Help with ALPHA ONE cycle.

[NateSVT]

I am going to start an Alpha One cycle soon but I have some questions first. I'm having a hard time finding info on Alpha since it's not as popular as SD.

I'm going to do 40mg a day (2 caps) for 4 weeks. How many hours should I wait between caps?

I have AI Cycle Support, going to start taking it one week before the cycle and stop on the last day of cycle. Anything else I should take DURING the cycle?

For PCT I'm going to do Nolva 40/20/20/10.

What else should I add for PCT? I was thinking of Inhibit E, Liver Assist XT, and Reduce XT. Would all three be overkill?

I also have Fenugreek and DAA, should I use either of these for PCT?

 

[mw1]

I am going to start an Alpha One cycle soon but I have some questions first. I'm having a hard time finding info on Alpha since it's not as popular as SD.

I'm going to do 40mg a day (2 caps) for 4 weeks. How many hours should I wait between caps?

I have AI Cycle Support, going to start taking it one week before the cycle and stop on the last day of cycle. Anything else I should take DURING the cycle?

For PCT I'm going to do Nolva 40/20/20/10.

What else should I add for PCT? I was thinking of Inhibit E, Liver Assist XT, and Reduce XT. Would all three be overkill?

I also have Fenugreek and DAA, should I use either of these for PCT?

I would add some PCT Assist with the Nolva the Reduce xt/ liver Assist. Formestane is one product you should seriously consider adding on cycle.
I'll pm you some Alpha One logs this weekend

 

[senox]

I'm doing a cycle of alpha one right. I started it about 14 days ago and I'm starting to see results. How is your cycle going?

 

[gymrat827]

Keep the inhibit E at 1-2 caps a day for 2wks during PCT. Its powerful and you will already have the nolva. Use the Reduce XT and liver support, try to add a T booster and creatine too. They will both help hold the strength you will have build up.

Run cycle support in PCT too to restore things back to pre cycle levels. BP, prostate, acne, etc, etc. The sides can be harsh on some people.

 

[mark118]

Keep the inhibit E at 1-2 caps a day for 2wks during PCT. Its powerful and you will already have the nolva. Use the Reduce XT and liver support, try to add a T booster and creatine too. They will both help hold the strength you will have build up.

Run cycle support in PCT too to restore things back to pre cycle levels. BP, prostate, acne, etc, etc. The sides can be harsh on some people.

when to use inhibit e? i assume in weeks 3 or 4 onwards?

liver support? in pct? i didnt realise that nolva was that livertoxic at 40 and 20mg/day

plus cyclesupport in pct? bp, prostate, acne etc.. would all have been affected on cycle by the anabolics and with most having a max half life of 12hrs im not sure why you'd need to carry them as these effects will subside with discontinuation.

 

[gymrat827]

Run the inhibit e in pct for 2wks that's it. Run the cycle support longer to help with the side effects that will still exist after the cycle

 

[mark118]

^ which 2 weeks?

the side effects after the cycle? im a little confused. i thought the issues of acne, high bp, prostate (as you said) would effectively cease when you stop the anabolics.

eg if hdrol with its long half life of 12 hrs itself causes high bp, then surely within a day of stopping, your bp would return to normal? and unless nolva can affect your prostate im not sure why this would be an issue in pct. acne will fade soon enough.

 

[gymrat827]

^ which 2 weeks?

the side effects after the cycle? im a little confused. i thought the issues of acne, high bp, prostate (as you said) would effectively cease when you stop the anabolics.

eg if hdrol with its long half life of 12 hrs itself causes high bp, then surely within a day of stopping, your bp would return to normal? and unless nolva can affect your prostate im not sure why this would be an issue in pct. acne will fade soon enough.

THe first 2wks of PCT. than stop the inhibit e

The effects of the anabolics will have your body wacked out. The high BP levels will come down naturally but still taking CA will help you get back to normal faster. this is just one example, the liver, prostate, blah blah blad all take a beating.

The hawthorn berry, NAC, milk thisltle, saw palmetto, etc are needed, similar to why you start taking things 2 wks pre cycle, to bring down the levels of everything before the anabolic jacks them up.

You catch my drift now?

 

[mark118]

THe first 2wks of PCT. than stop the inhibit e

The effects of the anabolics will have your body wacked out. The high BP levels will come down naturally but still taking CA will help you get back to normal faster. this is just one example, the liver, prostate, blah blah blad all take a beating.

The hawthorn berry, NAC, milk thisltle, saw palmetto, etc are needed, similar to why you start taking things 2 wks pre cycle, to bring down the levels of everything before the anabolic jacks them up.

You catch my drift now?

1st 2 weeks? interesting. the only times i've seen people combine a serm and an AI is when the AI is used from week 3 overlapping the serm which is started on day 1 of pct

the preloading referrs to the BP and liver issues because hawthorn makes your BP go up before it lowers it, and the milk thistle is there to protect against the liver toxicity. but is this really necessary when you've stopped taking the anabolics? tamoxi is possibly liver toxic but women take it for years without problem. and the BP will come down surely within a day of coming off the anabolic too? BP and liver products are the only ones that need preloading. sawpalmetto etc. dont.

the saw palmetto, which in theory blocks the formation of dht, and it binding to the prostate is something I wouldnt have thought would be an issue in pct because your natural test will be low.

I do wonder if taking Nac would be beneficial in PCT in helping to aid in the liver's recovery, and its a good antioxidant.

 

[mw1]

1st 2 weeks? interesting. the only times i've seen people combine a serm and an AI is when the AI is used from week 3 overlapping the serm which is started on day 1 of pct

the preloading referrs to the BP and liver issues because hawthorn makes your BP go up before it lowers it, and the milk thistle is there to protect against the liver toxicity. but is this really necessary when you've stopped taking the anabolics? tamoxi is possibly liver toxic but women take it for years without problem. and the BP will come down surely within a day of coming off the anabolic too? BP and liver products are the only ones that need preloading. sawpalmetto etc. dont.

the saw palmetto, which in theory blocks the formation of dht, and it binding to the prostate is something I wouldnt have thought would be an issue in pct because your natural test will be low.

I do wonder if taking Nac would be beneficial in PCT in helping to aid in the liver's recovery, and its a good antioxidant.

Mark I certainly wouldn't assume that because you ceased taking the anabolics that everything will "just go back to normal". I highly recommend using something like SNS Liver Assist in PCT if not Cycle Assist.


,,,,oh and the Nolva that most people are using is not nearly as "clean" as the Pharma grade

 

[gymrat827]

Mark I certainly wouldn't assume that because you ceased taking the anabolics that everything will "just go back to normal". I highly recommend using something like SNS Liver Assist in PCT if not Cycle Assist.


,,,,oh and the Nolva that most people are using is not nearly as "clean" as the Pharma grade

preech on sir

 

[mark118]

Mark I certainly wouldn't assume that because you ceased taking the anabolics that everything will "just go back to normal". I highly recommend using something like SNS Liver Assist in PCT if not Cycle Assist.


,,,,oh and the Nolva that most people are using is not nearly as "clean" as the Pharma grade

thanks, i did question whether something like NAC would be useful.

How quickly does BP return to normal when stoping anabolics?

preech on sir

but why is ATD used in the 1st 2 weeks as well as a SERM?

but regarding the saw palmetto, why or is this needed in PCT?

 

[gymrat827]

dude just take some CA during PCT, you dont need 8 caps a day but maybe 4-5 a day for 2-3wks to bring all your levels back down.

If you really want to dive into conversation post up a ? in the PCT section about people coming off powerfull PH's

 

[mark118]

i think its good for people to understand why they're being told to do x and y

eg why should the op take atd in the 1st 2 weeks of pct etc.. its not crazy to discuss it in this thread, and you're the only person i've seen say this, which is why for the 3rd time I want to know you're advocating atd in the 1st 2 weeks with a SERM