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The new and improved 'Official' Aust/NZ Customs and Your Supps List

on the run said:
that's the thing tho if they found a bottle that says multivitamins on it, and it's full of caps that look vaguely multi-vitaminish. how would they actually go about finding out/proving it's prohormones?

and you reckon they would bring you to court on a first offense??

i mean you are talking like if they open the package at all they will automatically somehow know it's prohormones, but the whole idea of repackaging is so even if they find it they will just think it's the multivitamins or whatever.
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Many ways of telling.

1. Simply by weighin a cap or tablet to see if it matches the bottle! EASIEST WAY EVER. Matching caps to label etc

2. Customs are very GOOD at detecting any MALWARE.... esp if something has been tampered with, I mean your dealing with people who do this 24/7 as a professional job. They ain't some KNOB.
Esp SEALS.


3. If it's found, your ****ED. It's CONSEALING AND IMPORTING ILLEGAL DRUGS. If you ordered and it was a mistake, you could claim that, hence they give you notices... but when you've gone out of your way to LIE.. GOOD LUCK, same for the company willing to do this... I'm sure the Gov would contact the US gov and report them!

All over a PH, no thanks.
 
AdelV said:
Many ways of telling.

1. Simply by weighin a cap or tablet to see if it matches the bottle! EASIEST WAY EVER. Matching caps to label etc

2. Customs are very GOOD at detecting any MALWARE.... esp if something has been tampered with, I mean your dealing with people who do this 24/7 as a professional job. They ain't some KNOB.
Esp SEALS.


3. If it's found, your ****ED. It's CONSEALING AND IMPORTING ILLEGAL DRUGS. If you ordered and it was a mistake, you could claim that, hence they give you notices... but when you've gone out of your way to LIE.. GOOD LUCK, same for the company willing to do this... I'm sure the Gov would contact the US gov and report them!

All over a PH, no thanks.
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ok

1, how many multi bottles do you see with a weight on them? i don't think i've ever seen a bottle of any type of tablet where it has a weight per capsule listed.. at most they will have serving size/weight of the active ingrediants, but again, this does not = weight of the capsule as this does not include any non active/binder ingrediants or the weight of the actual capsule itself. the bottle i chose to repackage them doesn't have the weight on it anyway

2. the bottle i chose does not have a plastic seal or any kind that would be obvious that it had been open, the source confirmed that it woud look exactly the same after it had been refilled.

3. i have many friends and people i know who have had shipments of other illegal stuff like benzos etc, that have been shipped hidden in various ways, inside books etc, and have just had a seizure+'love letter' for their first offence. pro-hormones are not illegal, they are simply scheduled well can't remember the exact terminology, or they are not illegal just 'banned' but they are on the level of something like valium or whatever, not cocaine obvious..


to be honest it just sounds like you are giving advice based on what you assume to be the case and your own ideas.. it doesn't sound like you have any knowledge of the actual law nor any personal or anecdotal evidence of how custom actually reacts in this situation which means your advice is pretty much useless..
 
on the run said:
ok

1, how many multi bottles do you see with a weight on them? i don't think i've ever seen a bottle of any type of tablet where it has a weight per capsule listed.. at most they will have serving size/weight of the active ingrediants, but again, this does not = weight of the capsule as this does not include any non active/binder ingrediants or the weight of the actual capsule itself. the bottle i chose to repackage them doesn't have the weight on it anyway

2. the bottle i chose does not have a plastic seal or any kind that would be obvious that it had been open, the source confirmed that it woud look exactly the same after it had been refilled.

3. i have many friends and people i know who have had shipments of other illegal stuff like benzos etc, that have been shipped hidden in various ways, inside books etc, and have just had a seizure+'love letter' for their first offence. pro-hormones are not illegal, they are simply scheduled well can't remember the exact terminology, or they are not illegal just 'banned' but they are on the level of something like valium or whatever, not cocaine obvious..


to be honest it just sounds like you are giving advice based on what you assume to be the case and your own ideas.. it doesn't sound like you have any knowledge of the actual law nor any personal or anecdotal evidence of how custom actually reacts in this situation which means your advice is pretty much useless..
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on the run said:
oh and obviously the source is sending it anonymously..
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Then why f**ken ask you idiot.. if your not going to take any advice anyways.

Take the risk, end of the day it doesn't concern anyone in this thread.. this thread is about what has gotten through, what doesn't.. not give advice on how to illegally import product's for yourself.

END.
 
AdelV said:
Then why f**ken ask you idiot.. if your not going to take any advice anyways.

Take the risk, end of the day it doesn't concern anyone in this thread.. this thread is about what has gotten through, what doesn't.. not give advice on how to illegally import product's for yourself.

END.
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i asked for people with real knowledge or experience to reply dumbass (and thankfully i actually got some via pm). your response was akin to someone asking advice for their first cycle and getting a DON'T DO IT, STEROIDS ARE BAAAAD reply.

0 real world knowledge or experience with the situation and just a knee-jerk reaction based on just an OPINION, like i said, useless
 
Hey guys just got in today this order:

2x thermolife E-bol
1x thermolife T-bol
1x Universal M-stak
1x Controlled labs Green magnitude
1x Controlled labs white flood
2x LG sciences Formadrol
3x ADAM multivit

not even opened by customs... USPS express yo
 
scump said:
Hey guys just got in today this order:

2x thermolife E-bol
1x thermolife T-bol
1x Universal M-stak
1x Controlled labs Green magnitude
1x Controlled labs white flood
2x LG sciences Formadrol
3x ADAM multivit

not even opened by customs... USPS express yo
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Luck mate, M-stak and E-bol would of all been held. Risky order for avg product's :)
 
scump said:
Hey guys just got in today this order:

2x thermolife E-bol
1x thermolife T-bol
1x Universal M-stak
1x Controlled labs Green magnitude
1x Controlled labs white flood
2x LG sciences Formadrol
3x ADAM multivit

not even opened by customs... USPS express yo
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Goddamm customs!!! I've been arguing with these clowns, trying to get my Formadrol off them, as they won't even state which ingredient caused it to be siezed, and every other mofo just ships it in!!! Caaarnts!!

Hahaha.... end rant.
 
With that fat wallet of yours Mick you could always throw some $$ there way :D
But seriously your the ONLY dude I met that can't get it in!
I'd try again, I reckon you just got an official that F**d'd up and now doesn't wanna go back on the decision and look stupid.
 
ProteinMurder said:
With that fat wallet of yours Mick you could always throw some $$ there way :D
But seriously your the ONLY dude I met that can't get it in!
I'd try again, I reckon you just got an official that F**d'd up and now doesn't wanna go back on the decision and look stupid.
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Hahaha, like i need to add bribery to the list of stuff they could charge me with!!

It's not even about the Formadrol anymore, I just want to know why it was siezed. Customs really need to sort out their consistency issues, seeing as I had Nolvadex delivered 2 days later, in a container that sounded like it was full of drugs!!

I might try again, or I might order something stronger :sgrin:
 
Mick81 said:
Hahaha, like i need to add bribery to the list of stuff they could charge me with!!

It's not even about the Formadrol anymore, I just want to know why it was siezed. Customs really need to sort out their consistency issues, seeing as I had Nolvadex delivered 2 days later, in a container that sounded like it was full of drugs!!

I might try again, or I might order something stronger :sgrin:
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I like the cut of your jib simpson :fing02:
 
H-drol

I am about to order my FIRST order of H-drol BUT coz i am sooo over asking people on sell/trade threads....

I cant PM anyone atm as well...
 
Putting aside the whole repackaging thing, I just recieved 2 bottles of Dieselbolan 2.0 today which i ordered from *******, I don't think customs even opened the packages.. But I have heard at least one other person from australia who *did* have their package opened by customs and was still let through, despite the active ingreidant (Dimethazine) being on the banned list. I would jump on this before customs catch on as dieselbolan is one of the strongest otc/designer steroids you can get!
 
on the run said:
Putting aside the whole repackaging thing, I just recieved 2 bottles of Dieselbolan 2.0 today which i ordered from *******, I don't think customs even opened the packages.. But I have heard at least one other person from australia who *did* have their package opened by customs and was still let through, despite the active ingreidant (Dimethazine) being on the banned list. I would jump on this before customs catch on as dieselbolan is one of the strongest otc/designer steroids you can get!
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Is it an over-priced d-zine/iforce clone?
 
AdelV said:
Is it an over-priced d-zine/iforce clone?
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well it the same price as iforce for a start.. and the active compound is actually slightly different to the Dimethazine in the i-force as well (possibly why it is getting through customs atm, altho it woiuld still be conidered banned under the analogue act). diseibolan also has max lmg in it.. all the need2 stuff is legit, by all accounts pretty much the strongest otc stuff you can get with the diesel and beastdrol being the pick of the bunch

btw the original diesel was pheraplex, and the v2 is supposed to be even better so.. given how hard it is for the average person to source good phs in aus i would suggest you jump on this while you can
 
on the run said:
well it the same price as iforce for a start.. and the active compound is actually slightly different to the Dimethazine in the i-force as well (possibly why it is getting through customs atm, altho it woiuld still be conidered banned under the analogue act). diseibolan also has max lmg in it.. all the need2 stuff is legit, by all accounts pretty much the strongest otc stuff you can get with the diesel and beastdrol being the pick of the bunch

btw the original diesel was pheraplex, and the v2 is supposed to be even better so.. given how hard it is for the average person to source good phs in aus i would suggest you jump on this while you can
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Meh...my first and LAST P/H experience was with "The One"
Yeah great, strong as hell, put weight on solidly for six weeks, awesome recovery.
Then even with a great PCT and maintaining calories watch as you slowly deflate and end up back where you were before you statred. i dont get the attraction. they are a temporary rush. Why smash your Liver for gains that dont stay over a few months at best.
 
ProteinMurder said:
Meh...my first and LAST P/H experience was with "The One"
Yeah great, strong as hell, put weight on solidly for six weeks, awesome recovery.
Then even with a great PCT and maintaining calories watch as you slowly deflate and end up back where you were before you statred. i dont get the attraction. they are a temporary rush. Why smash your Liver for gains that dont stay over a few months at best.
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Yep what he said.
 
ProteinMurder said:
Meh...my first and LAST P/H experience was with "The One"
Yeah great, strong as hell, put weight on solidly for six weeks, awesome recovery.
Then even with a great PCT and maintaining calories watch as you slowly deflate and end up back where you were before you statred. i dont get the attraction. they are a temporary rush. Why smash your Liver for gains that dont stay over a few months at best.
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i've never heard of 'the one', but dieselbolan(mebolazine) and the other needto stuff like beastdrol(superdrol) aren't phs they are oral steroids, like dbol or anavar - only stronger. they do not need to convert in your body to test, they are active in their current state. if you are losing your gains after using them you only have yourself to blame. they affect your body in the excat same way as an injectable cycle, only dif is they are harsh on your liver. if you lose your gains after using something like superdrol you would lose your gains after an injectable as well, you must just not be doing PCT properly or you are copping out on your diet/training post cycle

anyway, i posted this for people who can't source injectable gear in australia but want another option
 
ProteinMurder said:
Meh...my first and LAST P/H experience was with "The One"
Yeah great, strong as hell, put weight on solidly for six weeks, awesome recovery.
Then even with a great PCT and maintaining calories watch as you slowly deflate and end up back where you were before you statred. i dont get the attraction. they are a temporary rush. Why smash your Liver for gains that dont stay over a few months at best.
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because THE ONE is only meant to be run for 4 weeks... and the PCT for it, is already weak... so running 6 weeks with 2nd gear isn't going to save your gains.

My mate did 4 weeks, gained 6kgs, kept all of it.

Everyone is diff tho!
 
on the run said:
i've never heard of 'the one', but dieselbolan(mebolazine) and the other needto stuff like beastdrol(superdrol) aren't phs they are oral steroids, like dbol or anavar - only stronger. they do not need to convert in your body to test, they are active in their current state. if you are losing your gains after using them you only have yourself to blame. they affect your body in the excat same way as an injectable cycle, only dif is they are harsh on your liver. if you lose your gains after using something like superdrol you would lose your gains after an injectable as well, you must just not be doing PCT properly or you are copping out on your diet/training post cycle

anyway, i posted this for people who can't source injectable gear in australia but want another option
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Thanks for the info.

Sounds like an interesting mix anyways..
 
AdelV said:
because THE ONE is only meant to be run for 4 weeks... and the PCT for it, is already weak... so running 6 weeks with 2nd gear isn't going to save your gains.

My mate did 4 weeks, gained 6kgs, kept all of it.

Everyone is diff tho!
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I've just finished my cycle and PCT of the One/2nd Gear, stacked it with HGHup, Drive and RPM, plus supports. Killer results, gained about 6-7kg of pretty good LBM, and now just trimming the fat off with a bit of added cardio and RC/OEP stacked.

Maybe lost a kilo or 2 since (fat mostly), but kept all the strength gains made during cycle. Diet is everything.

Only thing I miss is that alpha male feeling....
 
Mick81 said:
I've just finished my cycle and PCT of the One/2nd Gear, stacked it with HGHup, Drive and RPM, plus supports. Killer results, gained about 6-7kg of pretty good LBM, and now just trimming the fat off with a bit of added cardio and RC/OEP stacked.

Maybe lost a kilo or 2 since (fat mostly), but kept all the strength gains made during cycle. Diet is everything.

Only thing I miss is that alpha male feeling....
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Im more talking bout Months down the track man,not weeks. Its always the same, ever so slowly deflate, some slower than others. Why dudes that mess with that stuff always go back for more. Hope it works for you mick, but I seen it so many times with so many people. The result is always the same.The body cant sustain naturally what it puts on through synthetic means. Just a matter of time. Hope it works for you bro. Where getting off track anyway.

Does anyone know if the Third Riech (Customs) Have a problem with Pink Magic?
 
first post

has anyone had issues getting in

DS Lean Xtreme
USPLabs OxyElite Pro
formastane
supress-c

into australia?
 
tranhq said:
first post

has anyone had issues getting in

DS Lean Xtreme
USPLabs OxyElite Pro
formastane
supress-c

into australia?
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Welcome!

Lean Xtreme: I've had it in no problems twice, but have heard of others getting it siezed.

OxyElite: Good to go!!

Not sure on the others.

ProteinMurder said:
Does anyone know if the Third Riech (Customs) Have a problem with Pink Magic?
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Looks good to me.... I'll be ordering some as soon as I can!
 
Guys,
I just realized that a while back i brought a fair amount of nolva...
About 200(10mg) pills of those pills are left, 60 are an Australian Brand brought from a Doctor here and expire in December, and 140 of them are f knows where from but expire on 11/2011... If anybody's interested give us a PM
 
Akula said:
Guys,
I just realized that a while back i brought a fair amount of nolva...
About 200(10mg) pills of those pills are left, 60 are an Australian Brand brought from a Doctor here and expire in December, and 140 of them are f knows where from but expire on 11/2011... If anybody's interested give us a PM
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PM sent.

But i'd be careful about posting trades, someone got banned for mentioning H-drol I think the other week!

Im always up for trades tho or buying left overs, send me a PM anytime guys! :)
 
Mick81 said:
Welcome!

Lean Xtreme: I've had it in no problems twice, but have heard of others getting it siezed.

OxyElite: Good to go!!

Not sure on the others.



Looks good to me.... I'll be ordering some as soon as I can!
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Do you ever run out of Money??? :lol:
Post how you go as soon as you do man! im waiting for the ridiculous price to drop.
 
ProteinMurder said:
Do you ever run out of Money??? :lol:
Post how you go as soon as you do man! im waiting for the ridiculous price to drop.
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Benefits of slaving away in the mines, my friend...

Nutra saying Out of Stock already? Hopefully there's more coming soon, because USP was saying it's going to be a seasonal thing?

Or hasn't it been released for sale yet? Pre order only?
 
hey all, just a quick heads up - on the 10th of June I put in an order for

1 x BC + EAA (330g)
1 x ADAM (90 caps)
1 x Piracetam (700g)
1 x NutraPro (5lb)
1 x Creatine Monohydrate (500g)
1 x Glucosamine HCL (100g)
1 x Taurine Powder (100g)
1 x Choline Citrate (500g)
1 x Vasocharge (347g)

Today, on the 21st June - the order arrived, along with a letter from customs. Everything was let through EXCEPT for the NutraPro Protein. Quoting from the letter:

"Your mail did not meet Australian quarantine requirements.

ID: a
Item(s) in quarantine: Powdered Milk/dairy
Further Details: Protein Powder
Units: 2500g
Action: Held Pending further advice/investigation

The items listed above were inspected at Sydney Gatway Facility on 17/06/10 and were ordered into quarantine and detained in accordance with section 55A and subsection 48(1) of the Quarantine Act 1908. In order for the items to be accurately assessed, additional information is required, as per the comments before.

Comments: [a] no country of production was present on the item. Dairy products need to be labelled as manufactured in a country listed as free from Foot and Moutn Diseased (FMD). It also contains lecithin which can be derived from egg, we need to determine if the lecitihin is an egg derivative and percentage. In order to have the item assesed you will need to obtain a manufactuere's declaration certifying that the dairy component is sourced from an FMD-free country. For our purposes a manufacturer's declaration must be:
a) from the manufactuere of the product being imported
b) on the manufacturer's letterhead
c) signed by an appropriate company employee whose name, title and contact details also appear
d) dated and free from erasures and alterations
e) written in English and containing the correct statement/s as required by the relevant ICON case
f) specific to the relevant product by name.


Dear Consignee

The Australian Quarantine and Inspection Service (AQIS) has ordered into quarantine and detained items addressed to you, sent by mail from overseas (United States). This is because, in the Authorised Quarantine Officer's opinion, the items are likely to introduce exotic pests or diseases into Australia.

If we do not receive a response from you within 30 days (from the date of this letter), we will assume that you do not want to take any action. The items will be destroyed and we will not contact you again."


and so on.

So yeah. I will have to contact Nutraplanet, I'm sure there will be no problem. Just be aware that if you have ordered some, customs might be holding on to it for a while!


Cheers
 
i recieved my liquid serm the other day, package wasn't even opened. that's the last 4 pacakges i have got internationally now that have not been opened
 
on the run said:
i don't doubt it. i have everything i need for awhile anyway.
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They are pretty random hey! I don't order anything which isn't legal anyways.. but you always have that thought in your head like they are going to hold something for no reason! I can't afford to lose money these days!
 
thanks oils. but unfortunately. still need more post.

now i need to spam 4 more. will pm you later oils.
 
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