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blood tests and ASGT???

corsaking - I'm not saying lg doesn't advertise, but to compare no shotgun to asgt doesn't make sense to me, and I don't agree with the kitchen-sink proprietary blend in no shotgun, now that there are better options with a more comprehensive ingredient profiles... For instance, in no shotgun I have no idea how much of the 6 different creatines I'm getting... Just saying.. I prefer what asgt does for me.
 
Wow how did I miss all of this. I think I will post in here when I finish at gym.
 
Hi Poison I've used it in the past and enjoyed it. I used it primarily during my night workouts, since the stims weren't overbearing I was able to get in my workout and fall asleep on schedule. I was never critical of the product, in fact I think it's the best PWO to be used for nightly workouts.

Having tried many different PWO's I've come to conclusion that none are going to drastically change the way you perform in the gym, occasionally I saw some PR's, but I attribute any gains to my diet and training program remaining consistent. I'm not the type to support a product if it doesn't live up to marketing claims. I understand that it's a business and as such you have to move product to be successful, but I despise companies that make wild claims, with no hint of science to backup those claims, apart from abstract studies, since again none of us (consumers) are privy to dosages. I made a conscious decision to support companies that dose their products correctly and according to clinical studies, in that regard APS and Driven Sports have been getting my business lately. This industry is plagued with wild claims and under-dosed products that do more to financially benefit companies, at the expense of their consumers, just my 2 cents. But I do believe ASGT belongs among the top in this category.

Good feedback! Hey, some people like or need that extra geranium kick, glad you found stuff that works for you.

BTW, did you ever try IBE Matrix? MWAHAAHAA. Evil. Like if the Devil was a coke head, this would be his top tier ****. It's the only geranium product that worked as advertised. I start twitching just thinking about it: 16 hours of non-stop energy, total euphoria, and sleep like a baby. Add in some tyramine and, well, words cannot describe. :lol: I swear it was illicit.
 
Guys regardless of whether you like AS-GT or not, your feedback is appreciated and taken seriously. There a plenty of products on the market that you will find one that works for you and we appreciate you trying AS-GT. Even if it did not work for you, consider some of the other great products from LG in the future; I trust they will work better for you. Poison, like me, is passionate about AS-GT because we have been hyper-responders to it and want everyone to have the same experience even if that is not a realistic expectation. If you really want to see some testing done of the efficacy of AS-GT, I suggest you post a serious thread in the LG sub-forum explaining your reasoning behind the request. USP Labs received a TON of criticism about Jack3d over the years and actually did just complete a University study to prove its effectiveness; don't rule that out as a possibility if enough interest exists for AS-GT.

**** Note that this is MY opinion, not that of LG, I too am a consumer and like to know that what I am taking works even more so than what my personal experience tells me.

Amen brother. Very well said.
 
Good feedback! Hey, some people like or need that extra geranium kick, glad you found stuff that works for you.

BTW, did you ever try IBE Matrix? MWAHAAHAA. Evil. Like if the Devil was a coke head, this would be his top tier ****. It's the only geranium product that worked as advertised. I start twitching just thinking about it: 16 hours of non-stop energy, total euphoria, and sleep like a baby. Add in some tyramine and, well, words cannot describe. :lol: I swear it was illicit.
Sounds good lol, however, I'm not the stim junkie type. I only take these products prior to working out and those are the only times, especially if I workout early in the morning. I don't even dose fat-burners as prescribed on the labels, which again means taken only once prior to working out.
 
Okay guys, I just wanted to clear up a few things. AS-GT is not a test booster, it has testosterone optimizing ability but I wouldn't treat it as a test booster per-say. I doubt you will see any blood work to prove it boosts testosterone because that would basically mean a consumer did them on their own to find out and sent it in. That would be 50 bucks before hand and another 50 after just to satisfy a personal curiosity. I can see why someone would do this for a test booster but not for something that simply optimizes test not at the strength of a BOOSTER. Also the pSARM in it is very androgenic which helps a lot with the strength and recovery. It works right when you take it to and gets better with some saturation, but would not show up on a test for testosterone as an increase even though anabolic. So even if you got a test which would at best show a slight increase in testosterone levels it would not show you what the pSARM is doing for you, or what the insulin complex is doing to help with shuttling nutrients to the muscles. This is my opinion and best guess is that you may see about 1/2 the increase in test you would see from a booster running it at 1.5 scoops a day. Considering it is cheap, and not costing any more than your regular pre workout product even a 1/3 increase in testosterone should be way above your expectations for what you are paying for it, and is still enough to improve your recovery and lifting experience, libido and other stuff. I will actually ask if someone can give me the info on how much it is per dose compared to say T911 which has all the same ingredients for test boosting. I am not going to tell you I will get this info but if I can I will post it up in here.

Oh yeah to those of you who got upset stomachs from the product, Osthole the pSARM extract can cause issues for people whose stomachs are sensitive to it. Doesn't mean you have a sensitive stomach, just that your stomach is sensitive to that. I don't like going over 2 scoops because that is the point I begin to feel stomach discomfort. 1.5 scoops is my sweet spot.

I do understand everyones concerns and wishes for things to be clear cut and no gimmicks in marketing, but reality dictates life and unfortunately the Supplement market is no different than other businesses in that aspect. Advertising will remain advertising, all products will be hyped many of them over hyped but the ones that prove themselves should be held on too. In my opinion ASGT is one of those products you embrace. I will also say this. Any product I have taken that worked for me and had the exact ingredient profile on the bottle I now make on my own in bulk. Why? It is cheaper that way and they must have wanted me to because they put the recipe on the box...
 
just for the record, I started 1mr. That stuff makes me feel like I'm on adderal. So much energy.focus.

I guess it wasn't my caffeine desensitization lol
 
300mg caffeine, yerba mate, guarana, and geranium. I'm sure it's plenty to negate any desensitization you were experiencing, and hey! When this stops working, there's always speed. ;)
 
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