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Well it's time for a change. I have been on NoShotgun for the last 6 months and it worked great for me. I have been taking 2 1/2 to 3 scoops of Shotgun pre workout but it just stopped working for me as far as pumps and focus go. So after reading all the posts on pre workouts I decided to give Jack a go. So my question is how many scoops of Jack will = 2 1/2 scoops of Shotgun.

Here is what I take currently Pre, Intra, Post..

(Pre)2 1/2 to 3 scoops shotgun. I also add some glutamine.
(Intra) 1 scoop of sizeon with some BCAAs added in
(Post) some BCAAs and ECAs with Glutamine.

I am 5'7 and currently 198 @ 12% BF

Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
 
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personaly i think your problem is that your not cycling your prework out. may not be true for others but for me i stop feelings the effects I.e. the pump after about a month and thats because my body starts adjusting to it and grows immune to the effects just like any other substance you take. like if you take alcohol for example, the more you drink it the more it takes you feel the same affects. trying cycling on and off the noshotgun. i normally cycle it with a thermogenic, meaning one month of NO then one month of the thermogenic.
 
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I tried at one point to take off a month and go with a non stimulant pre workout. When I went back on it was back to 2 scoops. Ya I just might need a stim detox for a couple of months ha ha.
 

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I tried at one point to take off a month and go with a non stimulant pre workout. When I went back on it was back to 2 scoops. Ya I just might need a stim detox for a couple of months ha ha.
Try Man's Body Octane for a nice stim free PWO. Ultima is also another ive been reading alot of good things about. You dont want to switch to jack3d if your wanting to stay away from stimulants!
 
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Jack3d is awesome, but it is a stim junkie's dream. Try Assault, it's not too heavy on the stims, and has a nice ingredient profile, without the "proprietary blend", so you know the exact amounts you're getting.
 

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Well it's time for a change. I have been on NoShotgun for the last 6 months and it worked great for me. I have been taking 2 1/2 to 3 scoops of Shotgun pre workout but it just stopped working for me as far as pumps and focus go. So after reading all the posts on pre workouts I decided to give Jack a go. So my question is how many scoops of Jack will = 2 1/2 scoops of Shotgun.

Here is what I take currently Pre, Intra, Post..

(Pre)2 1/2 to 3 scoops shotgun. I also add some glutamine.
(Intra) 1 scoop of sizeon with some BCAAs added in
(Post) some BCAAs and ECAs with Glutamine.

I am 5'7 and currently 198 @ 12% BF

Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
3 scoops of jack3d worked perfectly for me, no sides, just great workouts and lasting focus throughout the day. No Shotgun is great, but once you step up to these pre-concentrated powders like Jack3d, you'll never go back.
 
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Try Man's Body Octane for a nice stim free PWO. Ultima is also another ive been reading alot of good things about. You dont want to switch to jack3d if your wanting to stay away from stimulants!
No I love the stim's that's not the problem. I just stopped getting the pump's and focus. I loved the stim's in the Shotgun. I tried the Jack today for the first time. I went with 2 scoops and I think I need to up my dose to 2 1/2 for my next workout. I will tell you just like the Shotgun I was on the hopper taking a Sh$t in less than 10 mins
 
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Jack3d is awesome, but it is a stim junkie's dream. Try Assault, it's not too heavy on the stims, and has a nice ingredient profile, without the "proprietary blend", so you know the exact amounts you're getting.


Sounds good. I will give it a try when the Jack runs out. If I go with the 3 or 4 scoops I will be out in less than a month.
 

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No I love the stim's that's not the problem. I just stopped getting the pump's and focus. I loved the stim's in the Shotgun. I tried the Jack today for the first time. I went with 2 scoops and I think I need to up my dose to 2 1/2 for my next workout. I will tell you just like the Shotgun I was on the hopper taking a Sh$t in less than 10 mins
Ive had the shi*s with a few PWO's containing stim's. I just tried Presurge Unleashed for the first time today and its pretty awesome. No stomache ache at all, within 20 minutes felt the full effects which were awesome, and hands down wild berry punch is the absolute best tasting PWO ive ever tried. Also cant forget to mention the PUMP was intense by far the best ive ever experienced and it was just back day. My bi's had a better pump then after a full out arm day using previous products. It contains GPLC which im sure is what contributed to the sick pump. So if you looking for a good stim based PWO with some pump characteristic's id reccomend this. Its new so it doesnt have the folowing Jack3d does around here yet but the reviews you do find are all positive. Just another suggestion once your Jack3d runs. Oh yea and i only used one scoop i think 1.5-2 scoops would be over the top ill try this tomorrow!
 
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Ive had the shi*s with a few PWO's containing stim's. I just tried Presurge Unleashed for the first time today and its pretty awesome. No stomache ache at all, within 20 minutes felt the full effects which were awesome, and hands down wild berry punch is the absolute best tasting PWO ive ever tried. Also cant forget to mention the PUMP was intense by far the best ive ever experienced and it was just back day. My bi's had a better pump then after a full out arm day using previous products. It contains GPLC which im sure is what contributed to the sick pump. So if you looking for a good stim based PWO with some pump characteristic's id reccomend this. Its new so it doesnt have the folowing Jack3d does around here yet but the reviews you do find are all positive. Just another suggestion once your Jack3d runs. Oh yea and i only used one scoop i think 1.5-2 scoops would be over the top ill try this tomorrow!

Thank's Bro, I will give it a try... Not sure where you get your supplements, send me a message I got a friend who owns a shop..

What do you guys think of the rest of my regime??? I also take a fish oil blend. I has fish,flax and borage oil, I also take VPX Stealth when I am not getting in enough calories. Thanks again for everyones feedback!!!!!
 

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