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Geraldo Rivera changes mind on 911 Truth

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"Geraldo Rivera surrenders his attitude against AE911Truth and BuildingWhat on building 7
BuildingWhat campaign is discussed on Geraldo Nov 13 2010.
His guests are Bob McIllvaine and Tony Szamboti
Geraldo Rivera who for so long has vocally opposed 911Truth has changed his mind."

 
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Also.....there is new footage being leaked out thats been held by the government....

9/11 Firemen Testimony - Multiple Huge Explosions

Firefighters being interviews on the street barely escaping collapse of WTC 1 or 2 (not sure but most likely 1) claiming while their were in the lobby there was a secondary, and also a 3rd explosion right before collapse.

 
AE14 said:
Care to summarize the vids for those who can't see them.
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Edited ^^^^^ hope you all can get a chance to look at them though.

Im not here to convince everybody, you all have to decide yourselves but this is just some things out of many that just dont make sense.

Many of the victims families want to re-open an investigation, so lets all at least support them.
 
Newer shocking building 7 video......Watch how the entire penthouse on roof of building collapses right before entire building collapses, and also note explosion at the 11th second.

 
lol at people thinking out govt could actually pull off such an undertaking and even more amazingly keep someone from leaking info about it. :lol:
lol at the idea that our govt perpetrated 9/11 as a justification to attack Afghanistan and/or Iraq. :lol:
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ax1 said:
Quote:
"Geraldo Rivera surrenders his attitude against AE911Truth and BuildingWhat on building 7
BuildingWhat campaign is discussed on Geraldo Nov 13 2010.
His guests are Bob McIllvaine and Tony Szamboti
Geraldo Rivera who for so long has vocally opposed 911Truth has changed his mind."

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i have always thought that there was more than meets the eye concerning 911. but the question that has bothered me is why?

theoretically speaking, what possible gain could people in the gov get from this?

i also always believed there was more to oklahoma city than we were told.
 
thebigt said:
i have always thought that there was more than meets the eye concerning 911. but the question that has bothered me is why?

theoretically speaking, what possible gain could people in the gov get from this?

i also always believed there was more to oklahoma city than we were told.
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Our govt had nothing to gain by perpetrating 9/11. Oklahoma City? A possible Muslim connection? Many witnesses say they saw McVeigh with a middle eastern man prior to the bombing.
 
BUCKNUTS said:
lol at people thinking out govt could actually pull off such an undertaking and even more amazingly keep someone from leaking info about it. :lol:
lol at the idea that our govt perpetrated 9/11 as a justification to attack Afghanistan and/or Iraq. :lol:
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And what about them not finding any bodies at "flight 93" crash sight???
Or pentagon "flight" crash sight??

What about the black boxes that they deny finding, yet sit in a warehouse locked up??

Can you explain that?
 
JCunningham said:
And what about them not finding any bodies at "flight 93" crash sight???
Or pentagon "flight" crash sight??

What about the black boxes that they deny finding, yet sit in a warehouse locked up??

Can you explain that?
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Oh yeah I forgot about that one. Didn't flight 93 land in Cleveland? :lol:
 
"Flight 93"


Honestly, if you still think it was Mohamed the terrorist crashing planes all across the US 9/11/01, you are one ignorant fool.. You are the reason the govt has a lot of power it shouldnt be allowed to have..
 
BUCKNUTS said:
Our govt had nothing to gain by perpetrating 9/11. Oklahoma City? A possible Muslim connection? Many witnesses say they saw McVeigh with a middle eastern man prior to the bombing.
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it seems that once mcveigh and nichols were caught the investigation ended. the middle eastern man said to have been seen with mcveigh was reported to be a top man in saddams security organization. also it seemed mcveigh was more interested in his sisters safety than his own life-could it be she was leverage for his silence?


all the press seemed interested in was sensationalizing the fact that so many kids were involved. i agree, that was a big thing. but imo there may have a huge story there that went untouched.
 
BUCKNUTS said:
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Ok, nice try, its easy to blow it off by turning your head like that, but get me a pic of the plane on the ground. It shouldnt evaporate.

Also.....they made phone calls to their families on the planes, in the middle of nowhere back in 2001?
 
So BUCKNUTS


here is more about secondary explosions to back up the firefighters in my second post, if you cared to even listen to what they are saying

So please, explain these videos instead of blowing it off. Get us some evidence, I would love to be convinced that I am wrong.



 
JCunningham said:
"Flight 93"


Honestly, if you still think it was Mohamed the terrorist crashing planes all across the US 9/11/01, you are one ignorant fool.. You are the reason the govt has a lot of power it shouldnt be allowed to have..
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ax1 said:
Ok, nice try, its easy to blow it off by turning your head like that, but get me a pic of the plane on the ground. It shouldnt evaporate.

Also.....they made phone calls to their families on the planes, in the middle of nowhere back in 2001?
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C'mon guys there were numerous eye witnesses who saw the plane crashing and most of the plane was recovered including the flight recorder. There were body parts discovered over a 60-70 acre area.
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BUCKNUTS said:
C'mon guys there were numerous eye witnesses who saw the plane crashing and most of the plane was recovered including the flight recorder. There were body parts discovered over a 60-70 acre area.
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They show a couple of pieces of scrap metal, lol

Where is the plane on the ground? The video is a government nut job.

And where is the black box?
 
BUCKNUTS said:
C'mon guys there were numerous eye witnesses who saw the plane crashing and most of the plane was recovered including the flight recorder. There were body parts discovered over a 60-70 acre area.
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There was also an eye witness, older women, who said the flying object passed over her car. She said it was about the size of her car. A 747 is huge, about a hundred cars put together ROFL..

I have seen video footage of plane crashes. There are heads, bodies, guts, body parts, blood, fire plane parts everywhere..
 
ax1 said:
They show a couple of pieces of scrap metal, lol

Where is the plane on the ground? The video is a government nut job.

And where is the black box?
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the fire from towers 1@2 that cumbled #7 also destroyed the blackbox. government experts say it was very hot and the heat could have spread up to 2000 miles if conditions were right.
 
thebigt said:
the fire from towers 1@2 that cumbled #7 also destroyed the blackbox. government experts say it was very hot and the heat could have spread up to 2000 miles if conditions were right.
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Wrong.. Black boxes were found.. They are locked up.

Black boxes have also been found in worst occasions..
 
thebigt said:
the fire from towers 1@2 that cumbled #7 also destroyed the blackbox. government experts say it was very hot and the heat could have spread up to 2000 miles if conditions were right.
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lol....they found the passport of one of the hijackers, untouched on top of all the rubble, they found bone fragments of the victims, but they couldnt find any black boxes...well......

this ground zero rescue worker did find the black box

 
ax1 said:
the UFO prediction that came true in NYC?

weird, lol
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According to the NORAD officer who predicted it, he said that the UFOs are only going to hover for a few hours and not land as people may panic in the current state we are in. He said they will make contact in the year 2015. He said that the aliens know we are destroying our atmosphere with carbon at an accelerated rate which would cause our own demise. So they are going to attempt to help us, and are easing our acceptance of them before they make contact with public. Do I believe it? Not sure, but it is interesting, especially since he predicted Oct 13 right.. Now I wait for 2015..
 
JCunningham said:
According to the NORAD officer who predicted it, he said that the UFOs are only going to hover for a few hours and not land as people may panic in the current state we are in. He said they will make contact in the year 2015. He said that the aliens know we are destroying our atmosphere with carbon at an accelerated rate which would cause our own demise. So they are going to attempt to help us, and are easing our acceptance of them before they make contact with public. Do I believe it? Not sure, but it is interesting, especially since he predicted Oct 13 right.. Now I wait for 2015..
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I know the story....they said they "may come 2015" it wasnt definitive such as the october 13th date.

Its really wierd, not sure to trust him yet. You know we have the tech to make holograms of UFO's and stuff to stage that.

Dont know, but Ive seen UFO's myself and its not something to ignore.

Check out my other thread

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GOD-I hope aliens really do plan to help us. i really don't like the direction our world leaders are going.


i am old enough to remember the 60's and all the civil unrest that took place, i believe the gov learned their lessons. this will not happen again, if the people show signs of rebellion i firmly believe they have plans to squash it before it grows. i see things getting very bad!!!!
 
:why: Hey have fun guys I'm out... oh don't forget about the black choppers and planes and the vapor trails.

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My brother in law was at the flight 93 crash sight within 20 minutes of impact and there was smoke and debris everywhere. He was offroading and came in behind the police line. Needless to say, he was escorted out of there quickly. Also is there any chance that combustable materials and natural gas could possibly be causes of secondary explosions?
 
mmowry said:
Also is there any chance that combustable materials and natural gas could possibly be causes of secondary explosions?
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not in this case......

this is just a few more stories





 
Explosions before planes hit WTC 911



This guy is another witness inside the building

"an explosion so hard it pulled us upwards"

"20 years in the building and you know something that comes from the bottom, and something comes from the top"

"2 events, 2 different times," in reference to the first explosion and then the plane hitting after-wards.

 
I'm most interested in Flight 93. I really want to know what happened. My GF is a flight attendant, and at training (granted this was 2007) she was told that if her plane poses a threat to national security that it will surely be shot down by NORAD.

She came to the conclusion, after seeing multiple pictures of Flight 93 crash, that it was in fact shot down. Everything was obliterated, including bodies, yet they found flight manuals, a Quran, a passport and a few other things totally intact. A "crash" sounds out of the question, but then again who knows?

Additionally, she said that cell phones don't work above 10k feet. I don't know if that's accurate, I'm just taking her word for it, but some of these people were supposedly talking to loved ones on their cell phones. Another ???? I guess.

I'm open to anything on this. I don't put things like this past our govt.

Same with the Pentagon crash.

If this was an inside job, I highly doubt high-profile figures (Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, etc.) would have had any idea.
 
Irish Cannon said:
Additionally, she said that cell phones don't work above 10k feet. I don't know if that's accurate, I'm just taking her word for it, but some of these people were supposedly talking to loved ones on their cell phones. Another ???? I guess.
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not only that, but we are talking 2001 technology here, and over PA over woods, lol, i remember i hated cell phones those days. had to drive across town to make a phone call.

many forgot already how new our good precious cell phone service is.
 
Irish Cannon said:
she was told that if her plane poses a threat to national security that it will surely be shot down by NORAD.
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Just to add....**** Cheney appointed himself control of NORAD the morning of 9/11 before the planes hit.

Also, he had NORAD running simulated terrorist strike on the WTC site that morning.

The pilots were very confused when they actually heard the WTC was in fact struck.
 
ax1 said:
Just to add....**** Cheney appointed himself control of NORAD the morning of 9/11 before the planes hit.

Also, he had NORAD running simulated terrorist strike on the WTC site that morning.

The pilots were very confused when they actually heard the WTC was in fact struck.
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Do you have proof of this? Was this normal? Was this the first time?
 
Irish Cannon said:
Do you have proof of this? Was this normal? Was this the first time?
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There is proof.
He had all the fighter jets removed from the area...
Someone did at least.


And no, flight 93 was not shot down.. There was no flight 93..
And no cell phones dont work that high.. I have tried every time ROFL...
 
If the US government was powerful enough to pull this off, wouldn't it be able to pull these conspiracy videos off of youtube as well?
 
I dont know if I believe all of it. However, the more that comes out, the more it is apparent that there is a lot more to the story than we have been told. In very similar fashion to other events in history.

I think at the end of the day, a higher up like Bush probably had no idea. However, he, like Obana, are nothing more than puppets at this point. They are the front men, who have advisors that seem to truly make all the necessary or unnecessary decisions.

I will say, that 2 good buddies of mine worked down there (one in building 7). They both insist in the plane story. I cannot believe the hologram stuff. If that was the case, where are the people on the real flights?
 
AE14 said:
I will say, that 2 good buddies of mine worked down there (one in building 7). They both insist in the plane story. I cannot believe the hologram stuff. If that was the case, where are the people on the real flights?
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I think its safe to say most don't doubt that planes hit the buildings.

The discussion is over what brought the buildings down. Was it the fire from the jet fuel or a demolition job? Certainly a lot of videos in this thread talking about explosions are suggesting it was a demolition job.
 
ntornado said:
I think its safe to say most don't doubt that planes hit the buildings.

The discussion is over what brought the buildings down. Was it the fire from the jet fuel or a demolition job? Certainly a lot of videos in this thread talking about explosions are suggesting it was a demolition job.
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funny enough, there are many out there that dont believe the planes hit the buildings. They believe that the government used hologram technology.
 
JCunningham said:
There was also an eye witness, older women, who said the flying object passed over her car. She said it was about the size of her car. A 747 is huge, about a hundred cars put together ROFL..

I have seen video footage of plane crashes. There are heads, bodies, guts, body parts, blood, fire plane parts everywhere..
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BULL****... I have cleaned up terrorist bombings, helo crashes etc... you have a gross misrepresentation of a scene and your disgusting portrayal of what you believe is an insult.

You know damn well eye witness accounts are about as useful as pockets on a jock strap.

For ****s sake, you see something on youtube and all of a sudden you are an expert. I have watched people disintegrate into a fine mist with nothing left behind, i have seen Helos turn into a small pile of rubble, but since you seen video evidence...
 
Chops89 said:
If the US government was powerful enough to pull this off, wouldn't it be able to pull these conspiracy videos off of youtube as well?
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You would think so... i mean a black ops mission of this scale, and they cant silence a few?

Truthers are like politicians, they want to make the evidence dance in a way only their theories work. It happens every day. You can make something say whatever you want it to say if you have the know how. PopularMechanics washed the theories awhile ago. The funny thing is that, Terrorist have won in a sense with all this... considering the fact that now people are striking internally instead of keeping their focus on the real perpetrators, how did they lose?
 
AE14 said:
I will say, that 2 good buddies of mine worked down there (one in building 7). They both insist in the plane story. I cannot believe the hologram stuff. If that was the case, where are the people on the real flights?
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The hologram stuff (that i talked about) had to do with the UFO's, that went off topic. Nothing to do with this.

I believe in the plane story to, the 9/11 truth isnt denying the buildings were hit by planes.

Its the the way the buildings fell, especially building 7 that is the important question here.
 
DAdams91982 said:
You would think so... i mean a black ops mission of this scale, and they cant silence a few?

Truthers are like politicians, they want to make the evidence dance in a way only their theories work. It happens every day. You can make something say whatever you want it to say if you have the know how. PopularMechanics washed the theories awhile ago. The funny thing is that, Terrorist have won in a sense with all this... considering the fact that now people are striking internally instead of keeping their focus on the real perpetrators, how did they lose?
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Many of the Truthers are victims of 9/11 including rescue workers who saw what happened, They just want a real investigation from an independent body.

We arent going by theory here, you have to listen to the witnesses (such as the ones i posted) and find out why building 7 fell.

Did you watch the video's of the firemen stating there were multiple explosions in the lobby for example?
 
DAdams91982 said:
Structure magazine:
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The building was pulverized and fell freefall in 2.5 seconds,

There are over 1,200 engineers that are openly questioning the collapse and linking it to a controlled demolition.
 
ax1 said:
Many of the Truthers are victims of 9/11 including rescue workers who saw what happened, They just want a real investigation from an independent body.

We arent going by theory here, you have to listen to the witnesses (such as the ones i posted) and find out why building 7 fell.

Did you watch the video's of the firemen stating there were multiple explosions in the lobby for example?
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I have watched those before and have seen plenty of information showing that to be a falsity.

Also, your idea that because they had family in the building makes them any more of an expert is ominous at best.

Building 7 was only 400feet away from the WTC which were 1300feet tall, and known that as the building peeled, the damage was well within that radius.

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