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Timber's One Month Massacre

May 21 Chest Workout

BB Incline Bench
135*10, 185*8, 205*6, 205*5, 155*12

DB Incline Flies
60s*8, 70s*8, 80s*5, 80s*4, 35s*20

Pec Deck
10*160, 175, 190, 205

3 Tricep Exercises

Treadmill: 25 min / 10% / 3.8 MPH

Very hard to do treadmill the day after legs, but I'm going to attempt to get it in daily.
 
By the way, found this cereal at Whole Foods... I'm going to sub this in for awhile with my yogurt. Packed with fiber, low sugar, and a great combination of grains. Haven't tried it yet, but I'll let you know when I do.

Was pretty inexpensive - serving size is also .5 cup as opposed to the granolas that report everything at .25 cup... so the calories and sugars are even less when you take that into account.

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TimberLakers said:
[DB Incline Flies
60s*8, 70s*8, 80s*5, 80s*4, 35s*20
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Uh........wow. :eek5:
D-d-d-dang brosenheimer!! Talk about Beast-Mode. Sheez. Heavy ass flies there Herr Timber.

And brutha-frum-anutha-mutha, you are looking lean and mean these days. It's easy to see what you've been up to. Hard ass training!!!

Oh, by the way, would you mind posting that top pic of you throwing the punch on photobucket. I would like to use it for my new avi. Just sayin'. :lol:
 
Haha, TG - you're a crazy man..

If you woke up looking like me in that picture, you'd be like... WTF happened to all my mass?! :think:
 
thundergod said:
Uh........wow. :eek5:
D-d-d-dang brosenheimer!! Talk about Beast-Mode. Sheez. Heavy ass flies there Herr Timber.

And brutha-frum-anutha-mutha, you are looking lean and mean these days. It's easy to see what you've been up to. Hard ass training!!!

Oh, by the way, would you mind posting that top pic of you throwing the punch on photobucket. I would like to use it for my new avi. Just sayin'. :lol:
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you could find one on google hahaha
 
Look good man but wondering did you do the calipers yourself? Everything I have ever seen would suggest you are closer to 12% in your before pics. A true 8% is very close to precontest shape.

This isn't meant to be a douche but I never trust those things because user error is such a big part that even the best results show a +2% tolerance but like you said you know the look you are going for so the numbers will be a measuring tool even if not 100% accurate. You are in that tough zone right now where it gets harder to get leaner. I'd work on heavy abd crunches to grow the muscles. You BF% is not high but you could use some more muscle in your abs and heavy (12 reps or so to failures) will get you there
 
I posted the measurement sites for the calipers in post one... My hip pinch is abnormally thin - which could increase the margin of error.

Thanks for the input - not concerned with anyone being a douche. Like I said - I can get another measurement done at the conclusion of my mini run here.

Should point out though - I'm not a body builder - and I'm definitely not going to attempt to increase the size of my abdominals. Wouldn't do much good on a calorie defecit anyway. I'm looking to decrease bodyfat by a couple percent - regardless of where I'm at now.

Not sure i agree with you on this being a tough spot to reduce bodyfat from. I'm eating 3600 calories - reducing that is fairly easy, and I'm ramping up the cardio significantly.
 
And no - the calipers were done by a very good trainer at my gym. It was also done 6 weeks ago (around the time of the black and white pictures).
 
Damn 3600 to lose??? I gain fat like a hippo on 3600 and I am 225-230!

What I said about ab size has nothing to do with bodybuilding but just in general, people who like to stay cut generally like to have abs that show and abs show better when they are larger they are just muscles like any other and larger muscles show better. I am not talking about growing the abdominal cavity or wall just the show pieces but this is a bit of a pet project of mine, that being to show people who wants better cuts/abs how useful heavy ab movements are in achieving their goals.
 
goonstopher said:
Damn 3600 to lose??? I gain fat like a hippo on 3600 and I am 225-230!

What I said about ab size has nothing to do with bodybuilding but just in general, people who like to stay cut generally like to have abs that show and abs show better when they are larger they are just muscles like any other and larger muscles show better. I am not talking about growing the abdominal cavity or wall just the show pieces but this is a bit of a pet project of mine, that being to show people who wants better cuts/abs how useful heavy ab movements are in achieving their goals.
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No, 3600 is maintenence... 3100-3200 will be my goal for the next 4 weeks or so.

I train the core pretty hard, but more on the functional strength side. Higher reps with still heavy weights - goal being to be able to better absorb kicks and punches.

We'll see how this crap looks at the end. No sense in trying to bulk up the abdominals when on a defecit - but again, appreciate the input.

Not going to get too caught up in %s as a goal, being that the tests are (as you pointed out) somewhat inaccurate until you get a true displacement test. Judge will be the mirror.
 
goonstopher said:
Damn 3600 to lose??? I gain fat like a hippo on 3600 and I am 225-230!

What I said about ab size has nothing to do with bodybuilding but just in general, people who like to stay cut generally like to have abs that show and abs show better when they are larger they are just muscles like any other and larger muscles show better. I am not talking about growing the abdominal cavity or wall just the show pieces but this is a bit of a pet project of mine, that being to show people who wants better cuts/abs how useful heavy ab movements are in achieving their goals.
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Timber trains MMA. He needs way more calories just to function than most of us.
 
I ran on the treadmill last night for 20 minutes to warm up for a sparring session that ended up lasting an hour...

"Accidently" have been on a calorie defecit for about 4 days now - and packed my lunch for work today (i.e. the final frontier in wholesome diet IMO)...

Regardless, woke up today at 186, and my usually tight waisted work pants (31") are freaking loose... and my abs were popping out way more than usual.

There's no way this lasts 4 weeks. :lol:
 
My initial diet plan (weekdays)

Breakfast ~ 8:00AM
Shake consisting of:
  • 1 cup Brown Rice Milk
  • 30g vanilla whey protein
  • 1/2 Banana
  • 1/2 cup Assorted Frozen Fruit (Blueberries, Strawberries, Pineapple)
  • 1 T. Frozen OJ Concentrate
  • 5g creatine
30P / 60C / 0F = 360 kcal

Lunch ~ 12:00PM
  • .25 cup (pre cook measure) quinoa
  • Spinach / mushrooms / onions
  • Chicken Breast
55P / 40C /2F = 398 kcal

Snack ~ 3:00PM
  • Chobani Pineapple Yogurt (not eating the pineapple syrup)
13P / 8C / 2.5F = 106 kcal

PreWO ~ 6:00PM
  • Shake as per breakfast (minus creatine)
  • 2 slices of whole wheat bread w/ half a banana and natural peanut butter
50P / 110C / 15F = 775 kcal

PostWO ~ 9:00PM
  • Shake as per breakfast (w/ creatine)
30P / 60C / 0F = 360 kcal

Dinner ~ 10:00PM
  • .25 cup (pre cook measure) quinoa
  • Spinach / mushrooms / onions
  • Chicken Breast
55P / 40C /2F = 398 kcal

Snack ~ 11:30PM
  • 1/2 c brown rice milk
  • 1 c water
  • 1.5 scoops Dymatize 12 hr
32P / 12C / 3F = 197 kcal


265P / 330C / 22F = 1060 + 1320 + 198 = 2578 kcal

Looks way too low, which explains why I'm starving right now. :lol: I'm thinking of expanding the midday snack - 100 calories is ludacris. I also feel somewhat guilty about my PreWO meal being so large (and delicious)...
 
goonstopher said:
I'm a fat ass endo so that is out of my league. 3500 cals bulks me and makes me fat ha
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I have this weird affliction where I like to work out daily too... w/ cardio as well - so some of that calorie intake has to be attributed to my activity level. My metabolism can't take credit for all of it.

One of these days I just want to sit down and eat 3600 kcal worth of Skittles.. :lol: just because I can.

Good to have you here dude.
 
Why do you take your creatine in the AM rather than pre/post workout?

Just looking at that many skittles would make me want to vomit.
 
Sounds good man, abs already coming in better is always a good thing.
 
TimberLakers said:
One of these days I just want to sit down and eat 3600 kcal worth of Skittles.. :lol: just because I can.
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GMG760 said:
Just looking at that many skittles would make me want to vomit.
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Drop the Skittles and substitute them with candy corn.......:sgrin:

Regurgitation averted. :fing02:
 
GMG760 said:
Seriously. I have to gorge to grow, and starve to cut. My body likes homeostasis I guess.
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Same here. My body is influenced by extremes. Can't seem to notice anything from small differentials. Must go overboard.:lol:
 
Well gaining th fat is easy for me. Too bad losing it is hard.
Being endo sux. I'm barely holding on to my 18% now lol.
Good luck with the rest of the cut.
 
So tomorrow we'll try a little something different...

Either 2% Greek Yogurt or FF Cottage Cheese - mixed with 20g of Chocolate Whey (cottage cheese might taste like ass - will report back)

Once I kill off this loaf of bread, my PreWO meal will be replaced with Irish Oats and 25g of whey...

Intention is to keep dinner carbohydrate light or free (i.e. <10g)
 
Also... not sure if you guys noticed, but I have yet to use the dreaded "C Word" that everyone else keeps muttering.

I've been a fighter... I've done a "C Word"... and I will never do a "C Word" again. :lol:
 
TimberLakers said:
Also... not sure if you guys noticed, but I have yet to use the dreaded "C Word" that everyone else keeps muttering.

I've been a fighter... I've done a "C Word"... and I will never do a "C Word" again. :lol:
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Seriously. F*ck cutting unless you are a model or in a contest. Recomp all the way. Slow and Steady wins the race.
 
TimberLakers said:
Yeah, this is a bit more aggressive than a recomp I suppose, but I'm never fat enough to require a "C" in my opinion.
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Bleh. I am "C-Wording" myself into oblivion for an upcoming competition. At this point, I feel quite grumpy: my "C-word" of a diet can go "F" a "D" in its own "A" and then "L" a "P n' A" until it "F'ing" "S's"....

:damnit:
 
Mulletsoldier said:
Bleh. I am "C-Wording" myself into oblivion for an upcoming competition. At this point, I feel quite grumpy: my "C-word" of a diet can go "F" a "D" in its own "A" and then "L" a "P n' A" until it "F'ing" "S's"....


:damnit:
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What contest are you training for Mullet?
 
Mulletsoldier said:
Bleh. I am "C-Wording" myself into oblivion for an upcoming competition. At this point, I feel quite grumpy: my "C-word" of a diet can go "F" a "D" in its own "A" and then "L" a "P n' A" until it "F'ing" "S's"....

:damnit:
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is it weird that I understood every single word without pause?
 
GMG760 said:
Seriously. F*ck cutting unless you are a model or in a contest. Recomp all the way. Slow and Steady wins the race.
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Eh I disagree.

Recomping should err on the side of bulking IMO aka a clean bulk. Cutting really primes you for growth after you are done. If you can consistently cut without losing muscle then you will be bigger year over year. Each and every time I successfully cut I end up bigger than I have ever been once I return to bulking. Maybe it is that I am a giant endo and the increased insulin sensitivity helps me IDK but competitors tend to also notice this rebound.
 
The point I was trying to make is that 10% to 8% or whatever I'm trying to accomplish doesn't strike me as a "C Word"...

Some guys on here are perfectly happy bulking up 30 pounds at a 50% muscle to fat ratio. I'm not one of them. Not saying it's wrong persay - just doesn't fit my lifestyle.

GMG is just saying that a "C" doesn't fit the lifestyle. I also think that unless it's done perfectly - you sacrifice far more lean mass than necessary... I'm not buying the "primes for growth" arguement.
 
TimberLakers said:
The point I was trying to make is that 10% to 8% or whatever I'm trying to accomplish doesn't strike me as a "C Word"...

Some guys on here are perfectly happy bulking up 30 pounds at a 50% muscle to fat ratio. I'm not one of them. Not saying it's wrong persay - just doesn't fit my lifestyle.

GMG is just saying that a "C" doesn't fit the lifestyle. I also think that unless it's done perfectly - you sacrifice far more lean mass than necessary... I'm not buying the "primes for growth" arguement.
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I was speaking in generalities not really telling you what to do. He made a statement that tied into your thread but was not about you so I replied to his answer. Most people interested in gaining pure size who do well in ti tend to follow the lean bulk / cut cycle of gain and loss so there is something there and I have seen it work for a ton of people. Recomping only works for someone who is not carrying much more muscle than their body is willing to carry naturally ehich is not your main goal so what you are saying makes perfect sense.... Aaaaaaanyway, back to your scheduled programming
 
Hey, at the end of the day - we all have the same goal...

Lose a couple pounds so the wiener looks bigger.... ehhh? ehhh?
 
Yeah staying lean and mean is what my goals are, on the way back down now and won't be going heavier for the sake of muscle gain. Just slow and easy for me.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Yeah staying lean and mean is what my goals are, on the way back down now and won't be going heavier for the sake of muscle gain. Just slow and easy for me.
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I did a bulk a couple years ago where I flew up from 170 to 200... and I was probably 18 to 20 percent afterwards... Looking back I looked like a meatball, but I wouldn't trade that growth for anything.

For me now... all slow and easy.
 
GMG760 said:
His size? You outweigh Kleen by 30lbs.
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I'm sort of pudgy and have a thick adbomen. Even lean I always wieght a s-ton more than I look like I do. In my avy I am 200 and that is after diuretics and water depleting. I was up to 235 but I won't even dare share piucs from then. Running DNP and hoping to get down to 220 at 11% or so but it will look more like 200 I am sure because my gut is thicker than hell even when ripped.

I don't have his muscle look and never will plus I am faaaaar from natural.
 
hey timberzzzzzzzzz.....long time no see! Big whats up to the rest of you homo erotic doomcrewers! I see you have added a few more accolytes to the crowd since the last time i hung out. I miss that buster thread we took over...was lots of fun. Anyone seen our pal buster lately? Looking pretty swole and cut for a not big, timberzzzz.
 
goonstopher said:
I'm sort of pudgy and have a thick adbomen. Even lean I always wieght a s-ton more than I look like I do. In my avy I am 200 and that is after diuretics and water depleting. I was up to 235 but I won't even dare share piucs from then. Running DNP and hoping to get down to 220 at 11% or so but it will look more like 200 I am sure because my gut is thicker than hell even when ripped.

I don't have his muscle look and never will plus I am faaaaar from natural.
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:lol: at least you're honest...

Your avi looks straight up gantsta.
 
oh and G, i havent hung out here in 6 months either....yet, i have more reps than you too! huh, people must not like you i guess :sgrin: :lol:

GICH!
 
mooch2321 said:
hey timberzzzzzzzzz.....long time no see! Big whats up to the rest of you homo erotic doomcrewers! I see you have added a few more accolytes to the crowd since the last time i hung out. I miss that buster thread we took over...was lots of fun. Anyone seen our pal buster lately? Looking pretty swole and cut for a not big, timberzzzz.
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No one has seen Buster from what I have heard...

What is "swole and cut for a not big" mean? I'm confused.
 
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