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how many extra calories does clen/t3 burn approximately

redman24

redman24

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hi,
i was just wondering how much extra fat loss one can expect off of this combination. i have no idea or experience with this but someone i know needs some support with this and so i want to know what to expect.
please no comments about diet or training, i have more than sufficient knowleadge on these.
thank you for your input

regards
fabian
 
It raises your metabolism by 10%. Ephedra is 2-3%, DNP is 20%. No idea how t3 will effect that.

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thanks, i did mention i was aware of that. some people have terribly slow metabolisms though. when a 1200 calorie diet and at least 4 workouts per week is still only producing moderate results then it gets frustrating.
despite her being a woman, me on contrary am currently around 2500-2700 and have lost at least 5% bf in less than 3 weeks.

on another note, i heard similar figured to those posted, but realistically it seems to be much more? people on eca have much more significant results than a 2-3 percent increase in metabolic rate would produce from my experience.
is the 10% you posted for clen alone or clen/t3?

thanks for your help
fabian

edit: sorry, just saw you said you didnt know about t3
 
t3 is the thyroid hormone- i dont know the exacts but it jacks metabolism up as well
 
thanks schwelli, i do realize what t3 is. yet reports differ from "only useful for the last little bit" to "can sit on couch and eat junk all day and loose a pound a day" so i am really not sure how significant its effects are.
 
redman24 said:
thanks schwelli, i do realize what t3 is. yet reports differ from "only useful for the last little bit" to "can sit on couch and eat junk all day and loose a pound a day" so i am really not sure how significant its effects are.
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My guess here is that there are too many variables between individuals to make a blanket guess or statement about the amount of metabolic increase or more specifically, the fat loss increase. I think it is going to rely most on what your natural metabolism is coupled with the diet. But, then you have to factor in age, body type and composition, heart health, blood pressure, how any individual responds to that compound, how hard they train, what type of training, level of personal motivation to lose fat, etc etc etc.

I could be totally wrong of course.
 
sit on couch and eat junk all day and loose a lb of fat- that doesnt sound like t3 that sounds like DNP- but DNP the more carbs you eat- the more your body temperature will rise= and a side effect of dnp is death by over heating the body

DNP is something i wont touch


and thats saying something
 
My guess is clen + t3 is going to be less than DNP. If it was approaching 20% no one would use DNP. I thought t3 was mostly used by people who were also on test. I might be wrong about that but I thought it was catabolic
 
somehow i think dnp must be more than mentioned 20%. 20% after all is not that much.
as for t3 i think it can be catabolic but the person i am talking about is female and has just started training regularly so she is gaining strength and endurance rapidly and muscle loss is not a concern.
however, her total caloric expenditure can hardly be above 2000kcal per day, which is including at least 4 exercise sessions a week including weight training, hiit and random kind of sports like basketball or volleyball. its just terrible if you eat 1200 calories per day and maybe lose 7 pounds a month when you have 40 to lose.
total weight loss so far in 28 days is about 11 pounds (which is good) BUT most of that came in the first 10 days (about 6) and after that it has been slow and sometimes demotivating when the scale shows no decrease from last week. (of course considering measuring tolerances, possible muscle and glycogen gain etc. there is probably still progress)

now someone will say "hey, that great weight loss" but really at the current speed it will be another 3 months or so of near starvation, unless todays weigh in was influenced by whatever factors and tomorrow it turns out there is significant loss from last week.
 
what is your friends e.d.e.e.? have you calculated this? it'll give you an idea of what she's going through on a daily basis. (caloric wise)

(if you dont know how to calculate this with the appropriate calculations, dont bother, it'll be a waste of time)
 
i haven't done that if you ae referring to some kind of special calculations besides the common internet calculators.
however it seems to be hard to calculate peoples total caloric expenditure since bmr's are so different.
i have seen lean people at 10.000 calories per day and others seem to barely tolerate 2000 or more than 150 grams of carbs or whatever without blowing up into fatness.
people constantly say that this is a myth but i have witnessed what my roomate used to eat and he never made it above 12% bf. once his dinner was 4 cheese pizze with mayonnaise on top and 1,5 litres of icecream. 4000kcal. nice
 
2k1s said:
My guess is clen + t3 is going to be less than DNP. If it was approaching 20% no one would use DNP. I thought t3 was mostly used by people who were also on test. I might be wrong about that but I thought it was catabolic
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no your right. T3 will metabolize muscle mass too which is why people use it on anabolics


and test is too light(from what I have read) to keep t3 from metabolizing muscle

when im on test/tren a/anavar then i will be comfortable using t3
 
redman24 said:
i haven't done that if you ae referring to some kind of special calculations besides the common internet calculators.
however it seems to be hard to calculate peoples total caloric expenditure since bmr's are so different.
i have seen lean people at 10.000 calories per day and others seem to barely tolerate 2000 or more than 150 grams of carbs or whatever without blowing up into fatness.
people constantly say that this is a myth but i have witnessed what my roomate used to eat and he never made it above 12% bf. once his dinner was 4 cheese pizze with mayonnaise on top and 1,5 litres of icecream. 4000kcal. nice
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yes, I am talking about a set of special calculations to be made besides do it for you internet calculators.

basal metabolic rate is just one piece of four other seperate calculations that need to be made, with one set requiring the person making tha calculations to have the most updated m.e.t. listings. (this would be for the ppa).

a mans bmr calculations is different than a females, so one would also have to take this into consideration, as well as if the proper calculations are being used (formulas, and conversions).
 
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