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helladrol (h-drol) or p-mag?

massolic

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im deciding between pmag and helladrol...and heard that p-mag kicks in faster and better for bulk (with good diet) and how long can pmag or helladrol be run for?

pct will be CEL PCT assist and inhibite starting week 3-6 at 2-2-1-1
and NOLVA on hand!

CEL cycle assist 2 weeks prior cycle and throughout cycle!

O and goal is SIZE!
 
massolic said:
im deciding between pmag and helladrol...and heard that p-mag kicks in faster and better for bulk (with good diet) and how long can pmag or helladrol be run for?

pct will be CEL PCT assist and inhibite starting week 3-6 at 2-2-1-1
and NOLVA on hand!

CEL cycle assist 2 weeks prior cycle and throughout cycle!

O and goal is SIZE!
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Haven't done hdrol, and probably won't ever. I'm on week 3 of Halotest 25 (Promagnon) and I'm up 12 lbs. First week I was up 12, then lost 3, now back to 12. Strength isn't doing much, tho I do have more focus on the weights. All my weights are up 15 lbs so far, though I'm going a standard progression scheme. I could probably skip a week of the scheme and still pull off the lifts, tho I don't think I should skip because it may cause me to miss later.

Forgot dosing: 50/75/75/75/75 halotest liquid tamox (nolva) 20/20/10/10 + reversitol.
 
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Both are normally run 4-6wks. Beyond 6wks there is nothing but sides, no sure why the two compounds stop providing gains after 6wks. I personally like Halo a ton, only ran p mag once and it was stacked with P stanz so i dont have a clear way to judge its performance.

Id run halo 75/75/100/100/100/100, CA, fish oil, multi. PCT: PCT assist, inhibit E, Nolva and something for cortisol control around day 12-15.
 
I dont think if I used pmag of hdrol i'd be able to tell the difference.

if someone wanted to provide a 4 week cycle of each, i'd be happy to see if I did though. 0:D
 
Alright guys, I've decided on p-mag at 50 mg for four weeks as this is my "real" first PH/DS...
how's is this look?
two weeks before cycle: CEL cycle assist
week 1-4: p0mag @50mg along with cycle assist
weeks 5-8: CEL PCt assist
weeks 7-10: Inhibit E @2-2-1-1 along with lean xtreme
and NOLVA on hand!
 
drop the inhibit e, and instead use 6-bromo at 25-50mg e/d.

I dont like nolva, I prefer clomid. but, if you want to try to hold off on using your serm (which, 4 weeks @ 50mg, should be easy) then I'd def recomend buying a bottle of omega sports "t-force" to go with your pct assist.

Last I checked, nutra had a bogo special on t-force, dont know if it's still going, but if so, i'd jump on that.

50mg for 4 weeks is a very responsible first cycle, I commend you repped.
 
thanks jbryand101b...so my pct should be PCT assist and t-force start at the same time OR t-force start at week 3 of pct and continue for 4 weeks? and lean xtreme should start week 3 of pct rite? Btw i can get clomid before i start this cycle

Appreciate your support bro as im really excited and wanted to run PMAG for 4 weeks even though people say 6 weeks...
 
for your first cycle, 4 weeks is fine. you can go 6 on the next one if you want, and higher on the dosage.

I'd say to run the t-force starting on the first day of pct along with the pct assist. run it at atleast 1,000mg e/d.

yea, thats what people recomend with the lean extreme.

serms seem to be a person to person variation. some prefer clomid, some prefer nolva, some prefer torem.

i've only used nolva & clomid, out of those two, I like clomid.

but I have used 6-oxo, atd, formestane, and 6-bromo, I prefer 6-bromo for my otc a.i.
 
thanks man, also...i have a bottle of ERASE and do u know what dosage i should use and how to taper down? and is an AI cuz ive researched that an AI is needed along with a test booster for OTC pct
 
clomid @ 50mg e/d is fine.

an a.i. isn't needed during pct at all.

I dont know how you should dose erase, cause i've yet to use it. but, If you have it, i'd recomend using it or w/e ai you choose, on week 3 or 4 of pct.
 
massolic said:
how should i dose clomid for a 4 week cycle of pmag @50mg?
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SERM != AI Different things. Nolva 20/20/10/10 is supposed to be more than enough for pmag. I'm adding reversitol to the Nolva (liquid tamox in my case) on mine. I've taken creatine, fish oil, and pre-workout (lowered dose on the pre-w) through. Up almost 18lbs now.
 
drudixon said:
SERM != AI Different things. Nolva 20/20/10/10 is supposed to be more than enough for pmag. I'm adding reversitol to the Nolva (liquid tamox in my case) on mine. I've taken creatine, fish oil, and pre-workout (lowered dose on the pre-w) through. Up almost 18lbs now.
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I dont think you understand the conversation. go back, and read each post, then edit your post to look intelligent. :usa2:
 
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