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Got high test AND E2, help me pick a supp

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Hi all,

Background: 6’1 225 @~17-18%bf, 25 year-old male
No PH/steroid use for two years (did 3 PH cycles before that)

I’ve been on a very low carb diet (1 carb up meal per week) for the last 5 weeks. My diet has been around 250-300+ g protein and 150-200 fat, with LOTS of saturated fat from coconut oil and grass-fed beef and butter. I only lost about 7-8 lbs over the course of 5 weeks and 1” off the waist, which was a little disappointing (I'm assuming a lot of the lost weight was water). I've considered adding some kind of test booster/estro blocker so I wanted to get a baseline to see if whatever I ended up taking actually did anything. Here are the results (I ordered the "female hormone panel" from privateMD, ref ranges are for male, though)

Testosterone, serum 965ng/dL (H) (249-836)
LH 4.1 miu/mL (1.7-8.6)
FSH 2.9 miu/mL (1.5-12.4)
Estradiol 110.5 pg/mL (H) (7.6-42.6)

First, any ideas what the heck is going on with my hormones? If I have high E2, shouldn't it suppress the HPTA and drive testosterone down? Now I wish I added free test and SHBG, maybe DHT (I wish these were cheaper).

I suspect the high E2 isn't helping me cut bodyfat. I'm gonna keep dieting, but I want to add something in that will give me some help. I'm thinking either Erase of Triazole. Suggestions? I don't think I need to elevate my test necessarily, just normalize my hormones.

I guess being kinda fat could be increasing my estrogen levels. If I can get back down to about 10-12%, hopefully things will return to normal. The other thing is maybe my low carb diet is contributing to the weird hormones. Or, maybe it's just genetic and my hormones are always like this. This is the first time I've checked my hormones, so I guess a lot of things could be going on and I just really don't know what the cause is. In any case, I want some short term help to get my bodyfat down.

Any thoughts on what's going on with me and/or what supps might be helpful to correct this in the short term and help me lose weight would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
 
I would do Erase at 2-3 caps per day.

That is some amazingly high testosterone...lucky you.

If you are not experiencing any types of estrogen side effects, I would just keep on trucking. Estrogen is healthy for skin and bones.

But if you want to drop it down a little, go for 2-3 caps of Erase per day, 4-8 weeks
 
Thanks natty.

I tend to carry fat on the chest and gain bodyfat very easily. On the other hand, libido is always good and I make muscle and strength gains pretty easily. So I don't think the E2 is a serious problem, but I wanna be running optimal, not just ok, LOL.

I forgot to mention that I had my blood drawn around 11am instead of early morning (still fasted though). Apparently test is highest between 4 and 8 am. Not sure if/how this affects estrogen, but is it possible E2 is a bit higher than normal because there was some aromatization occurring later in the morning?

I'll probably pick up some Erase and post again in 4 weeks or so once I redo the bloods. Thanks again!
 
Thanks natty.

I tend to carry fat on the chest and gain bodyfat very easily. On the other hand, libido is always good and I make muscle and strength gains pretty easily. So I don't think the E2 is a serious problem, but I wanna be running optimal, not just ok, LOL.

I forgot to mention that I had my blood drawn around 11am instead of early morning (still fasted though). Apparently test is highest between 4 and 8 am. Not sure if/how this affects estrogen, but is it possible E2 is a bit higher than normal because there was some aromatization occurring later in the morning?

I'll probably pick up some Erase and post again in 4 weeks or so once I redo the bloods. Thanks again!

Yea both T and E are up to 40% higher in the 1st hour of waking compared to at the end of the day, according to my doctor (who is an endo).
 
if anything i think low carb diets should help with test since insulin sensitivity has a big effect on testosterone. trying munching on a lot of animal fat and stay away from sugars and grains and keep carbs under 100g/day. but you def wanna munch on fat and protein.

as for supps try erase or other popular AIs
 
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