Boladrol - A Brand New PH from IBE!
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Mr.50
Board Supporter
Oh boy! Its liquid??? Reminds me of the old VPX "oral solutions" lol......
Delta Force
PES Rep
I think this type of attitude towards other members is uncalled for... if you dont IBE, that FINE.... if you will not buy or take Boladrol, thats FINE too.. no need to spread your hate around here... IMO
wearedbleedblue
Active member
Beta testers just received their product this week. I'm sure logs will start on monday. I find it strange that it's only a 15 day supply though.
jbryand101b
Banned
yea, originally, i was told i'd recieve a one month supply, but im thinking they are maybe just being safe about it? or maybe 2 weeks is all you need to see powerful results.
it works fine for me.
it works fine for me.
jeremiah1710
Member
Just got my beta bottles today...; ) got 2 bottles. 15 days each at 4mg...but many are saying to start out with 2mg ed and work up to 4mg... I was also wondering, more for IBE, if it was ok if i stacked it with something or if solo is preferred? I saw it was mentioned that Androhard or Stano-drol would be a good thing to run to counter lethergy and estro conversion... Thoughts and suggestions appreciated...flames not so much
jbryand101b
Banned
the extra 7a methylation prevents this from becoming 5a reduced. beta testers should run the product by itself, at recomended dosing. this way, ibe can see what if any adjustments should be made to the product/dosing.
wonder why some got 2 bottles, and others got 1?
wonder why some got 2 bottles, and others got 1?
poopypants
Banned
I would have to think stacking it will skew the results way too much to show the exact effects of boladrol period....if estrogen I'd a concern (and rightly so) I would low dose an ai throughout our just keep one on hand...
Personally I will be using 25mg of 6-bromo ed.
JoHNnyNuTZ
Well-known member
The only thing is the time the "Beta" testers, test it. It will be out already
jeremiah1710
Member
OK, i can understand and I want to make sure i can asses Boladrol's affects clearly, but was concerned about libido, lethargy, and estro. I have some Inhibit-E on hand. Do you think that would work at 25mg ed, or only if needed?
jbryand101b
Banned
itz all gravy. let the gainz come. I've got forma stanz on hand ready if needed. I'm gonna go as long as I can w/o any estrogen control. get a feel for how much e this product will bring.
corsaking
Well-known member
what results are you expecting that other d/s appear not to have given you.
there was enough choice out there before boladrol came on the scene , why should this succeed over all thats been available.
if youre really expecting this to do the work ,could it be that your training , diet and rest are somewhat lacking.This isnt particularly addressed to you , but to all those who see this as some sort of magic pill which will succeed where other d/s have failed.
poopypants
Banned
Dude, wtf is your issue?
I don't even work for ibe any more but I'm sick and tired of hearing your unfounded b!tchin.
You obviously don't understand a damn thing about how different compounds work and what the difference between a wet and dry compounds even is....
EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS DIET AND ROUTINE IS FIRST!
given that rule of thumb on the boards a compound like this most definitely CAN be your workhorse for a large bulk, something other compounds won't even be able to touch.
I'm guessing you never touched m1t? Dbol?
Ya there's a reason those compounds get so much praise even with their inherent toxicity.sh!t winny is a methyl too and toxic but won't bring you even close to the same results.
And actually, NO! there are NOT any nice wet mass builder options on the scene any more! With phera gone we are left with the overly toxic, dry, and super side giving sd! And it CANT even aromatize into methyl estrogen and gives gyno out to folks like candy, dbol and m1t BOTH make methyl est, both didn't give me gyno or inflame existing problems, sd did! Not to mention if anything is going to start another ban its going to be a compound, sd, that already has idiotic folks in the ER with liver failure and pressing public law suits.
Really man you're sounding more and more ignorant (by choice obviously) every post you make in one of these threads.
If you have an f'ing prob then just keep your unwanted comments to yourself, no reason to jump on a guy just for being excited about a promising new compound coming out. If everyone looked at the industry with your mindset we would never get any innovation or daring attempts at new incredible options.
So really just sit back, wait for testers results then make your assessments, not assumptions...
Thanks.
Markusrulezzz
Banned
^ Running it for 6 - 8 weeeeksss????????? that sounds like BS if it's compared to M1T and anadrol
the GUNSHOW
Member
so how much is this going to be?
JCunningham
Banned
This looks great, how would it compare to dbol?
Kristofer68SS
Well-known member
N4Sure!
bigbeef
Well-known member
I will be giving this a try. I think it is total crap all the trash talking there has been over this. I mean really, is it necessary? No one makes you use anything, so if you dont like it, dont use it. I still respect ph's, but have never had the blood panels come back bad like the ones when I used real juice. I know, some will say ph's are "real juice", and I say you are crazy. I have used sdrol with good results, everything else has had mixed results for me. But now when I was using real gear, there were always results, and I mean big results. I think this ph, even if harsh, is very mild compared to cycles many run. So good luckto those running it, many will be watching. And if this is too risky for some, try to double up on a boron supplement, you will get huge
SuppJunkie
Active member
^--i like that reasoning.
I also have ran both sd & m1t. I dont really find sd to be that bad actually. now, m1t, first few day, feel like king sheet, but it doesn't last long. lol that stuff kicks your azs.
I'd def like to be able to beta test this product if possible. I know I am getting read to beta test chlorothoxy. maybe a beta test chlorothoxy bridged into a beta test boladrol?
ha ha, yea, I know, doesn't hurt to ask. just puttin it out there
Now you're talking bro. I was thinking the exact same thing..SJ
corsaking
Well-known member
its unfortunate you rely on drugs to acheive your goal
poopypants
Banned
It has nothing to do with relying on anything here. Try to take a stab at my personal practices and thats fine but I hold multiple detailed logs on here and while my supplementation, chemical or otherwise, helps me achieve those goals you can see with proof in pictures themselves that nothing could have been achieved had I not dedicated myself and subjected myself to a strict diet and rigorous weight routine.
Thanks, but here you totally fail and obviously have nothing to say in defense to your previous comments so have resorted to taking pop shots at me... Wrong guy, I'm far to public with my work and it proves itself.
Just quit while your behind and leave alone something that obviously isn't ever going to effect you if you don't want to take it.
corsaking
Well-known member
i read your epi log and credit where its due , it is very detailed and i notice the gyno /puffiness was reduced as someone remarked. How did you get that?
poopypants
Banned
Superdrol, first time I ran it at the rec dose, half way through got puffy nips and even e-form (formestane) on cycle did nothing for it, I hate the sd compound for this reason and more. Had run m1t before multiple times, a compound that also creates methyl estrogen like bloadrol will... never had any sides from that compound other then back pumps. I think this boladrol will be alot safer then sd.
Btw I also have my prime log in my sig you should look at. Prime, anabolic pump, creatine, pslin, Leucine and bcaa's gained a solid 11lbs in 28 days....
Btw I also have my prime log in my sig you should look at. Prime, anabolic pump, creatine, pslin, Leucine and bcaa's gained a solid 11lbs in 28 days....
bigbeef
Well-known member
I rely on drugs to acheive my goals, NOT. That is a stupid statement. This thread should just be closed. to make statements like this, I would assume you use no supplements and get your nutrition solely from solid food. We use supplements to get farther on our quest to build a better body. IF you dont want to dont use them, then dont, but dont criticise those that do
muscl3s
Banned
i guess that guy uses nothing when he goes to get a toof pulled... i mean, what's the difference? you have a ton of pain you take a pill... you want a little more nutrition, you take a shake... you want an advantage in the gym, you take a pill... it's all the same to me... :cheers:
Gator 87
Member
M1T does not aromatise AT ALL.
It is 5a-reduced, being that it is 17aa DIHYDROboldenone. :cool3:
DAdams91982
Board Sponsor
Ah, you beat me to it.
I have seen that said a few times now in this thread.
This estrogen is different than the methyl estro that Dbol will create as well.
jeremiah1710
Member
Quick question for all testers, IBE. With or without food? I just wanna be sure what the concesus is so as to not mess this up. I feel ive read too many contradictory statements about methyls... what do youall think?
jbryand101b
Banned
all in all, i dont think it matters enough to make a statistical difference. but, if one wanted maximum absorbtion of active methylated steroids, they would take them on an empty stomach.
steroids are fat soluble, and some of the steroid could get passed through along with the undigested fat.
steroids are fat soluble, and some of the steroid could get passed through along with the undigested fat.
jbryand101b
Banned
that it will be.
although, m1t is known for increasing estrogen side effects. this is probably d/t it's interaction with the progestin receptor.
two weeks of this stuff should be interesting.
jeremiah1710
Member
All right...sounds good. Thanks JBryan...that what i have read lately, but for some reason, i was under the impression that I wanted to take methyls WITH Fat...not sure where i got confused. thanks...trying to decide if im gonna start my run tomorrow or after some PCT. I just finished 30 days of hdrol, but only at 50mg..i feel great, not really shut down at all and i only had minimal sides (back and shin pumps, light acne) and i was thinking of just bridging into the Boladrol. I didnt really gain any mass on Hdrol, but strength and hardness was great. Hmmmm....what to do.
Trauma1
Legend
That methyl-estradiol that dbol can covert to is some potent sh*t indeed. I'll have my Erase standing by next time fo sho!
Still, I dbol believe is the king of orals as far as I'm concerned....and definitely "the breakfast of champions!"I would wager the etiology of many of the estro-related sides that manifested with M1T (as well as many others such as superdrol and Madol) had to do with both displacement and suppression of SHBG, as well as a degree of adrenal suppession secondary to 11-beta hydroxylase inhibition; which results in buildup of alternate pathway metabolites -- especially DHEA. Since DHEA has been shown to be estrogenic without conversion, this may be one of the contributors to gynecomastia with M1T, superdrol, etc.
There aren't any studies to prove that, however I consider it a pretty good theory. Seth Roberts brought that to my attention in a convo last year.
-John
-John
Markusrulezzz
Banned
Is Erase like a Estrogen blocker? Can u run it on cycle ?
Kristofer68SS
Well-known member
That methyl-estradiol that dbol can covert to is some potent sh*t indeed. I'll have my Erase standing by next time fo sho!
I would wager the etiology of many of the estro-related sides that manifested with M1T (as well as many others such as superdrol and Madol) had to do with both displacement and suppression of SHBG, as well as a degree of adrenal suppession secondary to 11-beta hydroxylase inhibition; which results in buildup of alternate pathway metabolites -- especially DHEA. Since DHEA has been shown to be estrogenic without conversion, this may be one of the contributors to gynecomastia with M1T, superdrol, etc.
There aren't any studies to prove that, however I consider it a pretty good theory. Seth Roberts brought that to my attention in a convo last year.
-John
-John
Nice little tidbit on gynodrol manifestion there brah.
How would you counteract this "theory".. Specifically, what type of product?
RBKing
Member
Man, I can feel a boladrol/epi stack coming on with some 6-bromo thrown in and a kick-ass aggressive PCT!! I say again "THANK YOU IBE!!!" I will adjust when I read some logs as I think that people are jumping to conclusions on the wet sides just by looking at the compound without any empirical evidence to back up their fears.
DAdams91982
Board Sponsor
good grief.
poopypants
Banned
I would think only a serm would be effective in this type of situation, block activity at the receptor itself and there's no chance for negative interaction from dhea, unbound estrogen previously tied up by shbg or otherwise.
poopypants
Banned
And my bad on assuming m1t aromatized. I knew dbol did...
And neither one of them effected me negatively like sd did. I don't know that m1t and sd work through the same moa either, sd is super dry usually and m1t is def wet, would be hard pressed to be convinced their estrogenic activity is similar.
I almost wonder if sd can interact with the ER like many assume anadrol does.... Anadrol is one crazy animal though, so much is a mystery regarding its moa estrogenically and if I remember correctly supposedly even its binding affinity with the AR is too low to even be determined.
And neither one of them effected me negatively like sd did. I don't know that m1t and sd work through the same moa either, sd is super dry usually and m1t is def wet, would be hard pressed to be convinced their estrogenic activity is similar.
I almost wonder if sd can interact with the ER like many assume anadrol does.... Anadrol is one crazy animal though, so much is a mystery regarding its moa estrogenically and if I remember correctly supposedly even its binding affinity with the AR is too low to even be determined.
RBKing
Member
I've always though that this was the mechanism i.e DHEA metabolites that Trauma1 theorizes and hence a suicide inhibitor (6-OXO etc) would work to stop that DHEA from converting to estrogen; of course a site blocker like torem stops estrogen at the problem area but I'm not a fan of taking these drugs while on cycle due to the cost and save them for PCT. Biochemistry and body's ability to convert metabolites in vivo is complex at best and with each of us having different genes to further complicate things makes simple answers hard to give!
RBKing
Member
It is one crazy animal? I made my best gains on it though but I'm too old to do crazy cycles anymore without thinking of my health first and foremost!!!
poopypants
Banned
Its a figure of speech....
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RBKing
Member
Damn, I just remembered this: my only side affect from adrol was severe agrression culminating with me tring to attack a Rottweiler who growled at me on the beach while my girlfriend held me back (she was clueless about my AAS use but I wonder what was going through her mind at the time) Anyway, see the crazy animal metaphor? Sorry guys for derailing this thread!