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Diabolic labs revenge v2....element nutrition black magic.
I am new to all this and is my friend who is interested in these and the guy selling them had said they really good...m trying to learn myself..can u school me and let me know how these two are. Thank bruthas
 
Okay, sorry about that- I was eating on my break.

Anyway, these products are prohormone stacks. This means they have multiple prohormones in one capsule. Revenge V2 I believe is Superdrol (the most powerful designer steroid on the market) and Phera-plex (right up there as well in terms of strength). Black Magic is, again, Superdrol and Halodrol (a very good beginner prohormone by itself).

Assuming you have no experience with compounds like this I recommend staying away from them for a while. If you're over 21 you could look at using H-Drol alone, but anything other than that I wouldn't touch for your first go around. Under 21, these are steroids and you're still growing. Wait it out- your body is in an anabolic state as it is!
 
Hope u enjoyed ur food lol..I'm 28 and not interested in taking any at the moment to scared..this is pure knowledge n for my best friend who doesn't use the internet lol..so I'm helping him out...he's 39..
 
Right on, yeah it's all a learning process, but a fun one at that.

If you've never experienced the compounds alone, I would never try them together.
 
So v2 is stronger than black magic? Have u ever used any of them or know anyone that has? I mean he's pretty determined on using one of them but not sure which one..the guy selling it has truly convinced him.. I mean why not take them besides them being stacked prophormones? Should anything else be taking with any of them?
 
farrellzach said:
Right on, yeah it's all a learning process, but a fun one at that.

If you've never experienced the compounds alone, I would never try them together.
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Yea is def fun to learn..especially when other people try them out first lol...but he wasn't planning on stacking them..is one or the other...and wants to know wat to stack it either one with
 
Well that's the thing- each one of those is a stack, by itself.

With each of those you've got 2 prohormones in each pill.

So stacking something else with it could put you at like a 3-4 prohormone cycle. Which wreaks havoc on your liver, libido, etc.
 
Gotcha!...ok so which one would u prefer? Should there be anything to take and not talking steroids..like liver pills or what not...and what's a good dosage and how to take? And pct what should it be? Talk to me talk to me ( chris tucker voice) lol
 
i have zero experience with either product, but it's common knowledge not to stack two methyl products together, i wouldn't take either of those two products

if one is super and phera and the other is super and halo.....and i had to go with one of them *gulp* it would be go with the super and halo as the sides might less intense than the other one which has two of the strongest compounds in it
 
Young Gotti said:
i have zero experience with either product, but it's common knowledge not to stack two methyl products together, i wouldn't take either of those two products

if one is super and phera and the other is super and halo.....and i had to go with one of them *gulp* it would be go with the super and halo as the sides might less intense than the other one which has two of the strongest compounds in it
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Seems like these two are to strong....So what would u recommend besides these?
 
Young Gotti said:
for a first cycle, h drol, epi, or maybe even a d plex if you can find it
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So hdrol, is that from gaspari? and epi that is? lol...sorry im a rookie on this... d plex? can u be a little more specific on what they are and do please
 
halfhuman said:
Seems like these two are to strong....So what would u recommend besides these?
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First off, those are steroids, not prohormones. Prohormones convert to active steroids while these are already in active form. Tell your friend he's looking at using roids. He should look up all the potential side effects including gyno (man boobs), erectile dysfunction, enlarged prostate, enlarged heart left ventricle, high blood pressure, hepatotoxicity, increases LDL, decreases HDL, etc. etc.

Easier ways to start in the prohormone / designer steroid world from lightest to strongest...

1) don't until you're ready and read up on it for 3-6 months

2) LG Natadrol

3a) LG Trifecta Stack (or AndroHard)

3b) 1AD/4AD by AMS

4) Halodrol (H-Drol, Turinabol, Halovar are common names)

5) Epistane (Havoc, Epistan, E-Stane are common names)

Most wanting to start in PH/DS go for Halodrol since it's more mild on side effects. Recommend lots of research into the actual compound and PCT (like a SERM) before buying anything.
 
Milas said:
First off, those are steroids, not prohormones. Prohormones convert to active steroids while these are already in active form. Tell your friend he's looking at using roids. He should look up all the potential side effects including gyno (man boobs), erectile dysfunction, enlarged prostate, enlarged heart left ventricle, high blood pressure, hepatotoxicity, increases LDL, decreases HDL, etc. etc.

Easier ways to start in the prohormone / designer steroid world from lightest to strongest...

1) don't until you're ready and read up on it for 3-6 months

2) LG Natadrol

3a) LG Trifecta Stack (or AndroHard)

3b) 1AD/4AD by AMS

4) Halodrol (H-Drol, Turinabol, Halovar are common names)

5) Epistane (Havoc, Epistan, E-Stane are common names)

Most wanting to start in PH/DS go for Halodrol since it's more mild on side effects. Recommend lots of research into the actual compound and PCT (like a SERM) before buying anything.
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He does want to take steroids...But damn those sides is serious it scares me and im not taking them lol...
Im on Natadrol myself and is the furthest ive gone...And i am loving it...So natadrol is the lightest than trifecta and so on and so forth...
So should i tell him to run maybe halodrol? He took prohormones before and is currently taking the bootleg D-bol lmao from sdi labs...so hes super upset about that
 
halfhuman said:
He does want to take steroids...But damn those sides is serious it scares me and im not taking them lol...
Im on Natadrol myself and is the furthest ive gone...And i am loving it...So natadrol is the lightest than trifecta and so on and so forth...
So should i tell him to run maybe halodrol? He took prohormones before and is currently taking the bootleg D-bol lmao from sdi labs...so hes super upset about that
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If he's currently taking something he needs PCT and time off before starting something else. So basically 12 weeks from when he starts PCT he can start a new cycle. Halodrol would be the best cost/benefit for a starter steroid.

The current Halodrol from Gaspari is not what its name implies, go for H-Drol, Halovar or Turinabol.
 
Im looking into turinabol for myself..I believe thats pretty light...is there any sides with that or anything i should stack it with? sorry for so many questions
 
Milas said:
If he's currently taking something he needs PCT and time off before starting something else. So basically 12 weeks from when he starts PCT he can start a new cycle. Halodrol would be the best cost/benefit for a starter steroid.

The current Halodrol from Gaspari is not what its name implies, go for H-Drol, Halovar or Turinabol.
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yea he just stoped taking that.. he took it for a week only..
so halodrol is the same difference from turinabol? now question im still on the natadrol after pct i need time off to take that or can i go straight after pct?
 
halfhuman said:
Im looking into turinabol for myself..I believe thats pretty light...is there any sides with that or anything i should stack it with? sorry for so many questions
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Turinabol = halodrol.

Yes, same sides listed above (but to lesser and more controllable degrees).

You want to stack it with lots of food, heavy compound lifting, cycle support supplements and a solid PCT with a SERM. You'll freakin' love it, just be sure you do it right.

Use the search function, there are tons of halodrol/turinabol logs on here and elsewhere.
 
halfhuman said:
yea he just stoped taking that.. he took it for a week only..
so halodrol is the same difference from turinabol? now question im still on the natadrol after pct i need time off to take that or can i go straight after pct?
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6 weeks of purgatory for both of you.

If I were you, I'd take PCT for Natadrol (4 weeks), then wait 2-4 more weeks. It's a marathon, not a sprint, do it right. Get hormones balanced before f'ing with them again. Or you could go straight into it, whatever you want.
 
Milas said:
Turinabol = halodrol.

Yes, same sides listed above (but to lesser and more controllable degrees).

You want to stack it with lots of food, heavy compound lifting, cycle support supplements and a solid PCT with a SERM. You'll freakin' love it, just be sure you do it right.

Use the search function, there are tons of halodrol/turinabol logs on here and elsewhere.
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OK food is not a proble and heavy weights neither...ok cycle support ill get and what pct and wat exactly is a serm? lol sorry..if i love natadrol i know turinabol is better...also is that a steroid or prohormone?
yea im going to research more but would like to talk to u a lil more for info...i appreciate ur help
 
Milas said:
6 weeks of purgatory for both of you.

If I were you, I'd take PCT for Natadrol (4 weeks), then wait 2-4 more weeks. It's a marathon, not a sprint, do it right. Get hormones balanced before f'ing with them again. Or you could go straight into it, whatever you want.
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ok...Im taking formadrol with at-2 for pct...ill wait 3weeks after pct to start that cycle..i want to do it right and like u said is a marathon not sprint...ur absolutely right...
So im def interested in the Turinabol especially with the sale at pp...Can u give me a little stack with that...is there anyting i cant take with that? please break it down a little. i appreciate all ur help buddy
 
It's more informative if you look up some turinabol logs on here and copy their approach. You'll learn more from that than me giving you a list. Plus, they're pretty fun and interesting.

Your research starts with finding out what SERM means and how to find one. Google is your friend for "researching chemicals".
 
Milas said:
It's more informative if you look up some turinabol logs on here and copy their approach. You'll learn more from that than me giving you a list. Plus, they're pretty fun and interesting.

Your research starts with finding out what SERM means and how to find one. Google is your friend for "researching chemicals".
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ty u milas...im researching alot...
 
halfhuman said:
ty u milas...im researching alot...
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Great, keep reading and learning (and never stop). Lots of folks have put effort into keeping good logs, great resources for those getting started and experienced alike.
 
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