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First Cycle, Anavar Only

Jimbo127

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Noob about to start an Anavar Only cycle, I'm 5'10" 155lbs. I have done quite a bit of research and decided on this product due to it's mild sides and it's feet first the first time reputation. Looking for lots of advice on PCT and etc. Not looking to put a ton of weight on just strength. Hope you vets would be interested in helping a rookie out.
 
You are 155lb at 5 foot 10. IMO you shouldn't even be considering roids.

Nail the 3 basics: train, eat and sleep and you should grow

How long you been training for? What bodyfat% are you?
 
adil said:
You are 155lb at 5 foot 10. IMO you shouldn't even be considering roids.

Nail the 3 basics: train, eat and sleep and you should grow

How long you been training for? What bodyfat% are you?
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Agreed... and how old are you?? I was 5'9 @ 190 before I started.. and I wish I would have waited til I reached 200+.
 
24 years old, 4% body fat. Am already quite accomplished at the basics. I have extremely high metabo and can't get much bigger than 168 lbs. Have plateau right at that 168 lb. mark unless I eat like ****. Reason for the cycle is to actually put on about 10 pounds and get stronger. Gonna start the cycle next saturday. Not trying to impress anyone just want to do this for my own benefits.

Anavar Only 4 tbs x 10mg ED, for 7 weeks and one day. I want to be as safe as possible while on this so need some advice on pct. I have read mixed opinions about this so, I wanted to wait and get some advice for my exact case. Also should I lift for strictly power while on the Anavar or workout the way I normally do? Thanks again.
 
Ok well you want strength then why wouldn't you lift for power?
Also, for your own benifits? I know you mean as personally but a steroid can also have many drawbacks, i.e. not knowing correct post cycle therapy. I know about anavar a bit but yes,i wont say anythign till the good guys chime in.
Also, the is a PCT section.

EDIT: im in the same boat by the way, just looking for strength gains.Just opened a thread bout an hour ago.
 
Jimbo127 said:
That's why i'm asking. thanks
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? i think you fail ot se my point. The way to increase strength is lifting for it....
Size...lifting for it.
Reps is what it depends on. Intensity. Diet. So find a program that impies strength increases, and techinically you are just supplementing to that program buy adding a PH. Kind fo get what im saying?
I kind of have Tripdogs trainging method, intense and somewhat controlled chaos. I am personal training education program and know the basic to be able to "wing it" I find when i do it like this i have better results than following some routine i found.
 
We'll let's put it this way if you can't eat enough food to get yourself growing naturally then your not going to be able to do it assisted, you need even more food while on cycle. That being said if you still wanna go ahead with it i'd do 50mg for 8 weeks, i'd say you''ll get maybe 5lbs or so but that will be a rock hard 5lbs, and strength should go up. If you traiing for strength and your metabolism is crazy fast try eating like this:

60% carbs 20% protein 20% fat, with your metabolism you could handle that many carbs, i ate like that when training straight powerlifting and it makes your strength skyrocket, after all carbs fuel your workout.
 
You definately don't want to jump into roids without having a pct plan, and anavar is usually used to stack with an injectable, not a first time cycle but do what you want.
 
Jimbo127 said:
Good info thanks. I am just gonna eat all day, Gonna try and pack on 10 lbs of muscle(optimistic).
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Well i would say adjust the diet AT LEAST one week prior to how you're goin to be "on" so you know you can handle eating. I eat alot of carbs now but do not have fast metabo but lift like a mofo knowing i can make it all worth it. I usually have 2-3 servings(1/2-1cup) oats a day and 2 whole wheat bagels. Not past 8-9 though, usually its protein and veggies then. ITs all about timing and portions. Being "on" should/will make you more hungry especially if youre lifting harder, longer and more intense. Just be ready to eat eat eat is what im gettin at. Shakes are nice but i would bet ALOT they wont fill you up for more than 30-40 minutes. I threw away PostWO shakes awhile ago. Love it.

Good Luck and keep us updated.
 
MentalTwitch said:
Well i would say adjust the diet AT LEAST one week prior to how you're goin to be "on" so you know you can handle eating.
Good Luck and keep us updated.
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i don't think that's a good idea. if you suddenly jack up an extra 1000 calories without any anabolics utilising them you are just gonna put on fat. in fact the first few oral cycles i did, from the first day of the cycle i added like an extra 1000 calories and ended up putting on a 4-5 lbs of fat in the first week before the cycle started to kick in and that calories were actually being utilised.. much better plan to slowly add a few hundred a day in the first week to ease into it
 
Personally I suggest any beginners first AAS cycle should be a test alone supplement, specifically because your searching for an AAS that'll give you dramatic weight gain and strength gains, these are not really benefits associated with anavar. Test alone cycles can be bulking or cutting cycles IT ALL DEPENDS ON DIET AND TRAINING, but I suggest test alone for beginners because the most readily available information is provided for test supplementation and it's best to see how your body reacts to AAS before using more complicated supps. Try Test E at 400mg/wk for 8wks before using var. I realize your 170lbs but I know users who have relatively the same stature and have had success using AAS without undermining their natural growth.
 
not to knock ya..but 4 percent body fat? ya need a little bit of fat on ya to help ya make the hormones you need to grow. good fats that is. i dont like to doubt people, but 4 percent body fat is bodybuilder competition low. how did you measure it?
 
Jimbo127 said:
Noob about to start an Anavar Only cycle, I'm 5'10" 155lbs. I have done quite a bit of research and decided on this product due to it's mild sides and it's feet first the first time reputation. Looking for lots of advice on PCT and etc. Not looking to put a ton of weight on just strength. Hope you vets would be interested in helping a rookie out.
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Uhh, from the looks of this post, you havent done any research. 5'10 155lbs your a twig? First of all i dont care what anyone says, anavar doesnt put as much strength on as much as people OVER-EXAGGERATE it. ESPECIALLY AT 40mg a DAY like your saying.

Your not ready for a cycle at all, saying you have done research i suppose to know anavar only will shut your sex drive down, and with var you need quite a bit of it to add anything (More than 40mg). Most people use var for a finish up on a cutting cycle to get that extra crisp look.

You need to run test for a first cycle and you wont add a "ton" of mass if you keep your calories low.

Jesus christ why are people so illiterate to sh*t these days? Most of this is common sense.

Var alone is a complete waste of $ and time. Also you say you cant get bigger than 168 unless you eat like ****? So eat like ****, bulking isnt pretty. But thin people need to EAT ALOT OF CALORIES.


laserbluess said:
not to knock ya..but 4 percent body fat? ya need a little bit of fat on ya to help ya make the hormones you need to grow. good fats that is. i dont like to doubt people, but 4 percent body fat is bodybuilder competition low. how did you measure it?
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Dont listen to stupid sh*t like that, u know how many people i hear say they are 4-6% BF and have chub on their stomach with love handles?
 
HAVE YOU HEARD OF CREATINE?

Eat eat eat. Eat clean and you will grow. even at 168lb there is lots to grow.
 
Lol this is the second time this has Been bumped In the 3 years since it started.

I lol at the 4% BF!!!! So funny since some natural pros don't get to 4% and he would only be 2 lbs away from not being able to get an errection. (you can't get one at 3% for the record, however just eating normal brings you up a couple % in days).
 
Run it. Fix ur diet etc etc, but run it if u please. Its very mild plus it will break you in on aas.
 
ZamaMan said:
Lol this is the second time this has Been bumped In the 3 years since it started.

I lol at the 4% BF!!!! So funny since some natural pros don't get to 4% and he would only be 2 lbs away from not being able to get an errection. (you can't get one at 3% for the record, however just eating normal brings you up a couple % in days).
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Really odd, cos I know alot of guy's at 5% and have no issues!
 
Jasen said:
Run it. Fix ur diet etc etc, but run it if u please. Its very mild plus it will break you in on aas.
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This, tired of everyone being nasayers.

For ****s sakes its var, and probably not even that, maybe epi or halo.


If an dying Aids victim can take it why cant this guy?
 
lyfespan said:
This, tired of everyone being nasayers.

For ****s sakes its var, and probably not even that, maybe epi or halo.


If an dying Aids victim can take it why cant this guy?
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Dying AIDS victims take it for health issues, this guy wants to take it for anabolic issues. And when it all comes down to it, hes shutting his natural HPTA down for pretty much nothing. Hes not going to get what he thinks he will off of just var only.

Why shut yourself down and gain 1-2lbs and maybe 15-20lbs on the bench?

^^ That can be done naturally. Whatever the kid is expecting from VAR, can be done naturally just as good if not better.

Var is a over-hyped up anabolic, and it doesnt really do much for you unless the doses are very high and that gets very expensive.
 
KBD said:
Dying AIDS victims take it for health issues, this guy wants to take it for anabolic issues. And when it all comes down to it, hes shutting his natural HPTA down for pretty much nothing. Hes not going to get what he thinks he will off of just var only.

Why shut yourself down and gain 1-2lbs and maybe 15-20lbs on the bench?

^^ That can be done naturally. Whatever the kid is expecting from VAR, can be done naturally just as good if not better.

Var is a over-hyped up anabolic, and it doesnt really do much for you unless the doses are very high and that gets very expensive.
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You gotta let them learn, I personally would only run var on the end of a test cycle.

Hows the depression going ? they give ya sum ideas here for help?
 
lyfespan said:
You gotta let them learn, I personally would only run var on the end of a test cycle.

Hows the depression going ? they give ya sum ideas here for help?
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Yes running it at the end of a test cycle to add those finishing touches would be smart.

As far as the depression i am doing very well. I upped the dose of toco-8 to 2 scoops a day and ive been using Nizoral every other day and my hairloss has stopped. I went fron losing 10-12 hairs in the shower to like 1-3 (Which im assuming is normal, my gf loses a ****load of hair in the shower lol) and my hairline is sprouting all these new hairs so im really happy, it just sucks because i want to cycle with test but now im scared, so right now im running NPP, going to have to get some Cialis or suck it up and shoot some test..
 
KBD said:
Yes running it at the end of a test cycle to add those finishing touches would be smart.

As far as the depression i am doing very well. I upped the dose of toco-8 to 2 scoops a day and ive been using Nizoral every other day and my hairloss has stopped. I went fron losing 10-12 hairs in the shower to like 1-3 (Which im assuming is normal, my gf loses a ****load of hair in the shower lol) and my hairline is sprouting all these new hairs so im really happy, it just sucks because i want to cycle with test but now im scared, so right now im running NPP, going to have to get some Cialis or suck it up and shoot some test..
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Wait what, no test with that NPP? I always shed on PHs, i have been on 500 of test cyp for 4 wks now and no shedding. plus after my PH cycles my hairline always filled back in and if i shave it with a a3/8 i notice it growing quicker.
 
AdelV said:
Really odd, cos I know alot of guy's at 5% and have no issues!
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5% is hard on your body but as low as possible to maintain if you do it right. 3% your body freaks out since it thinks your dying. It is suppossed to be insane to be 3% with almost no water, which I believe is the only way to measure 3%. I think Lyle mcdonald had an article about it.
 
ZamaMan said:
5% is hard on your body but as low as possible to maintain if you do it right. 3% your body freaks out since it thinks your dying. It is suppossed to be insane to be 3% with almost no water, which I believe is the only way to measure 3%. I think Lyle mcdonald had an article about it.
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this!^ i remmeber a conov in class back in college, human body can sustain under 4% on for a samll period of time, 99% of the time ppl dont even reach 4%. when u hear ppl BS about walkin around 4%, it's impossible the body hold so little fat and water that it is nearly impossible to even live a norm. therefore i LOL everytime someone even says they are 5%. :spank:


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Jasen said:
this!^ i remmeber a conov in class back in college, human body can sustain under 4% on for a samll period of time, 99% of the time ppl dont even reach 4%. when u hear ppl BS about walkin around 4%, it's impossible the body hold so little fat and water that it is nearly impossible to even live a norm. therefore i LOL everytime someone even says they are 5%. :spank:


:goodpost:
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Yeah people dont realize how low 5% actually is.
 
The oxandrolone is effective even at lower doses. It is also prescribed by doctors in people who have problems gaining weight, and especially those who are underweight.

This link is an example of how the oxandrolone is now used by doctors:

thebody.com/Forums/AIDS/Lipodystrophy/Archive/Anabolic/Q155653.html
 
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