intermittent fasting
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crazyfool405
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intermittent fasting is a little different, it focus's on an 8 hour feeding window to consume your calories, which is usually post workout, and post post workout, and then one more meal.
it works quite well, however, i do not use it, i use a different form.
i would personally take in leucine and lysine, while fasting for muscle anabolism and as ketogenic aminos (which turn to ketones and thus spare muscle tissue)
it works quite well, however, i do not use it, i use a different form.
i would personally take in leucine and lysine, while fasting for muscle anabolism and as ketogenic aminos (which turn to ketones and thus spare muscle tissue)
ZamaMan
Banned
The first 2 responses are the idiots that make bad information and old school wrog body building dogma continue.
I just started looking into IF and have been on for a week with some good results. I feel nice and actually manage to feel less fuller than trying to spread my diet meals out. It was interesting to see studies that prove that your body does not go catabolic after not eating for 16 hours. And that your body still has aminos to process for 8+ on many meals.
It seems to have restarted my fat loss again and I love eating 2-3 big meals instead.
Look up lean gains for more info.
I just started looking into IF and have been on for a week with some good results. I feel nice and actually manage to feel less fuller than trying to spread my diet meals out. It was interesting to see studies that prove that your body does not go catabolic after not eating for 16 hours. And that your body still has aminos to process for 8+ on many meals.
It seems to have restarted my fat loss again and I love eating 2-3 big meals instead.
Look up lean gains for more info.
crazyfool405
Banned
bro its worth the try, your not consuming anyless calories, you just have a different feeding window.
its not that bad..
EasyEJL
Never enough
And it raises insulin sensitivity and raises growth hormone levels too. But who would want that? :crazy:
I've particularly done it as alternate day fasting myself, stopping eating after 6pm, and then not eating a damn thing till the next day after 6pm so 24 hours of no food, then 24 hours of as much as I cram down my throat and repeat. Worked decently while doing DC first thing in the mornings since that was also every other day, my schedule 6pm till sleep eating whatever, wake up quick meal, workout by 8am, then eat the rest of that day till 6.
I've particularly done it as alternate day fasting myself, stopping eating after 6pm, and then not eating a damn thing till the next day after 6pm so 24 hours of no food, then 24 hours of as much as I cram down my throat and repeat. Worked decently while doing DC first thing in the mornings since that was also every other day, my schedule 6pm till sleep eating whatever, wake up quick meal, workout by 8am, then eat the rest of that day till 6.
Royd The Noyd
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IF can be effective for both fat loss and muscle building. But it's cool. Dont be caught up with the latest research on fat loss, meal frequency, meal timing, catabolism, etc.
crazyfool405
Banned
you think you can post them for us pleeeeeeeeease
Nitrox
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I am always wary of these claims. As far as insulin sensitivity goes, I don't notice any reduced insulin requirements until about 3 days of sustained calorie reduction.
Royd The Noyd
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They are all over leangains.com
crazyfool405
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i dont frequent that site enough or have time. no biggy man.
triton185
Member
Sorry but we tend to make fat loss too complicated. If you are trying to go from 8% to 5% bf then yes, every factor counts. If you are going from 20% + down to 15% or whatever....then it is simple. Lean meats, veges and limited carbs and count your calories......calorie deficit. We get all caught up in the freakin details when very few of us even need to. Just my opinion.
crazyfool405
Banned
agreed. after you get to 10% thats when it gets rough.
trying to get lower becomes an issue and extremely hard to do without sacrificing some mscle and feeling like your starving.
i do my own type of fasting. but i **** with my body so much it never knows whats going on. so i may have an advantage lol
EasyEJL
Never enough
honestly in that range you don't even have to limit carbs, just make good carb choices.
triton185
Member
I will take it a step farther and say that 90% of the people in this country would lose enough weight to put them in the healthy range on the following diet!
QUIT EATING A BUNCH OF SH*T..........
And if truth be known, there are a lot this board who would acheive their longterm goals by following this one rule CONSISTENTLY and for an extended period of time. lol
QUIT EATING A BUNCH OF SH*T..........
And if truth be known, there are a lot this board who would acheive their longterm goals by following this one rule CONSISTENTLY and for an extended period of time. lol
TipTopShape
Member
muslim did that!
Mulletsoldier
Binging on Pure ****ing Rage
Some of the principles are sound, and I have implemented them myself, as well as for several other members on this board in my fasted training protocol. In my approach, though, I tend to focus on the period with the highest availability and recrutiment of IMTGs and FFAs for oxidative metabolism, and tailor my training to most efficiently utilize this availability. This is of course in the morning, after nocturnal lipolysis.
The research on fasted-state training is promising, not only in respects to the availability of oxidative substrates I just mentioned, but also in terms of post-training glycogen resynthesis (in the form of increased expression of glycogen synthase), GLUT4 expression, down-regulation of acetyl-CoA-carboxylase, malonyl-CoA, and the obvious increase in carnitine polmitoyltransferase 1 (the rate-limiting step in the beta-oxidation of fatty acids).
This being said, many of these changes are the result of skeletal muscle contraction-induced AMPk phosphorylation, so it is difficult to say whether or not an "intermittent fasting" period would derive the same benefit as a transient fasted training period.
The research on fasted-state training is promising, not only in respects to the availability of oxidative substrates I just mentioned, but also in terms of post-training glycogen resynthesis (in the form of increased expression of glycogen synthase), GLUT4 expression, down-regulation of acetyl-CoA-carboxylase, malonyl-CoA, and the obvious increase in carnitine polmitoyltransferase 1 (the rate-limiting step in the beta-oxidation of fatty acids).
This being said, many of these changes are the result of skeletal muscle contraction-induced AMPk phosphorylation, so it is difficult to say whether or not an "intermittent fasting" period would derive the same benefit as a transient fasted training period.
