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5 mg mdrol and pct assist ED?

sworn420

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hi im 21 y/o, about 185 lbs i dont know my bf but i am pretty lean, and i want to try my first ph. i like the sound of a short mini cycle so i am thinking of taling 5 mg of mdrol and 2 caps of pct assist ( trans reversatrol and forskolin, correct me if im wrong though) for up to 3 weeks. i have torem on hand but i really dont feel like using unless i really need to for gyno or symptoms of shutdown. for pct i was thinking i could just continue the pct assist for a few weeks after, what do you guys think? with regard to shutdown, etc... thanks!
 
sworn420 said:
hi im 21 y/o
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I didn't bother reading any further than this.

Learn nutrition and you'll be amazed at what that'll do. You have no reason to be screwing around with anything hormonal right now.

(not trying to be a d!ck by saying this, either - simply trying to do you a lot of help, though it won't seem like it until a few years down the road when you look back on this.)
 
im 22 just after new years... i have a clean diet and i have been working out for a while to get to 5'9" 185 with low bf and i am very well researched... i feel i am am more than ready to take 5 mg of mdrol... if anyone would like to respond to the context of my OP please feel free to give any input

oh and id be taking the half a cap of sd and half serving of pct right when i wake up in the morning, forgot to mention
 
5mg SD won't do too much. If you want to run a cycle, then run a full cycle with correct minimal dosages. Also, PCT assist is not meant to be taken on cycle. I don't understand why you want to do this. Knowing this, I don't see how proper research was done.
 
pct assist is a test base... and there are 12 page threads about people getting results fr 5mg sd. given this and the fact that i have never taken a ph prior i feel i might
reapond well... if i dont make any gains after 2 weeks (only 7 caps) i might bump it to 10mg
 
Well if you are keen on doing this, you could probably run something like 5/5/10/10 maybe. But even then I would use a SERM during PCT.

PCT Assist is not a test base. It is a natural test booster. There is nothing in it that converts to test. The only true "test base" is Test itself. If you want to use a OTC test base though, trying getting some transdermal DHEA. DHEA is an OTC compound that converts to test in the body (but at very low rates and at a 2 step process) Transdermal DHEA absorbs a little better therefore more of it is converted.
 
ah interesting i didnt know that. so would a natty test booster be at all useful in minimizing suppression? and my friend gave me an opened but unused bottle of 4-ad UTT by AMS that i read is not 4ad and is rather just a dhea. would this be a better test base than a natty?

thanks for the response by the way
 
if you arent sure about 4ad utt heres a quote from another post in this forum:

"..4-ad from ams is already a 4-dhea. it converts into 4-androstenedione, and then into test."

anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/148247-4-ad-demacrine.html

ive read elsewhere that its dhea as well
 
Yes, I have heard that 4ad-utt is good to use as a "test base" as well. You may need 2 or so bottles of it though.

Test boosters do nothing to minimize shutdown symptoms. Save that for during PCT (make sure you get a SERM).
 
i have torem on hand but id rather save it for my "real" cycle next year. i feel taking 4ad utt with my sd and maybe pct assist and continuing 4ad after(?) will let me recover without the serm. but its on my desk just incase
 
Don't use the 4ad-utt or any DHEA during PCT. Remember DHEA is not a test booster, it's basically external test you are supplying to your body. The point of PCT is to kickstart your natural production of test again. Therefore using something like DHEA during PCT would counteract this.

Use the 4ad Utt on cycle only, and use PCT assist and low dose Torem for PCT. You have the right compounds, you just need to order them correctly.
 
ah okay i see your logic. thanks alot for your input that definitely helped straighten things out for me. one question then: how does a dhea test best not lead to more suppression? dont people who inject test still get shut down and have to pct?
 
Yes, even with just test you still have to PCT. You won't really get "shutdown" per say from DHEA, it will just make it harder for you body to bounce back during PCT if you use it during then.
 
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