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Mdrol/11-oxo bridge (good idea or no?)

mr elusive

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I'm currently in week 2 of a low dose Mdrol cycle (5/5/5/5). I wanted to do a lower dose 4 week cycle rather than a 3 week higher dose cycle because from past experience the most significant gains occur later on during the cycle.

Recently I've been thinking about doing 2-4 weeks of 11-oxo right after the Mdrol rather than going into PCT. My hope is that it will allow me to cut some more body fat off and also help to retain the gains of the Mdrol cycle, while hopefully not leading to more suppression than what I would be getting with just the Mdrol cycle alone.

Can anyone say if this is a reasonable idea or not? And what would be some reasonable examples of dosages that I could do with 11-oxo?
 
I was thinking something like this for the whole cycle overall:

Weeks 1-3: Mdrol 5mg/day
Weeks 4-6: 11-oxo 225mg/day (3 capsules/day)
Weeks 7-9:PCT

PCT:

Nolva 20/10/10
DHEA 200/150/150
Fenugreek 4/5/6
Cissus 1.5-2g/day
Maca 2-3g/day
other support supplements (saw palmetto, milk thistle, etc)

I'm not sure if in this case I'd add in Lean Xtreme for weeks 7-9 or if the 11-oxo would provide enough cutting for my liking.

I also want to add in Novedex XT in somewhere but still not sure where. Maybe weeks 7-9 Novedex XT 3 caps/2 caps/1 cap. Or weeks 10-12 use the Novedex XT.

A different version I'm considering is:

Weeks 1-4: Mdrol 5mg/day
Weeks 5-6: 11-oxo 375 mg/day (5 capsules/day)
Weeks 7-10: PCT

PCT in this case:

Nolva 20/20/10/10
DHEA 200/200/150/150
Fenugreek 3/4/5/6
Cissus 1.5-2g/day
Maca 2-3g/day
other support supps

Same thing as in the other PCT, I want to use Novedex XT and Lean Xtreme somewhere but not sure where.
 
I was worried that 11-oxo could be too weak for retaining M-drol gains...but do you guys really think its too weak to retain gains from just 5mg/day of M-drol?

An alternative to bridge into that I was considering was epistane. I know epistane would lean me out and help me retain but last time I ran epistane (it was actually Havoc; 30/30/30/30) I ran into a serious problem: my joints dried out so much that I was unable to work out and retain any of what I had gained.

Basically, what would be my best option to bridge into to help lean me out and help me retain my gains? Preferably something that would not shut me down further...

1) 11-oxo?
2) low-dose (10-15mg/day) Epistane?
3) Hdrol?

Or something else?
 
mr elusive said:
I was worried that 11-oxo could be too weak for retaining M-drol gains...but do you guys really think its too weak to retain gains from just 5mg/day of M-drol?

An alternative to bridge into that I was considering was epistane. I know epistane would lean me out and help me retain but last time I ran epistane (it was actually Havoc; 30/30/30/30) I ran into a serious problem: my joints dried out so much that I was unable to work out and retain any of what I had gained.

Basically, what would be my best option to bridge into to help lean me out and help me retain my gains? Preferably something that would not shut me down further...

1) 11-oxo?
2) low-dose (10-15mg/day) Epistane?
3) Hdrol?

Or something else?
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An 11-oxo bridge is just fine for mdrol. It's impossible to keep absolutely all your gains so using 11oxo won't hurt anything. The best thing you can is eat, eat and train hard. Keep your bridge short. Take your PCT seriously and you'll be fine. Let us know what you do.
 
mr elusive said:
I was worried that 11-oxo could be too weak for retaining M-drol gains...but do you guys really think its too weak to retain gains from just 5mg/day of M-drol?

An alternative to bridge into that I was considering was epistane. I know epistane would lean me out and help me retain but last time I ran epistane (it was actually Havoc; 30/30/30/30) I ran into a serious problem: my joints dried out so much that I was unable to work out and retain any of what I had gained.

Basically, what would be my best option to bridge into to help lean me out and help me retain my gains? Preferably something that would not shut me down further...

1) 11-oxo?
2) low-dose (10-15mg/day) Epistane?
3) Hdrol?

Or something else?
Click to expand...

Epistane.. At least 30mg ED for 3 weeks.. At least..
 
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