IS androlean good for more than cutting???

ctAL said:
hmmm, interesting.......but damn you dont see any change.......

what is your diet like??
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Honestly not really..My diet is good...I consume 2000-2200 cals with high prot low carbs and moderate fat and at times low fats as well. I eat the good fats and carbs and at the right time. So its def not my diet. My training is intense. I rest at times 1min-1min and 45sec. I just started doing more cardio. Treadmill 3-4times per week. I mean im not fat or anything im lean and all. Just thought i would see a difference with the AL. And if i do start seeing anything its going to be bcause of the cardio and me dropping fats and carbs. I dont want to bash it just yet but i can honestly say is not living up to its hype so far...
 
I wouldn't say that its normal to "feel" the thermogenic properties. Since your calories and carbs are probably lower than normal then you body temp will be slightly down and Androlean will just make it normal.

What you need to measure is your BF% before and after your cycle. The biggest difference people will see is if they do a starvation diet without androlean (or steroids) and then do a starvation diet with androlean. You will drop a significant more amount of BF and hold more muscle with the androlean in place. You have to have a reference in place to really judge the effectiveness.

-Eric
 
halfhuman said:
Honestly not really..My diet is good...I consume 2000-2200 cals with high prot low carbs and moderate fat and at times low fats as well. I eat the good fats and carbs and at the right time. So its def not my diet. My training is intense. I rest at times 1min-1min and 45sec. I just started doing more cardio. Treadmill 3-4times per week. I mean im not fat or anything im lean and all. Just thought i would see a difference with the AL. And if i do start seeing anything its going to be bcause of the cardio and me dropping fats and carbs. I dont want to bash it just yet but i can honestly say is not living up to its hype so far...
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Taking this info from Maxximal's thread: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-articles/136151-about-7-keto.html

Fat reduction and Energy (claims 1, 2 and 14): 7-keto-DHEA decreases the efficiency of energy production in the body — more fats have to be burned to produce the same amount of useable energy. This results in loss of fat (weight loss). If one runs low on fat then one would presumably experience a reduction in energy production. For fat loss, doses of 350 to 1400 mg/day are used.
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The dose in androlean is 102mg per day of 7-keto, due to the increased absorption (hence the disparity between the above recommended dosage and the dosage in androlean).

I quote this passage because it's important to see that not all the effects of a supplement are going to be drastic. You could take a ton of caffeine and be going bonkers off the wall sweating and have a higher temp/heart rate, but cortisol would also rise and it's also going to negatively affect the adrenal glands.
 
Primordial Perf said:
I wouldn't say that its normal to "feel" the thermogenic properties. Since your calories and carbs are probably lower than normal then you body temp will be slightly down and Androlean will just make it normal.

What you need to measure is your BF% before and after your cycle. The biggest difference people will see is if they do a starvation diet without androlean (or steroids) and then do a starvation diet with androlean. You will drop a significant more amount of BF and hold more muscle with the androlean in place. You have to have a reference in place to really judge the effectiveness.

-Eric
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Interesting, seems alot of guys are claiming they feel the thermo properties a bit, wonder if this is just the sweating being noticed.
 
Primordial Perf said:
I wouldn't say that its normal to "feel" the thermogenic properties. Since your calories and carbs are probably lower than normal then you body temp will be slightly down and Androlean will just make it normal.

What you need to measure is your BF% before and after your cycle. The biggest difference people will see is if they do a starvation diet without androlean (or steroids) and then do a starvation diet with androlean. You will drop a significant more amount of BF and hold more muscle with the androlean in place. You have to have a reference in place to really judge the effectiveness.

-Eric
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Thanx Eric. I measured my bf with a caliper not that precise but better than nothing. Ill keep and update of it.
 
BigBlackGuy said:
Taking this info from Maxximal's thread: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-articles/136151-about-7-keto.html



The dose in androlean is 102mg per day of 7-keto, due to the increased absorption (hence the disparity between the above recommended dosage and the dosage in androlean).

I quote this passage because it's important to see that not all the effects of a supplement are going to be drastic. You could take a ton of caffeine and be going bonkers off the wall sweating and have a higher temp/heart rate, but cortisol would also rise and it's also going to negatively affect the adrenal glands.
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Nice read and thanx for the breakdown. Now by u saying that about caffeine, u think is not a good idea to take it with AL? I dose 200mg of caffeine with my AL hour prior to workout.
 
halfhuman said:
Nice read and thanx for the breakdown. Now by u saying that about caffeine, u think is not a good idea to take it with AL? I dose 200mg of caffeine with my AL hour prior to workout.
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I am going to disagree on the caffeine effects. I am not sure the source used in that posts, but there is specifically a study directly stating there isn't a change in effect.

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HereToStudy said:
I am going to disagree on the caffeine effects. I am not sure the source used in that posts, but there is specifically a study directly stating there isn't a change in effect.

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Nicee! Ok seems fine to me after reading that study. Ill continue to do it that way than. Thanx bro
 
HereToStudy said:
I am going to disagree on the caffeine effects. I am not sure the source used in that posts, but there is specifically a study directly stating there isn't a change in effect.

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My bad, I was referring to the fact that taking caffeine is going to show pronounced effects, but they side effects, whereas 7-keto is a much more smooth and mentally stimulating effect.
 
would this cause a positive test in athletic events and would this be good for an endurance athlete looking to add strength but not weight or would andro hard be a better option ?
 
phil216 said:
would this cause a positive test in athletic events and would this be good for an endurance athlete looking to add strength but not weight or would andro hard be a better option ?
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If they are testing for AAS yes. AndroHard imo would be the better choice of the two.
 
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