Bulking - Then Cutting

[CrazyBassGuy]

Hey Guys,

I'm currently bulking, getting a little squishy around the edges - but I knew that was going to happen.

I think I got my diet and my training down - already use the usual suspects:

Creatine, Whey Protein, Eggs - so many eggs :bigok:

Looking for the extra edge to gain as much muscle as I can on my bulk - and lose as much fat as I can when I cut - while maintaining muscle mass.

How does Testopro stacked with 6-bromo sound for the bulk.

And Alpha T-2 + OEP for the cut, or maybe Alpha T-2 + ECA ??

What you think? onder:

 

[TeamT10]

be a real man...cut with Alpha and Clen...and throw in Dermatherm for the f*** of it...

after a month its like someone lasered fat off me

 

[Outstanding]

Hey Guys,

I'm currently bulking, getting a little squishy around the edges - but I knew that was going to happen.

I think I got my diet and my training down - already use the usual suspects:

Creatine, Whey Protein, Eggs - so many eggs :bigok:

Looking for the extra edge to gain as much muscle as I can on my bulk - and lose as much fat as I can when I cut - while maintaining muscle mass.

How does Testopro stacked with 6-bromo sound for the bulk.

And Alpha T-2 + OEP for the cut, or maybe Alpha T-2 + ECA ??

What you think? onder:

Depending on your carbohydrate intake you might want to look into a supplement that will shift the metabolic balance into your favor and also amplify the muscle fiber expansion from your workouts, in the form of Slin Sane. It isn't designed or marketed as a lipolytic adjunct, but indirectly it will impart that end result.

Alpha T2 has been a pretty decent supplement for me, weight hasn't fallen but it hasn't escalated either, even on higher calorie intake.

Something hormonal like a Superdrol clone would also shuttle nutrients favorable and tighten your 'squishy' parts

 

[delsolrob]

be a real man...cut with Alpha and Clen...and throw in Dermatherm for the f*** of it...

after a month its like someone lasered fat off me

Clen is not a supplement...it's a controlled substance! please leave discussions of such things out of the supplement section.

also, you're not supposed to run clen for more than 2 weeks at a time...4 weeks could be hazardous.

 

[delsolrob]

Depending on your carbohydrate intake you might want to look into a supplement that will shift the metabolic balance into your favor and also amplify the muscle fiber expansion from your workouts, in the form of Slin Sane. It isn't designed or marketed as a lipolytic adjunct, but indirectly it will impart that end result.

Alpha T2 has been a pretty decent supplement for me, weight hasn't fallen but it hasn't escalated either, even on higher calorie intake.

Something hormonal like a Superdrol clone would also shuttle nutrients favorable and tighten your 'squishy' parts

superdrol is a steroid, not a supplement...see above post

 

[bucca1264]

I gained 25 pounds of bad weight during college and even without supplements lost it within 2 months and put on about 10 pounds in muscle so even without supplements isn't a bad road to take

 

[Outstanding]

superdrol is a steroid, not a supplement...see above post

I understand where you're coming from, but its semantics. I was simply offering up a few ideas to help this member expedite his goals and realize success. Everything I offered can be purchased 100% legally on Nutra Planet or elsewhere on the web. Now if I would have said Trenbolone-Acetate and DNP, it would be another story. "Supplements" as a defining term can't really be concisely or definitively limited, Alpha T2 has a thyroidal impact, so where do we draw the line?

Hope my attempt to offer some education on legally available supplements helped OP.

 

[Outstanding]

I gained 25 pounds of bad weight during college and even without supplements lost it within 2 months and put on about 10 pounds in muscle so even without supplements isn't a bad road to take

I agree 101% - this route can be taken with much success.

 

[luelinks]

Hey Guys,

I'm currently bulking, getting a little squishy around the edges - but I knew that was going to happen.

I think I got my diet and my training down - already use the usual suspects:

Creatine, Whey Protein, Eggs - so many eggs :bigok:

Looking for the extra edge to gain as much muscle as I can on my bulk - and lose as much fat as I can when I cut - while maintaining muscle mass.

How does Testopro stacked with 6-bromo sound for the bulk.

And Alpha T-2 + OEP for the cut, or maybe Alpha T-2 + ECA ??

What you think? onder:

Hey bud! Whats your stat?

If your around 11-12% BF get DermaTherm with it. Also I would personally say Alpha T2 and OEP. I have NOT tried Alpha(but I have tried TT-33) but from the reviews I would say Alpha. If you want to try PH let us know and will go from there. Also supplements like Recompadrol, Slin Sane, Glycobol, and...would help nutrition a lot! Go to outstanding's log and you'll learn A LOT about insulin mimickers.

 

[Outstanding]

Hey bud! Whats your stat?

If your around 11-12% BF get DermaTherm with it. Also I would personally say Alpha T2 and OEP. I have NOTtried Alpha(but I have tried TT-33) but from the reviews I would say Alpha. If you want to try PH let us know and will go from there. Also supplements like Recompadrol, Slin Sane, Glycobol, and...would help nutrition a lot! Go to outstanding's log and you'll learn A LOT about insulin mimickers.

Are you on my payroll? HAHA!

Thanks my friend.

 

[bucca1264]

Clen is not a supplement...it's a controlled substance! please leave discussions of such things out of the supplement section.

also, you're not supposed to run clen for more than 2 weeks at a time...4 weeks could be hazardous.

U haven't given any ideas or hints on how to help this member out so do u really have those who are trying to tell them to change forums? If you don't like it change the channel

 

[delsolrob]

I understand where you're coming from, but its semantics. I was simply offering up a few ideas to help this member expedite his goals and realize success. Everything I offered can be purchased 100% legally on Nutra Planet or elsewhere on the web. Now if I would have said Trenbolone-Acetate and DNP, it would be another story. "Supplements" as a defining term can't really be concisely or definitively limited, Alpha T2 has a thyroidal impact, so where do we draw the line?

Hope my attempt to offer some education on legally available supplements helped OP.

but the rules of this forum don't discern between DS/PH/PS and any other AAS.

 

[luelinks]

I understand where you're coming from, but its semantics. I was simply offering up a few ideas to help this member expedite his goals and realize success. Everything I offered can be purchased 100% legally on Nutra Planet or elsewhere on the web. Now if I would have said Trenbolone-Acetate and DNP, it would be another story. "Supplements" as a defining term can't really be concisely or definitively limited, Alpha T2 has a thyroidal impact, so where do we draw the line?

Hope my attempt to offer some education on legally available supplements helped OP.

He is right! I have a friend that thinks creatine is steroids and that whey protein makes him FAT. Yes whey protein, not Chick-fil-A, coke, and burgers but whey protein that a good one would have no carb, no fat, nothing but protein makes him fat.

I gained 25 pounds of bad weight during college and even without supplements lost it within 2 months and put on about 10 pounds in muscle so even without supplements isn't a bad road to take

Yes that is very true. Distilled water did a log about it (http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/153785-log-_______-cant.html ) but supplements do make life a little easier by giving us more energy, taking away soreness, and helping us eat more or less.

Are you on my payroll? HAHA!

Thanks my friend.

You know the most when it comes to those kind of supplements.

 

[TeamT10]

but the rules of this forum don't discern between DS/PH/PS and any other AAS.

Hes asking advice...thats what im giving him based on personal experience, some forms of clen are in fact supplements, well technically, but why do you have to come into a conversation and just be like, NO YOU STOP THAT...its a good thing your doing ANYTHING to help the person asking for advice

 

[criticalbench]

Anabolic Pump and or P-slin with every carb meal will offset any fat gain from high carbs provided that your diet is somewhat decent. I am very prone to fat gain, endomorph and AP+Pslin has completely changed my body.

Mike

 

[delsolrob]

U haven't given any ideas or hints on how to help this member out so do u really have those who are trying to tell them to change forums? If you don't like it change the channel

I was simply making a point that there's a venue for certain types of conversations...it's not appropriate to recommend steroids or controlled substances to somone in the supplements section, especially if they're asking about otc supplements!

not to mention someone recommending a month run of clen...I'd rather give no advice over bad advice!

He is right! I have a friend that thinks creatine is steroids and that whey protein makes him FAT. Yes whey protein, not Chick-fil-A, coke, and burgers but whey protein that a good one would have no carb, no fat, nothing but protein makes him fat.

Hes asking advice...thats what im giving him based on personal experience, some forms of clen are in fact supplements, well technically, but why do you have to come into a conversation and just be like, NO YOU STOP THAT...its a good thing your doing ANYTHING to help the person asking for advice

I'm helping him by pointing out that some of the "supplements" people are advising he take aren't supplements...there are tons of people that pop sd and other PH/DS because they're otc. they pop them like candy, not realizing what they're puting in their body.

 

[luelinks]

Nobody wants him to take PH we are just telling him about it. I've never done PH but if someone brings it up then I would love to read and learn about it.

 

[oufinny]

Anabolic Pump and or P-slin with every carb meal will offset any fat gain from high carbs provided that your diet is somewhat decent. I am very prone to fat gain, endomorph and AP+Pslin has completely changed my body.

Mike

You know I loved AP but I never was able to eat high carb and keep the fat away; keep in mind I was eating clean. I love P-Slin, it is the best on large carb refeeds when compared to everything else I have tried but they do not work for everyone. That said, I would definitely get some P-slin since it is stupid cheap on the planet right now and you can't go wrong trying a few boxes, worst case you will have the craziest food pumps of your life .

 

[oufinny]

Hey Guys,

I'm currently bulking, getting a little squishy around the edges - but I knew that was going to happen.

I think I got my diet and my training down - already use the usual suspects:

Creatine, Whey Protein, Eggs - so many eggs :bigok:

Looking for the extra edge to gain as much muscle as I can on my bulk - and lose as much fat as I can when I cut - while maintaining muscle mass.

How does Testopro stacked with 6-bromo sound for the bulk.

And Alpha T-2 + OEP for the cut, or maybe Alpha T-2 + ECA ??

What you think? onder:

Bulk supps - Get 2-3 bottles of TCF-1 since it is on a crazy sale right now and proven effective. Bulking is about training and diet, supps should be secondary. Maybe get a bottle of Sustain Alpha to throw in there.

Cutting supps - If you want to keep your gains this is what I would do, forget a fat burner but consider Alpha-T2 (or TT-33). Use Natadrol for 8 weeks at 6-8 caps a day and if you really want to get serious, add in T-911 for the last 6 weeks (2 per day) and Formadrol for PCT. I always think you cut more fat on highly androgenic compounds than any fat burner. AT-2 is different, targets mid-section fat AND I used it with great success on Natadrol.

Others may say that AT-2 and OEP will cut you up more, sure it MIGHT but you are still going to want something that is muscle sparing. Do the math, Natadrol is $30 a bottle and if you run 3 bottles that is not that expensive for 8 weeks and you will have enough to ramp up your dosage after 4 weeks. Moreover, the PCT for Natadrol is easy and you will have little to no shutdown. Something else I have always wanted to try, you could ditch the AT-2 and just do EC stacked with Natadrol. I see that being crazy synergistic and will peel the fat right off you.

 

[FlexW99]

I always think you cut more fat on highly androgenic compounds than any fat burner.

I agree Fin. I've lost a ton of bodyat whilst on a Natadrol stack and the Trifeca stack, only cycled in OEP for 4 weeks so a fat burner has been limited in my rotations and fat is still melting off.

 

[nattydisaster]

I like the idea of Alpha-T2 and a recomp approach to dieting/training. I always would much rather recomp (or Lean Bulk) that bulk up eating crappy foods and then try to "cut down"

I always feel like I end up losing muscle trying to cut all the fat a gained.

Its just easier for ME to recomp. Plus I find it healthier than all out bulking

 

[Outstanding]

I like the idea of Alpha-T2 and a recomp approach to dieting/training. I always would much rather recomp (or Lean Bulk) that bulk up eating crappy foods and then try to "cut down"

I always feel like I end up losing muscle trying to cut all the fat a gained.

Its just easier for ME to recomp. Plus I find it healthier than all out bulking

101% Agreed! Bulking, in my opinion, is an underhanded method for lazy weight lifters to engage in gluttony.