The new and improved 'Official' Aust/NZ Customs and Your Supps List

Craigmatthew said:
what brand did he order?
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IBE.... apparently they're not making their epi any more. A sad day indeed...

Rosie Chee Scott said:
You've JUST started training. Seriously, bud, FORGET about hormonals. Get the BASICS of NUTRITION AND TRAINING sorted, and stick to using the basic staples for at LEAST the next 18-24 months. Do things right and you'll get good results. Hormonals are NOT magic pills that will hulk you up or strip you lean, and results are certainly not made withOUT a lot of consistency and effort on YOUR part. If you want to use hormonals, then wait (I recommend maximizing your NATURAL potential FIRST, and being at least 26-27 years old before using hormonals, but that's just me) and in that time do ALL the RESEARCH you can on different hormonals, how to run cycles, PCTs, the risks, ins and outs, etc. If you do anything otherwise, it's being foolish.

~Rosie~
The Primordial Woman
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^^^
+1

I'm not one to say "you have to be at your genetic max potential" to take steroids, not all of us want to be monsters, but you do need a basic foundation to build on. 5 months is not a solid foundation.

Diet first, consistent training and plenty of sleep will see a 20 year old size up. If you feel you have to take something, there's plenty of natty test boosters out there.

And on that note - Diesel Test is back in stock!!
 
Mick81 said:
Epi seems to be getting through a bit lately, even had a mate ship in 12 bottles in 3 packages (heard it was being discontinued, loves his epi)..... not one package siezed, all checked.
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holy dooley!
Epi i got was also from IBE
Tempted to order again now with the dollar rocking :knockedout:

enlightened said:
Yes this is normal with USPS.Because they are government workers!
If you want the product quicker and updated regularly use Fed Ex next time!

Once it took my products two weeks to arrive and with little updates.
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yeah my orders are also slow to update, one order got updated after it got delivered. didn't know wtf happened to it (usps)

AHH how i miss DTH
 
Rosie Chee Scott said:
You've JUST started training. Seriously, bud, FORGET about hormonals. Get the BASICS of NUTRITION AND TRAINING sorted, and stick to using the basic staples for at LEAST the next 18-24 months. Do things right and you'll get good results. Hormonals are NOT magic pills that will hulk you up or strip you lean, and results are certainly not made withOUT a lot of consistency and effort on YOUR part. If you want to use hormonals, then wait (I recommend maximizing your NATURAL potential FIRST, and being at least 26-27 years old before using hormonals, but that's just me) and in that time do ALL the RESEARCH you can on different hormonals, how to run cycles, PCTs, the risks, ins and outs, etc. If you do anything otherwise, it's being foolish.

~Rosie~
The Primordial Woman
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ok bro thanks i will listen to ya its just hard knowing you can get big fast im training with my cuzin we bin at the gym the same time now and he using m drol his on his 2nd week and gained gd 3 pounds of musle but he dnt eat right he stays up all night nd he aint gone the gym in a week soo realy he usin it for 1 week his strenge went up realy high its crazy i could left more then him now his leftin way more then me he started pissing blood tho and i said its becuz he aint eating right sleepin right or even working out me

i eat 4 biolded eggs in the ,mornin with 2 scoops of ,muscle fuel anabolic follwed with oats then after id eat maybye tunna fish then go gym for abouut a hour or more then cum bk have 3 scoops of anabolic then ea pasta or sumfink of the sort then chicken later n jus go threw out the day like that then b4 bed 1 scoop of muscle fuel but with milk tu slower it tre the night

im very in 2 this im 165bls i want to be 175bls by sumer with pure muscle u think can do it?
 
gich said:
holy dooley!
yeah my orders are also slow to update, one order got updated after it got delivered. didn't know wtf happened to it (usps)

AHH how i miss DTH
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check your packages with packagetrackr.com - best tracking site i've found, pretty up to date

Yeah, I had withdrawals from lack of DTH, so i'm stocking up just in case!!

oxtroyxo said:
ok bro thanks i will listen to ya its just hard knowing you can get big fast im training with my cuzin we bin at the gym the same time now and he using m drol his on his 2nd week and gained gd 3 pounds of musle but he dnt eat right he stays up all night nd he aint gone the gym in a week soo realy he usin it for 1 week his strenge went up realy high its crazy i could left more then him now his leftin way more then me he started pissing blood tho and i said its becuz he aint eating right sleepin right or even working out me

i eat 4 biolded eggs in the ,mornin with 2 scoops of ,muscle fuel anabolic follwed with oats then after id eat maybye tunna fish then go gym for abouut a hour or more then cum bk have 3 scoops of anabolic then ea pasta or sumfink of the sort then chicken later n jus go threw out the day like that then b4 bed 1 scoop of muscle fuel but with milk tu slower it tre the night

im very in 2 this im 165bls i want to be 175bls by sumer with pure muscle u think can do it?
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God, it hurt my brain to translate that....

1. Tell your "cuzin" to get to a doctor, he's going to need help if he's got blood in his urine. Most likely not drinking enough water, and no support supplements with one of the harshest prohormones available. Could have done some serious damage.

2.Not sure where you are in the world, but seeing this is a Australian/ New Zealand thread, I'll say "no, you can't be 175lbs pure muscle by our summer". If your in the US, yeah, it's possible to be 175lbs, but a lot harder to be ripped at the same time.

Best advice I can give you is; hang out on these boards, read up in the nutrition and training sections, use the search function and stay away from AAS/DS for a while.
 
oxtroyxo said:
ok bro thanks i will listen to ya its just hard knowing you can get big fast im training with my cuzin we bin at the gym the same time now and he using m drol his on his 2nd week and gained gd 3 pounds of musle but he dnt eat right he stays up all night nd he aint gone the gym in a week soo realy he usin it for 1 week his strenge went up realy high its crazy i could left more then him now his leftin way more then me he started pissing blood tho and i said its becuz he aint eating right sleepin right or even working out me

i eat 4 biolded eggs in the ,mornin with 2 scoops of ,muscle fuel anabolic follwed with oats then after id eat maybye tunna fish then go gym for abouut a hour or more then cum bk have 3 scoops of anabolic then ea pasta or sumfink of the sort then chicken later n jus go threw out the day like that then b4 bed 1 scoop of muscle fuel but with milk tu slower it tre the night

im very in 2 this im 165bls i want to be 175bls by sumer with pure muscle u think can do it?
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First, I am not a "bro" - if it's not obvious enough with my username, it certainly is with my signature.

Second, you need to learn to write properly - your spelling and grammar are terrible.

Third, fast results does not mean that it is good or that those results will be maintained. Trust me, your cousin will lose pretty much any gains he makes once he stops his cycle, because he's not even doing the basics right, and sounds like he expects hormonals to be a "magic pill" to get him "swole". If he's excreting blood, then I recommend that he STOPS his cycle - it has nothing to do with him staying up or night or not having his nutrition or training right.

Gaining 10lb of MUSCLE mass is NOT realistic by summer in either Australia or New Zealand, no. You can easily gain 10lb of SCALE WEIGHT - but scale weight is irrelevant.

If you want to gain mass, then I recommend that you read these Invalid Link Removed articles - they contain information on Invalid Link Removed, Invalid Link Removed, and Invalid Link Removed. Invalid Link Removed covers specifics of training for nutrition.

Seriously, even look around here on the forums for information on gaining muscle - it is plentiful enough.

Ultimately, I recommend that you get a professional trainer who knows what they're doing to design you a nutrition plan and training programme specific to your goals and needs.

~Rosie~
The Primordial Woman
 
ihi

lol sorry i did'nt no you was a girl and im in the uk im irish tho don't get it twisted lol and yes i know my spelling aint right because im text talking i don't know why you got to be moody with me i said ima listen to you i aint a fool i may be young i may be a newb but every1 is when they start i was just on the phone to a guy that works for this site its a companny and he a professional and he said that a very mild ph wil be ok he said EPI will be ok il have no side maybye just feel sleepy he said take a liver support with it and a pct called ANABOLIC DESIGNS and il be ok i said are you sure i do not want to die and he laffed and said theres 1 out of a billon chance of me getting bitch tits so he seems very confident so its hard for ppl like me starting off because you just never know
 
oxtroyxo said:
lol sorry i did'nt no you was a girl and im in the uk im irish tho don't get it twisted lol and yes i know my spelling aint right because im text talking i don't know why you got to be moody with me i said ima listen to you i aint a fool i may be young i may be a newb but every1 is when they start i was just on the phone to a guy that works for this site its a companny and he a professional and he said that a very mild ph wil be ok he said EPI will be ok il have no side maybye just feel sleepy he said take a liver support with it and a pct called ANABOLIC DESIGNS and il be ok i said are you sure i do not want to die and he laffed and said theres 1 out of a billon chance of me getting bitch tits so he seems very confident so its hard for ppl like me starting off because you just never know
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You're in the UK posting the Australia/New Zealand Customs thread - go figure.

Yes, everyone starts somewhere (and most not in the right place), but it's better to start out right that not.

It's not called being moody - it's called stating the hard, cold truth, whether you want to hear it or not.

If you listen to that guy it makes you very foolish. He doesn't care who you are, about your health or safety, your knowledge, nothing - if he did, he wouldn't be so stupid as to recommend such products to a newbie (and yes, believe it or not, some supplement company reps DO look out for the best interests of an individual - he is just not one of them). It's the ignorant and inexperienced who are the media stereotype that cause issues for the rest of those who actually DO know what they're doing.

But, you will do what you will do, and if you will not listen to those that are actually trying to steer you in the RIGHT direction, then that is your prerogative. I have nothing more to say here, since every bit of common sense is going right through you.

~Rosie~
The Primordial Woman
 
Rosie Chee Scott said:
You're in the UK posting the Australia/New Zealand Customs thread - go figure.

Yes, everyone starts somewhere (and most not in the right place), but it's better to start out right that not.

It's not called being moody - it's called stating the hard, cold truth, whether you want to hear it or not.

If you listen to that guy it makes you very foolish. He doesn't care who you are, about your health or safety, your knowledge, nothing - if he did, he wouldn't be so stupid as to recommend such products to a newbie (and yes, believe it or not, some supplement company reps DO look out for the best interests of an individual - he is just not one of them). It's the ignorant and inexperienced who are the media stereotype that cause issues for the rest of those who actually Do know what they're doing.

But, you will do what you will do, and if you will not listen to those that are actually trying to steer you in the RIGHT direction, then that is your prerogative. I have nothing more to say here, since every bit of common sense is going right through you.

~Rosie~
The Primordial Woman
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wow ok cold hard truth is what i want to hear or i wouldnt be on here your soo up tight whats the worst that can happin not being biased or nothing but your a girl so you wouldnt know as much because you having took nothing look if your going to be so dam right rude i dont want to hear it please thanks
 
oxtroyxo said:
wow ok cold hard truth is what i want to hear or i wouldnt be on here your soo up tight whats the worst that can happin not being biased or nothing but your a girl so you wouldnt know as much because you having took nothing look if your going to be so dam right rude i dont want to hear it please thanks
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1. Rosie knows a f**kload more than most people about this, and is a well respected rep on this site, so this ^^ is way out of line....

2. You're an idiot. You just want us to tell you everything will be fine if you take the shortcut. You'll probably do it anyway, even though everyone tells you it's a bad idea. You might come out okay, or you might end up with bitch tits and on TRT at 25.

I, for one, am done with you.....

:cheers:
 
oxtroyxo said:
wow ok cold hard truth is what i want to hear or i wouldnt be on here your soo up tight whats the worst that can happin not being biased or nothing but your a girl so you wouldnt know as much because you having took nothing look if your going to be so dam right rude i dont want to hear it please thanks
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Mate you are getting good advice to stay away from these products. The rep is just after a sale. At the end of the day I don't care to make judgments use what you will and suffer the consequences whatever they are just don't go in with your eyes shut everybody here just wants to help out and advise you as best we can in our own style.

Next bit of advice research the crap out of cycle support products and post cycle products and protocols decide what ph you are going to run then post the whole cycle up (pre, during and post) for advice and listen to it. You will then be able to go about doing something dangerous as safely as possible reducing the risks to your immediate and long term health as much is possible.

Mick TRT is not that bad, it only costs me $3 a week + monthly Dr appointments for the rest of my life work out how much a good natty t-booster costs a week ... ha ha I hope my sarcasm is apparent!
 
aj power said:
Mate you are getting good advice to stay away from these products. The rep is just after a sale. At the end of the day I don't care to make judgments use what you will and suffer the consequences whatever they are just don't go in with your eyes shut everybody here just wants to help out and advise you as best we can in our own style.

Next bit of advice research the crap out of cycle support products and post cycle products and protocols decide what ph you are going to run then post the whole cycle up (pre, during and post) for advice and listen to it. You will then be able to go about doing something dangerous as safely as possible reducing the risks to your immediate and long term health as much is possible.

Mick TRT is not that bad, it only costs me $3 a week + monthly Dr appointments for the rest of my life work out how much a good natty t-booster costs a week ... ha ha I hope my sarcasm is apparent!
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Hey AJ which doctor do you see?Just kidding.
Do you run PCT?
 
aj power said:
Nope no pct. If you run a cycle at the end you just return to your synthetic base levels. You do need to keep nova or something like that on hand in case your boobies start to grow.
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So you get to be on all the time? and no PCT? Sounds awesome to me...

:twak:
 
Mick81 said:
So you get to be on all the time? and no PCT? Sounds awesome to me...

:twak:
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You have to remember that your levels are still kept in the normal range so you are really just normal all the time.

The better end of the normal range tho :) :) :) although that does have some down sides ...
 
aj power said:
You have to remember that your levels are still kept in the normal range so you are really just normal all the time.

The better end of the normal range tho :) :) :) although that does have some down sides ...
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I have been on Sustanon 250 cycles too.Just because you are on testosterone does not mean your LH is not shutting down and your balls won't shrink after the cycle!Bad for fertility also.
Stop your testosterone cycle and i bet you are even more shut down.
Nolva and Clomid are not just for gyno.

Dcotors and endocrinologists in this country have no idea.
Some guys on Anabolic Minds also run Nolva or Clomid during their cycles to stop the shrinkage from getting worse,also with HCG but not available in this country.
 
enlightened said:
I have been on Sustanon 250 cycles too.Just because you are on testosterone does not mean your LH is not shutting down and your balls won't shrink after the cycle!Bad for fertility also.
Stop your testosterone cycle and i bet you are even more shut down.
Nolva and Clomid are not just for gyno.

Dcotors and endocrinologists in this country have no idea.
Some guys on Anabolic Minds also run Nolva or Clomid during their cycles to stop the shrinkage from getting worse,also with HCG but not available in this country.
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HcG = pregnyl. Readily available in Australia. Hell, my doc wont give me gears, but he'll give me pregnyl.

I go for regular check ups, he knows what Im doing, doesnt agree with my decisions but at leasts helps monitor my health.

Gears! :)
 
enlightened said:
I have been on Sustanon 250 cycles too.Just because you are on testosterone does not mean your LH is not shutting down and your balls won't shrink after the cycle!Bad for fertility also.
Stop your testosterone cycle and i bet you are even more shut down.
Nolva and Clomid are not just for gyno.

Dcotors and endocrinologists in this country have no idea.
Some guys on Anabolic Minds also run Nolva or Clomid during their cycles to stop the shrinkage from getting worse,also with HCG but not available in this country.
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My LH was all but completely shut down thats the point of TRT your shut down for some reason(s). So far I have been lucky with my balls IMO The novo is if you 'supplement' what your dr gives you normal TRT will not give you boobs.

My T and E is perfect with 100mgs a week I don't need to take anything else ... sometimes the standard formula does work and the Dr's get it right! To many people think more is better its not always ... although I do like more ha ha

I have considered Clomid as an experiment to see if I feel my T rising but I am just happy with things atm I generally feel as good and perform as well as I did when I was in my early 20's, muscle growth is better than it has been but not supper ... joints are feeling better ... injections suck, sust is a roller coaster the new reandron is nicer (so far)... if I had my time again I would not have put myself in this situation tho.

Ha ha we have diverged from imports haven't we.
 
Guys by far best advice ever!
Guys i wish people who criticize steriods and such could see the last page... Not so she could get in trouble but so that image of us being some kind of Drug dealers could go away.. Honestly i trained for 3 year and then took some PH's, took a few cycles and you can see, recently i haven't had anything at all, and don't think i'll be trying anything anytime soon...

I don't post a lot recently but i do read this thread daily! and it's good to know that we are more then just Androgen-Infused people, who recommend everything to anybody left and right!
 
Nolva is here, BOH!

Now, just to get over this ****ty hand sprain or whatever it is i got Monday doing nothing. Touching wood its nothing serious.
 
Rosie Chee Scott said:
First, I am not a "bro" - if it's not obvious enough with my username, it certainly is with my signature.

Second, you need to learn to write properly - your spelling and grammar are terrible.

Third, fast results does not mean that it is good or that those results will be maintained. Trust me, your cousin will lose pretty much any gains he makes once he stops his cycle, because he's not even doing the basics right, and sounds like he expects hormonals to be a "magic pill" to get him "swole". If he's excreting blood, then I recommend that he STOPS his cycle - it has nothing to do with him staying up or night or not having his nutrition or training right.

Gaining 10lb of MUSCLE mass is NOT realistic by summer in either Australia or New Zealand, no. You can easily gain 10lb of SCALE WEIGHT - but scale weight is irrelevant.

If you want to gain mass, then I recommend that you read these Invalid Link Removed articles - they contain information on Invalid Link Removed, Invalid Link Removed, and Invalid Link Removed. Invalid Link Removed covers specifics of training for nutrition.

Seriously, even look around here on the forums for information on gaining muscle - it is plentiful enough.

Ultimately, I recommend that you get a professional trainer who knows what they're doing to design you a nutrition plan and training programme specific to your goals and needs.

~Rosie~
The Primordial Woman
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LOVE your work :P
 
Akula said:
Guys by far best advice ever!
Guys i wish people who criticize steriods and such could see the last page... Not so she could get in trouble but so that image of us being some kind of Drug dealers could go away.. Honestly i trained for 3 year and then took some PH's, took a few cycles and you can see, recently i haven't had anything at all, and don't think i'll be trying anything anytime soon...

I don't post a lot recently but i do read this thread daily! and it's good to know that we are more then just Androgen-Infused people, who recommend everything to anybody left and right!
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You mean we're not all juiced up meatheads? But the media says if I do steroids, I must kill children and small animals!!:cussing:

And the media is NEVER wrong!

Jokes aside, this is one board that does seem to give a sh*t.... call it "duty of care" if you will.

Big ups to all of you!!:240:
 
Guys...
On a side note....
My friend in real life has ordered M-Drol let's see if it makes it, i'm really curious..
 
Anyone got Presurge Unleashed into Oz? Looks ok to me (no expert though). If anyone has any thoughts on the chances of this getting through customs please let me know.

Note: I normally do all my supplement shopping through this site but am getting some Fatgripz from somewhere else and am looking for something worthwhile to get while I am paying for shipping anyway.

Cheers for any help
 
Ordered:
Adam By: NOW Foods
Animal Flex By: Universal Nutrition
D-Aspartic Acid (DAA) (100 grams) By: NutraPlanet
Arrived not inspected.

I thought more people would be ordering with our dollar going so good. To bad shipping has gone up so much over the last year or two.
 
aj power said:
Ordered:
Adam By: NOW Foods
Animal Flex By: Universal Nutrition
D-Aspartic Acid (DAA) (100 grams) By: NutraPlanet
Arrived not inspected.

I thought more people would be ordering with our dollar going so good. To bad shipping has gone up so much over the last year or two.
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At least you received your products.I ordered from NP on monday last week and my products still have'nt arrived.I ordered:
Two testforce 2
ZMA
Axcite
EAA
2 Penetrate So there!
 
aj power said:
I ordered on Friday 5/11/10 - express so it only took 6 days ... not bad hey!
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I ordered express also but they sent it by regular instead!

Im calling tonight to inform them that the packer stuffed up and that i paid extra for nothing.

AJ Power did you use fed ex?
 
enlightened said:
I ordered express also but they sent it by regular instead!

Im calling tonight to inform them that the packer stuffed up and that i paid extra for nothing.

AJ Power did you use fed ex?
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Shipping Method:
United States Postal Service - Express Mail International

6 days including a weekend is better than I normally get.
 
Guys,
I think of restarting this thread, that way i can modify/add to it, as intended.
Could i hear some feedback?
 
Akula said:
Guys,
I think of restarting this thread, that way i can modify/add to it, as intended.
Could i hear some feedback?
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Long time over due ... we just need somebody that is fairdinkum running it that knows about the B.S the hawkers give to make extra sales.

You up for the job?
 
aj power said:
Long time over due ... we just need somebody that is fairdinkum running it that knows about the B.S the hawkers give to make extra sales.

You up for the job?
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Yeah i think i am...
I'm going to compile the last 40 pages, but basically going to copy/paste the first few pages with modifications...
I actually got a few things i want to add, as well as change the way things are done here, i just hope i don't cop the ban hammer like CUB and jakellpet, which were both amazing contributers to the forum....
 
Hi guys I saw this new product in Nutraplanet call AMS Pro Anabolic Kit, just wanting to know if this will make it through customs, maybe silly question.
Looks like a good stack!
 
magicmayhem said:
Hi guys I saw this new product in Nutraplanet call AMS Pro Anabolic Kit, just wanting to know if this will make it through customs, maybe silly question.
Looks like a good stack!
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yeah it will probably make it, just make sure to order that, and nothing else, small orders have a higher success rate... Just make sure you ain't getting ripped off mate, all these companies they talk a lot of s**t but you might be better of just getting some M-Drol cheaper and might be better then again haven't taken that stuff so i wouldn't know.
 
Akula said:
yeah it will probably make it, just make sure to order that, and nothing else, small orders have a higher success rate... Just make sure you ain't getting ripped off mate, all these companies they talk a lot of s**t but you might be better of just getting some M-Drol cheaper and might be better then again haven't taken that stuff so i wouldn't know.
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I have tried 4-AD and when i got my testosterone blood tests back it was still low.
The 1-AD is good though!
 
Just ordered:

LG GHenerate
LG I-GH1
PP Formestane
Natty Test Stack (Get Diesel Pro Cycle and D-Aspartic Acid)
LG SLIN
CEL Stano-Drol
Purus Recycle
Reversitol Regulator V2
DS Activate Xtreme
SNS Caffeine
SNS Picamilon 50

Let's see what makes it!
 
Hi Guys,

Since starting TRT I have been left with a few products that I simply don't need anymore. I have some popular natty T-Boosters as well as some pretty good over the counter PCT products, as well as other random stuff. I don't want to list it in the for sale section as I wont post it outside of Australia but if anybody is interested send me a PM. Its all stuff that I could probably list on feebay ... I mean ebay, and was original purchased from Nutraplanet or in one case a board sponsor direct!
 
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