Just found new (for me) study on Toremifene!

diablosho

Active member
This may be something everybody new about already, but I just stumbled across it, and thought it might be of interest to others on here!

Invalid Link Removed

"GTx's Toremifene 80 Mg Increased Bone Mineral Density in Multiple Clinically Relevant Subpopulations of Prostate Cancer Patients on Androgen Deprivation Therapy

Data from the Phase III clinical trial evaluating toremifene 80 mg for the prevention of bone fractures in men with prostate cancer on androgen deprivation therapy presented at 2009 Annual Meeting of the American Society of Clinical Oncology

ORLANDO, Fla.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jun 1, 2009 - GTx, Inc. (Nasdaq: GTXI) announced the presentation yesterday of data demonstrating that toremifene 80 mg treatment compared to placebo increased bone mineral density (BMD) in multiple clinically relevant subpopulations of men with prostate cancer on androgen deprivation therapy (ADT). The data, an analysis of results of the recent Phase III clinical trial evaluating toremifene 80 mg for the prevention of bone fractures and treatment of other estrogen deficiency side effects of androgen deprivation therapy in men with prostate cancer, were presented yesterday at the 2009 Annual Meeting of the American Society of Clinical Oncology.

Toremifene 80 mg treatment compared to placebo showed higher BMD at the spine and the hip in an analysis of specific subgroups defined by baseline characteristics such as time on ADT (above/below the median 2.3 years), age (above/below 70 years), baseline BMD (normal or low), prevalent fracture, country of origin (United States or Mexico), or use of calcium/vitamin D (Abstract # 5055: “The effect of toremifene citrate on BMD in men on ADT: A phase III clinical trial”).

“Estrogen is the principal hormone responsible for maintaining bone integrity, and loss of estrogen due to androgen deprivation therapy can lead to increased risk of fracture in men with prostate cancer,” said Daniel W. Lin, MD, Associate Professor and Chief of Urologic Oncology, Department of Urology, University of Washington School of Medicine, and a Principal Investigator in the study. “In the Phase III clinical trial, treatment with toremifene 80 mg, a selective estrogen receptor modulator, resulted in increased bone mineral density compared to placebo in men with prostate cancer on ADT and, most importantly, toremifene 80 mg treatment significantly reduced the risk of fracture.”

Additional data from the clinical trial presented yesterday at ASCO demonstrated that in a univariate analysis, age greater than 70 years and degree of bone loss are independent predictors of fracture risk in men with prostate cancer on androgen deprivation therapy (Abstract # 9517: “Use of age and BMD to predict fracture risk in men on androgen deprivation therapy”).

About the Study

The two year, double blind, placebo controlled, randomized study of 1,389 ADT patients was conducted at approximately 150 clinical sites in the United States and Mexico. The primary endpoint was new morphometric vertebral fractures measured by dual X-ray absorptiometry (DEXA). Key secondary endpoints included bone mineral density, lipid changes, hot flashes, and gynecomastia.

In the study, toremifene 80 mg treatment demonstrated statistically significant reductions compared to placebo in new morphometric vertebral fractures (the primary endpoint), in all nontraumatic fractures, and in first of either a nontraumatic fracture or greater than 7% bone loss. Toremifene 80 mg treatment compared to placebo also resulted in statistically significant increases in bone mineral density at the lumbar spine, hip, and femur; improvements in lipid profiles including a reduction in LDL, triglycerides and total cholesterol and an increase in HDL; and improvements in breast pain and tenderness.

Toremifene 80 mg was well tolerated. Among the most common adverse events that occurred in over 2 percent of study subjects were joint pain (treated 7.2 percent, placebo 11.5 percent), back pain (treated 5.9 percent, placebo 5.0 percent), dizziness (treated 5.9 percent, placebo 4.8 percent), and constipation (treated 4.2 percent, placebo 5.0 percent).

About ADT for Prostate Cancer

ADT, primary treatment for advanced prostate cancer, has improved survival in men with prostate cancer. Approximately 700,000 men with prostate cancer are being treated with ADT and an estimated 100,000 initiate ADT each year.

ADT is accomplished either surgically by removal of the testes, or more commonly by injection with LH releasing hormone (LHRH) agents. ADT works by reducing testosterone to castrate levels. The reduction in testosterone from ADT also results in very low estrogen levels, because estrogen is derived from testosterone in men. Estrogen deficiency side effects associated with ADT include high risk of skeletal fractures, adverse lipid changes, hot flashes, gynecomastia, depression, and memory loss.

Of patients on ADT, up to 77% develop significant bone loss, making them susceptible to fracture. Recent studies indicate that the annual risk of fracture in men on ADT is 5% to 8%. Fractures are serious and can reduce survival in men on ADT by more than three years."
 
I've always heard very good things about it, but it is really nice to finally see some studies as they pertain to men in a negative hormonal situation (the same situation as would be the case during PCT from steroids). And, it shows that 80mg provided for the results of the study. So now, we're even getting some good dosage information!

*EDIT* Apprently, 20mg doesn't perform very well: Invalid Link Removed

Shows that 20mg gives results not statistically significantly different compared to placebo (10.2% differene). but still seems to suggest that it may have shown an effect. I believe 80mg may be the "sweet spot".
 
I've always heard very good things about it, but it is really nice to finally see some studies as they pertain to men in a negative hormonal situation (the same situation as would be the case during PCT from steroids). And, it shows that 80mg provided for the results of the study. So now, we're even getting some good dosage information!

60 mgs of Torem is supposed to be equivalent to a 20 mg Nolva dose. It makes sense that 80 mgs would be pretty well tolerated.
 
Good share
Hey, thanks man! I really don't even know how I came about these studies, as I'm getting ready for school! LOL! When I'm LOOKING for these studies, I can never find them. But start brushing my teeth while checking my email, and all these things pop up! Very strange! :D
 
60 mgs of Torem is supposed to be equivalent to a 20 mg Nolva dose. It makes sense that 80 mgs would be pretty well tolerated.
I'm always hesitant to accept those numbers (60mg=20mg nolva) because I have yet to see a scientific study showing those results (may be heresay, I don't know). The great thing about this study is that is spans 2 years, with 1389 MEN with low test and low estrogen (just like us during pct-mostly). This study seems to have been designed for us!
 
I'm always hesitant to accept those numbers (60mg=20mg nolva) because I have yet to see a scientific study showing those results (may be heresay, I don't know). The great thing about this study is that is spans 2 years, with 1389 MEN with low test and low estrogen (just like us during pct-mostly). This study seems to have been designed for us!

I don't blame you haha. Do we know whether the 80 mg dosing was on an ED basis? I couldn't seem to find it. Well, I also skimmed the article cuz I am at work.
 
I don't blame you haha. Do we know whether the 80 mg dosing was on an ED basis? I couldn't seem to find it. Well, I also skimmed the article cuz I am at work.
Ya, I really couldn't find that info either. I think I need to find the actual research article, not their summary. May be more difficult than it sounds though, I really have NO idea where to look! LOL! I'll look after school.
--Brian
P.S.
I want to say it was probably ED, as I've heard Toremifene had a long half life, and twice per day dosages would be difficult to control in a study (but not impossible).
 
Ya, I really couldn't find that info either. I think I need to find the actual research article, not their summary. May be more difficult than it sounds though, I really have NO idea where to look! LOL! I'll look after school.
--Brian
P.S.
I want to say it was probably ED, as I've heard Toremifene had a long half life, and twice per day dosages would be difficult to control in a study (but not impossible).

Good point. Ok thanks again and keep us updated if you find that.
 
Good article, I use to dose something similar to 120/90/60/60 and then dropped to 90/90/60/60, however I find I have even better recovery at 60/60/30/30 when combined with DAA, resveratrol (SA), and fenugreek (phyto test). Although it appears that Torem is much better for you than Nolva or Clomid I still find it important to mitigate any exposure to a SERM.
 
Good article, I use to dose something similar to 120/90/60/60 and then dropped to 90/90/60/60, however I find I have even better recovery at 60/60/30/30 when combined with DAA, resveratrol (SA), and fenugreek (phyto test). Although it appears that Torem is much better for you than Nolva or Clomid I still find it important to mitigate any exposure to a SERM.
Very good point! That's why I found this article so interesting, since they were using lower dosages then commonly recommended around forums (80mg instead of 120mg/90mg for first 2 weeks). I am always a firm advocate for using JUST enough to be effective, while still being safest! I always try to never over do it, and never get greedy (with steroids anyways :D)! We need more research like this, so we can adjust our dosages as necessary for cost-benefit analyses. So far though, if I understand correctly, 20mg may be the lowest effective dosage, and 80mg may be the highest effective dose (or perhaps the sweet spot). Still looking for more research though, but it seems to me the most effective/safest way to utilize Toremifene may be to start at 80mg (or less), and titrate lower to perhaps 30 or 45mg. I wish there was a way to ask the researchers questions!
--Brian
 
Back
Top