Mdrol
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rayactr2k6
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iv been on methastadrol for almost two weeks at 20mg a day. one pill around 9-10am and the other around 5-7pm. I've heard around two weeks is when you start noticing effects. my size has gone up some, nothing ridiculous though. my weight has been about the same. As far as strength goes, my bench has gone up 10 lbs the past two weeks. I don't max out on squat and deadlift cuz i have a bad knee, but i have gone up considerably in the weight that i work out with. today was legs, i did squat and deadlift at weights that iv never worked out with before, and i felt comfortable doing so. with my knee, that says alot. I guess thats a good sign for methastadrol. I would like to see some more dramatic gains in size, but Im still a couple days before my two week mark, so maybe i just need to give it a little time. either way, im satisfied with the gains in strength so far.
Markusrulezzz
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Beastdrol
rayactr2k6
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does anyone know if upping my dosage to three a day would make any difference? or should i just save the extra pills for another cycle?
Hawk
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I haven't heard too much about Hard Rock Supplements.....
If you want MDrol you can find it (as others have pointed out)
If it's the price point that has you interested, then that's just a decision you have to make.....my opinion would be to stick with a proven company.
There are other SD clones that have reviews and have been around a while. Beastadrol for one
If you go with Methastradol let us know what you think.
ETA:
OP, do a seach on the nomenclature and see what you come up with....apparently there are more options that I thought, but my advice above still stands.
If you want MDrol you can find it (as others have pointed out)
If it's the price point that has you interested, then that's just a decision you have to make.....my opinion would be to stick with a proven company.
There are other SD clones that have reviews and have been around a while. Beastadrol for one
If you go with Methastradol let us know what you think.
ETA:
OP, do a seach on the nomenclature and see what you come up with....apparently there are more options that I thought, but my advice above still stands.
Hawk
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Adding an extra 10mg ed will definitely make a difference.
You said your satisfied....why push it? The decision is yours to make, but I wouldn't suggest more than 30mg.
rayactr2k6
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im satisfied with the strength gains, but im more interested in size and weight gains. Ive just gone thus far with 2 a day, and if i switch to three now ill have 20 left for another cycle, which i suppose i could stack with another ph. the only thing keeping me from adding another pill a day is that i dont want to waste that extra pill if it wont make a difference. if i do decide to add an extra, at what time should i take it? cuz i already have the two a day spread out fairly far, and iv heard if you take it b4 bed it can mess with your sleep quality
kanakafarian
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If it's size you're after, you have to eat for it. Upping the dosage won't make a difference if you're not eating enough cals.
rayactr2k6
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im eating 3000-5000 calories a day. I eat as much as i can stuff my face with. no sweets. just lots of protein, fat and carbs. straight bulking. the only time of day i havent been eating is before bedtime cuz i take zma. would it be better if i quit the zma and stuff my face before bed as well? maybe add a protein shake before bed?
kanakafarian
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3000 and 5000 cals is a huge difference my friend!! Sometimes just bumping your cals 500-1000 cals can be the difference in gaining size or staying the same. And yes, I would eat/drink something before bed. I personally take 2 scoops of Syntha6 with skim milk right before bed, feeding my muscles with 800+ cals and slow digesting protein for when I'm asleep.
rayactr2k6
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Im shooting for 5000, but some days I'm not able to eat as much as others. I'm going to start eating before bedtime, if i stick to my diet tracker and add that one extra meal i can get over 6000 a day. Should I take my last 10 mg of Methastadrol with that last meal then?
kanakafarian
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I personally would. I try to dose all my hormones evenly throughout the day just to have a steady stream in my body. So with my current run, I take it first thing in the morning, an hour before I workout, then right before bed.
rayactr2k6
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I would take mine an hour before i work out, but it says im supposed to take it with food and fatty acid supplements, and i don't want food in my stomach when i take my NO Xplode. so iv been taking one with my first meal of the day and one with my post-workout meal. Is this good or should I start doing one an hour before workout? I figured if im going for bulk then taking it with large amounts of food would be ideal.
kanakafarian
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I honestly don't think it really matters. Many will take it pre-workout but I dose it on timing. Most times one of my doses will fall before workout so that's good, but I think a steady stream of hormones in the body throughout the day is a much better way to go than say, dosing ALL at one time in the morning.
If you want to take pre-workout on an empty stomach, use fish and flax oil.
rayactr2k6
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awesome thanks for the advice. ill post on here again when i see more results
criticalbench
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Just buy CEL M-drol, still around.
Mike
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rayactr2k6
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according to the ingredient info its the exact same stuff
rochabp
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i know but i was looking info on the "quality" of the SD and not the ingredients.
Hawk
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I did a yahoo search on it and didn't come up with much. It seems Diabolic labs is no longer in biz as far as I can tell.....which does't directly effect the quality IMO. Let us know what you think, you can still find it for sale....
These aren't the same guys who now run Phantom labs are they?....(strictly speculation from far left field btw)
Good luck bro
rochabp
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yeah i guess this was the old SD, not exactly sure what that means but someone said it was good so i took there word for it which im sure wasnt the smartest thing to do but hey this is how we learn
rayactr2k6
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seeing more results with this methastadrol stuff. today was bench. max went up 5 lbs (275) from last weeks max (270). plus, after i maxed out, i did 5 sets of 5 with 225, something i havent been able to fully complete before. after that i was still able to continue a few sets of chest flys. weight and size remain about the same, but hopefully thatll change with this dosage and calorie increase
SGTgreen
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No, they are not the same guys.
The Rock Hard and Transform SD are the lowest priced. M-drol prices are creeping over $35 now.
rayactr2k6
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Does anyone have some good advice for PCT? I would like to keep as much gains as possible. Im going to take clomid. How long should I take it for? How long should I wait before going on another PH? Do I need to wait awhile after taking clomid before i get on another PH or can i take it right after im done with pct? Last time i took a PH i didn't do any PCT and it wasn't good lol so i think i should get as much info on it this time so i can keep my gains. if anyone knows much about this, i would appreciate some advice
Hawk
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That's going to depend on what your taking and how long.
I've only been back on this board for a couple months and I'm already turning into "one of those guys"......
Type in Clomid PCT in the search bar up top.
Read/skim over all the threads... you should find your answer there.
Personally, I would wait 4-5 months after PCT before I did another PH. In order to keep gains (in addition to a proper PCT) you will need to eat and train just like you were on cycle. The diet/nutrition is a HUGE part of keeping gains. You need to let your body/muscles adapt to thier new size.
There is a dedicated PCT forum as well.
Start your own threads.
Study up man, its fun.
Good luck.
That's going to depend on what your taking and how long.
I've only been back on this board for a couple months and I'm already turning into "one of those guys"......
Type in Clomid PCT in the search bar up top.
Read/skim over all the threads... you should find your answer there.
Personally, I would wait 4-5 months after PCT before I did another PH. In order to keep gains (in addition to a proper PCT) you will need to eat and train just like you were on cycle. The diet/nutrition is a HUGE part of keeping gains. You need to let your body/muscles adapt to thier new size.
There is a dedicated PCT forum as well.
Start your own threads.
Study up man, its fun.
Good luck.
middleageguy
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Read :
Unreal's Guide to Superdrol 139851-unreals-guide-superdrol.htm
Then Read :
Dr. D's guide, "How to Pulse Orals" 62121-how-pulse-orals.html
These will give you info on Superdrol (Methastadrol).
PCT Info and posbility of not needing PCT if using (Dr. D's guide, "How to Pulse Orals") but should keep SERM on hand.
(From Unreal's Guide to Superdrol )
(From Dr. D's guide, "How to Pulse Orals" )
You can still find M-DROL but they are fewer and fewer places that have it in stock and the price is getting Jacked up more and more as less of it is around.
There are currently 3 palces I have found Methastadrol for 19.95 to 20.95 that still have it in stock. But there are others who are selling the same Methastadrol for $50+.
If you want a Superdrol CLONE faily cheep I would say get it now.
I did for both M-DROL & Methastadrol. I think soon they will not be in stock anywhere.
I fould this info reading prohormonedb.com which has info on every PH & Superdrol(which I understand it really not a PH)
rayactr2k6
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Thanks guys this was very helpful
rayactr2k6
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so is it ok to pulse for PCT? I've been taking 30mg a day, so I would then switch to 40mg, 3x a week (MWF), after the end of my month long cycle, and continue as such for another month?
Bry17
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That's a mislabeling in the nomenclature. It should read 17b hydroxy. 17a hydroxy would make this much less active and not superdrol, because a 17a-OH group adds no androgenic or anabolic activity in an androstane backbone (superdrol); whereas a 17b-ol is hydrolyzed to the active almost immediately.
Bry17
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No, that is definitely not ok..:boggled:
middleageguy
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No that is not what I was trying to say, you can not "pulse for PCT".
Since you are already ON every day you will require a PCT of some kind.
The idea of doing say a pulse "3x a week (MWF)" for example 8 weeks is not to require a PCT at the end, but it is a good idea to have PCT products on hand just in case you need them, also the idea is that since it takes longer to build up your body gets use to having the extra mass and you will loose less after the pulse cycle.
I got everything ready for a full cycle, including SERM for PCT. Then I read about pulsing. I am about half way thru my first two month "3x a week pulse at 30mg" "I take 20mg prior to workout and 10mg after workout" and I am up about 9lbs and can see fat loss and increased every lift by about 30lbs excluding curls. I am taking it easy as I know when ON I can push more but don't want to hurt my self as I have read others have. When I am completed if I see signs I need PCT I do have a SERM on hand.
Don't want to ramble on, which I can do at times. Hope this helps.
You just read/skim (Dr. D's guide, "How to Pulse Orals" ) which will take you days and days and you will learn lots and lots. (Unreal's Guide to Superdrol ) is really great to read also.
rochabp
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rayactr2k6
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Ya pulsing sounds like it would be good. A couple guys said that it isn't for everyone cuz some ppl experience a "hormonal roller coaster", but the idea of keeping more gains sounds very appealing. I'm thinking I may try that for my next cycle. I'm just not sure how I would know if it made my hormones go wild. I guess it would just result in higher side effects like aggression? BTW Thanks for plugging those articles they were both really informative
middleageguy
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When you say “BTW Thanks for plugging those articles they were both really informative”. There is no way you could have read all the string of posts related to these yet, it took me weeks. But you could have read the starting posts and get an understanding. I would advise reading/skimming both of them as much as you can and see what others have experienced. It will really help you or anybody a great deal that are interested in pulsing.
If one is ON every day I would think the possibility of aggression would be more anyway, given that the hormones are high every day. I understand you body normally has ups and downs related to hormones naturally. That taking say M-DROL evenly spaced out every day getting hormones at a consistent level is really abnormal to the body. The body does not normally have a consistent level of hormones.
I have not experienced a "hormonal roller coaster". I look forward to my ON pulse days and do not feel abnormal on my OFF days.
Also one of the many benefits of pulsing is lessoning the possible side effects. Of which many/most I really have not experienced.
Now remember this is my first pulse, my first cycle.
But I am glad I did not do a STRAIGHT cycle now.
I feel that the pulse cycle is a much more relaxed approach. (At lease my 3x a week pulse)
I had all kinds of complex plans as when to take dosage at what time of day for a full cycle, needing to workout most everyday and consuming huge amounts of food sources every day.
But my 3x a week pulse has been a much more relaxed approach.
I make sure I eat something to get my blood sugar levels up prior to taking the M-DROL (I eat an orange and apple about 30 min prior to dosage). Take 20mg prior to workout then 10mg post workout, followed by consuming a protein shake and other food sources high in carbohydrates.
I do this because at first I experienced (Lethargy) for several hours. I bought DHEA 50mg & 5-HTP 10mg to attempt to combat this (Lethargy) and took them along with my M-DROL. It worked the Lethargy was gone. But there was a new side effect. Boy either the DHEA or 5-HTP gave me insomnia and I could not sleep. Then I started thinking I had a few days where I was not having Lethargy, what was different, then it hit me, I had not eaten enough prior to taking my M-DROL. I stopped taking the DHEA & 5-HTP and made sure I had eaten enough to have my blood sugar levels up prior to taking the M-DROL, after that no more Lethargy and no more insomnia.
Making gains is supposed to be enjoyable. So I would like the most enjoyable cycle possible.
But if doing a STRAIGHT cycle comes with side effects that are not pleasant, having to deal with complex plans as when to take dosage at what time of day to keep hormones at a consistent level, needing to workout most everyday and consume huge amounts of food sources every day. This does not sound enjoyable at least to me.
I am enjoying this more relaxed approach, my 3x a week pulse. Where on workout days I simply eaten enough to have my blood sugar levels up prior to taking the pre workout 20mg dosage of M-DROL. I workout in a manner that I push myself but do not go overboard and hurt myself(as I do feel like superman at the gym after taking my M-DROL). Come back home, take my post 10mg dosage of M-DROL. Followed by a protein shake and other food sources high in carbohydrates.
I am rambling on again, so I will stop.
BTW: I do measurements every month. Both my Biceps increased 1/2inch in size the first month and are rock solid now.(They were 15inch last measurement) The increases may be slower but they are there and impressive at least to me!!
rayactr2k6
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Ya I've been experiencing some lethargy since I upped my dosage to 30mg a day. its not messing with me too much, and my N.O. xplode helps wake me up a lot, but it would be nice to not have to worry about it. Do you know if Mdrol affects immune health at all? I think I may be getting a little sick, maybe its just allergies, but I've heard some other people complain about it on other forums. If so, do you know any way I can combat this? and if I need to go to the doc, do you know if antibiotics interfere with Mdrol or vice versa?
middleageguy
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“go balls to the wall”
When I was a kid, I use to rip off the governors off lawn mower engines and put them on my go-cart so I could push them full bore wind it up to the max “go balls to the wall”. After a while it would blow the engine and I would just get another old lawn mower engine and rip off the governor and do it again. Boy it was fun.
Now if I was 21 or even in to my mid 30’s still I would more than likely take your approach, “go balls to the wall” as I did with most everything including driving. I am not going to try to convince you not to drive 10-20 over the speed limit, not to fly thru yellow light intersections with your tail end in the middle when it turns red and the red light camera gives you a ticket or you get smacked in the side by another can and you end it all.
I drive a little slower now, the speed limit and I don’t fly thru yellow light intersections, I leave home earlier and am not rushing to get to places on time.
Nor am I going to try to convince you to pulse.
I myself do not want to “go balls to the wall” with my body, it may take longer to get the results, but I am getting the results, much faster than if I did not use the Superdrol. Even if I do end up needing a PCT of a shorter duration than if I did a STRAIGHT Cycle or end up needing a full out PCT. At least I am not pushing my body to the max during the pulse cycle. When one get older some of us do take into conversation our mortality.
middleageguy
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You know something was going around the office, several people missed work and my boss even missed more than a week. My daughter and myself took a walk outside and it was cold and windy. I ended up getting a bit of an earache and swollen glands and was wondering if it was the Superdrol. I did some research as apparently you have also. Saw others talking of possibly getting Superdrol flu, test flu, Sustanon Flu.
I don’t know. I got over it.
I’d say do some more research don’t know if antibiotics interfere with Superdrol.
(Rember M-drol, Methastadrol are Superdrol steroid) Look at prohormonedb.com to see all the products that have Superdrol in them and all the PH products that can be found.
I am just learning as you are, this is my first cycle.
Research is power, experience takes time, combine them to get the most.
swollen87
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i see you are trying to compare driving fast to taking steroids... they are very different
i see people pulse epi and sd all the time.... most of them end up with less gains, and the same bloodwork as someone who ran it straight through....
if u take superdrol today, its still gunna be in your system tomorrow....
rayactr2k6
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so what does one do at the end of a pulse cycle? Just stop after two months cold turkey?
rayactr2k6
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I'm almost done with my methastadrol cycle. I think this stuff is legit. I haven't ever done SD or Mdrol before, so I have nothing to compare this to. But as far as I'm concerned, this has been a great twenty bucks spent for gains. One thing that I'm a little confused about: I know you're supposed to take milk thistle with a methylated compound. But I believe it was Dr D's article on pulsing that mentioned milk thistle can take away the effectiveness of SD. A few days back I wasn't really feeling like my PH was doing anything anymore, so I decided to try taking milk thistle out of the equation for a couple days and I've been seeing gains ever since. I know this probably wouldn't be good to do for a full cycle, so does anyone know when the best time to take milk thistle would be (for a regular cycle) without it taking away the effectiveness of the ph?
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