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LG Sub Ecdysterone Product - PreOrder Only 275 Bottles!

metroba said:
I highly recommend you guys read this!
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That was a good read. However, I do have a question regarding this portion of the writing:

It's interesting to note the amount of Ecdysterone these Soviet Studies used. According to Derek Cornelius, "Most of the experiments used 5 mg per kilogram of body mass per day as the dosage." To find out how much you would need to take to supply this same amount of ecdysterone, use this equation:


MG/KG X Your Weight = Dosage:

In Kilograms:
5 mg X 78 kg = 386

In Pounds:
5 mg X 170lbs / 2.2lbs = 386

So, the average person should consume 300-600 mg of ecdysterone per day to meet this dosage.
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The label of Sub Sterone displays the following:

Supplement Facts
Serving Size: 6 Sprays
Servings Per Container: 120
Ecdysterone Complex: 69mg
HydroxyPropyl Beta Cyclodextrin
20-Hydroxy-Beta-Ecdysterone by HPLC 80%
Ecdysterone PolyAcetate
6-Keto Diosgenin
Chlorogenic Acid (From Green Coffee Bean)
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So, in order to ingest 5 mg per kg of bodyweight, it looks like I would have to use between 6 and 7 servings of Sub Sterone per day. Is this necessary, or am I missing something?

I'm currently using four servings of this daily. I have four bottles, so upping the dose isn't a problem if it carries the potential to elicit stronger effects.
 
simmons said:
That was a good read. However, I do have a question regarding this portion of the writing:



The label of Sub Sterone displays the following:



So, in order to ingest 5 mg per kg of bodyweight, it looks like I would have to use between 6 and 7 servings of Sub Sterone per day. Is this necessary, or am I missing something?

I'm currently using four servings of this daily. I have four bottles, so upping the dose isn't a problem if it carries the potential to elicit stronger effects.
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I think thats for regular oral product. This is supposed to have better absorption so the dosing at 4x a day should work.
 
simmons said:
That was a good read. However, I do have a question regarding this portion of the writing:



The label of Sub Sterone displays the following:



So, in order to ingest 5 mg per kg of bodyweight, it looks like I would have to use between 6 and 7 servings of Sub Sterone per day. Is this necessary, or am I missing something?

I'm currently using four servings of this daily. I have four bottles, so upping the dose isn't a problem if it carries the potential to elicit stronger effects.
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The oft quoted 5mg/kg is based upon rodent/rat studies. To get the equivalent human dosing, you need to apply a factor of .62.

It results in a much, much lower total figure. Given sublingual administration, I would expect "enough" to be delivered at label recommendations. I'm unclear as to how much 20H is in the product, but the literature references the 6-keto sapogenin analogs (there were 4 studied) showing benefits at anywhere between 10-30mg/day.

This, from V.N. Syrov's excellent paper; "An Experimental Study on the Anabolic Activities of 6-Keto Derivatives of Some Natural Sapogenins" first published in 1976.
 
FlexW99 said:
I wanna take M1D+Natadrol+MM+SubEcdy as my base
Pre work - BC+EAA + ASGT + AP + POSTAL
Sleep - IGH1 + Ghenerate
Recomp with Slin..Positive nitrogen balance with Lipo Pro
and finish up with Formadrol+T911

What you think MET!?!?!? :D :D :D
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MAD CYCLE!
 
Received my bottle in th email yesterday. Now after seeing I need to dose 4x/day, I better order a few more.

I have to say LG won me over with ASGT. We'll see how this goes.
 
Mixelflick said:
The oft quoted 5mg/kg is based upon rodent/rat studies. To get the equivalent human dosing, you need to apply a factor of .62.

It results in a much, much lower total figure. Given sublingual administration, I would expect "enough" to be delivered at label recommendations. I'm unclear as to how much 20H is in the product, but the literature references the 6-keto sapogenin analogs (there were 4 studied) showing benefits at anywhere between 10-30mg/day.

This, from V.N. Syrov's excellent paper; "An Experimental Study on the Anabolic Activities of 6-Keto Derivatives of Some Natural Sapogenins" first published in 1976.
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Thank you, sir. :thumbsup:

To get the equivalent human dosing, you need to apply a factor of .62.
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Out of curiosity, where/how did you find that number?
 
TonyMaserati said:
Received my bottle in th email yesterday. Now after seeing I need to dose 4x/day, I better order a few more.

I have to say LG won me over with ASGT. We'll see how this goes.
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Glad to hear you liked ASGT man.
Make sure to let us know your feedback from substerone :)
 
simmons said:
Thank you, sir. :thumbsup:



Out of curiosity, where/how did you find that number?
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I believe credit in that respect belongs to Thermolife's Dr. P or Bane, who originally pointed it out on the Thermolife boards many years ago. It's also present in the literature in other rodent studies.

It is Bane I think, who is an actual pharmacist. Likely him.
 
So how are the Substerone testers doing? Apologies as I haven't been on the board in a bit. I know it's still early...
 
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