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pH cycle

rojasdave

rojasdave

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hello i am 21 and decided i will do my first pH cycle. i have been doing alot of research and narrowed my results down to cyclo bolan and halotest25. while on both of these would i need a liver support of some kid, and an AI? or would i be safe just running them alone and then follow with PCT after? and for my PCT, would formadrol extreme be enough or should i shop around and try to get some nolvadex? thank you! btw, could i use either of these while cutting? im concerned about dropping bf and shrinking my midsection but i do want to gain lean muscle. thank you for the support
 
Id suggest the halodrol for your first time ph cycle. Not to harsh, not to mild just perfect IMO. For pct yes you will need nolvadex ran at 30/20/20/10 would be fine. support supps can be whatever you choose. but I always run fish oils at 4grams daily and hawthorne as well. After cycle and pre is when i load up the milk thistle.
 
rojasdave said:
where do you suggest to get this novx? and what does 40/30/20/10 mean? sorry, i am new to this
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Ummm,against the rules?:ntome:
 
Anyways,just use google,type in stuff like "researched chemicals".
 
Otc pct is fine for hdrol and run it for six weeks start first week at 50mg then week two to four 75mgs maybe in week five or six bump up to 100 mgs use something like cycle assist by cel and reversital vrs one for pct should be fine :-)
 
Gym4Life said:
Otc pct is fine for hdrol and run it for six weeks start first week at 50mg then week two to four 75mgs maybe in week five or six bump up to 100 mgs use something like cycle assist by cel and reversital vrs one for pct should be fine :-)
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Terrible advice saying OTC pct is fine for a Prohormone that can shut you down. thats just like saying drinking and driving is fine... You always should run a s.e.r.m following a ph cycle
 
ward5742 said:
Terrible advice saying OTC pct is fine for a Prohormone that can shut you down. thats just like saying drinking and driving is fine... You always should run a s.e.r.m following a ph cycle
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Dude my advice is not terrible thousands of logs show Otc pct is fine for hdrol its mild and wont **** you down and besides serms can be harmfull Aswell why you think primordial performance released their testosterone recovery stack serms are not for anyone and most online sources you can't trust God knows what your taking ....

Go look at hundreds of logs of people who have used hdrol without a serm end off fool
 
Gym4Life said:
Dude my advice is not terrible thousands of logs show Otc pct is fine for hdrol its mild and wont **** you down and besides serms can be harmfull Aswell why you think primordial performance released their testosterone recovery stack serms are not for anyone and most online sources you can't trust God knows what your taking ....

Go look at hundreds of logs of people who have used hdrol without a serm end off fool
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Thats just like saying smoking is fine and you wont get cancer cause millions of people do it and dont get cancer. So its ok to do cause everyone else did it,and was ok. Least have a knowledgeable answer for your theory, Do you have proof and blood work showing that everyone comes back fine ?, Why not be safe and spend an extra couple of bucks to make sure ?. Incorrect, Not everyone does come back fine, Use a s.e.r.m, Be safe OP.
 
ward5742 said:
Thats just like saying smoking is fine and you wont get cancer cause millions of people do it and dont get cancer. So its ok to do cause everyone else did it,and was ok. Least have a knowledgeable answer for your theory, Do you have proof and blood work showing that everyone comes back fine ?, Why not be safe and spend an extra couple of bucks to make sure ?. Incorrect, Not everyone does come back fine, Use a s.e.r.m, Be safe OP.
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Yes you are correct I guess I'm wrong I don't like serms and tend to stay away but I do aggree with what you say I would always have one on hand just to be safe.

However I still say Otc pct is usually still okay if you can't get a serm. Choice is yours.
 
rojasdave said:
where do you suggest to get this novx? and what does 40/30/20/10 mean? sorry, i am new to this
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You've done a lot of research but don't know what Nolva/SERM is? You need to read more, its really not that hard to google and read stickies/logs.
 
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