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H-drol PCT help

Swillbill44

Swillbill44

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I am thinking about running my first h drol cycle for 4 week 50/50/50/50 and I need help on the PCT

I was thinking about doing this:
1:Novedex xt 2 caps
2:Novedex xt 2 caps / Lean Xtreme 3 caps per day
3:Novedex xt 2 caps / Activate Xtreme 4 caps / Lean Xtreme 3 caps per day
4:Novedex xt 1 caps / Activate Xtreme 4 caps / Lean Xtreme 3 caps per day
5:Novedex xt 1 caps / Activate Xtreme 4 caps / Lean Xtreme 3 caps per day
6:Novedex xt 1 caps EOD / Activate Xtreme 4 caps

I would also run liver support during the PCT and cycle assist starting ten days before I start h-drol and through the cycle itself.

How does that look?
 
looks g.t.g
 
I would run SNS inhibit E & reduce XT instead.

I would run both 2/2/1/1. I would also toss in Hypertest or Hardcore test.


If your talking about Novedex by Gaspari thats total sh!t, and i am dont really know the other products thats why i am suggesting SNS stuff.
 
i finished an h-drol cycle in march that lasted 4 weeks (my 1st) 50/50/75/75 and did a 4 week pct that consisted of nolva 20/20/10/10 just to be safe. i have read alot of threads on h-drol and they are both pro serm and pro oct for pct. imo i would always use a serm just because of 2 reasons...
1.) it will guard against any gyno issues big or small
2.) nolvadex is reletively cheap compared to alot of oct products today
:)
 
srykerman said:
i finished an h-drol cycle in march that lasted 4 weeks (my 1st) 50/50/75/75 and did a 4 week pct that consisted of nolva 20/20/10/10 just to be safe. i have read alot of threads on h-drol and they are both pro serm and pro oct for pct. imo i would always use a serm just because of 2 reasons...
1.) it will guard against any gyno issues big or small
2.) nolvadex is reletively cheap compared to alot of oct products today
:)
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Someone give this guy a lollipop... :D
 
Yeah I have read so much on h drol pct and there are so many different opinions about serm or oct pcts. I am just concerned with the side effects of nolva and I have no idea where to even get that being that you need a Rx to get it.
 
gymrat827 said:
I would run SNS inhibit E & reduce XT instead.

I would run both 2/2/1/1. I would also toss in Hypertest or Hardcore test.


If your talking about Novedex by Gaspari thats total sh!t, and i am dont really know the other products thats why i am suggesting SNS stuff.
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Whats so bad about novedex by gaspari, it has the same compond in it as SNS inhibit E aslo reduce XT is basicall the same as lean xtreme being as it is a cortisol blocker. and Activate xtreme is a natty test with I3c and divanil
 
google reseach chemicals for your mouse and look for tamoxifen citrate. your mouse will love the flavor variety and you can have peace of mind in your ongoing research endeavors!!!!!!! ;)
 
OP, Pct is fine. I like test booster in day 1 but w/e lol.

Eric160 said:
what do u think about clomed same as inhibit e with tbomb2 for a natural testbooster for pct
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clomed by KS? idk... trenadrol is a sketchy substance produced by a sketchy company. I vote no.
 
Swillbill44 said:
haha thanks man

Earlier, you posted that you would run the test booster in the first day, how would you dosage the sups in my PCT?
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any anti-estrogen will work for PCT, whether it's ATD, Novedex XT by Gn, Nolvadex, Clomid, Arimidex, Aromasin, Formestane, Letrozole, 6-oxo, etc etc.

OTC anti-e's tend to have issues with bioavailability and elimination, meaning they don't stay around in the bloodstream very long so you might have more hormone spikes, causing gyno symptoms etc... for some this is an issue for some it isn't.

serms are notoriously rough on libido/mood and IME i wouldn't use one again unless you paid me but they are tried and true PCT methods supported by medical literature.

on-cycle HCG is the most valuable tool for PCT period, whatever anti-e you end up using is irrelevant IMO and has more to do with side effects than efficaciousness. this is supported by medical literature.
 
I would look into the Test recovery stack from Primordal and also def go with a serm just to be safe. I have ran several ph cycles with otc pct and have never gotten the results I hoped for.

I ran h-drol at 50/75/75/75/75/75. I used liver supps throughout and two weeks prior to starting and did 6 week pct with Diesel test pro and Diesel test hardcore stacked, lean xtreme and Reversitol. Even with all that my libido still lagged for several weeks. I did manage to keep about 9lbs from the cycle but at the end of the day I think I would have done much better with the TRS from primordal and a serm.

As far as serms go I like Torem, but each to his own. After reading up on all the normal serms I felt like Torem was the best.

Research them for yourself and check into the research chemicals for that mouse lol... I think your body will thank you later.

just my .2

Good luck bro
 
Roaddog 642 said:
I would look into the Test recovery stack from Primordal and also def go with a serm just to be safe. I have ran several ph cycles with otc pct and have never gotten the results I hoped for.

I ran h-drol at 50/75/75/75/75/75. I used liver supps throughout and two weeks prior to starting and did 6 week pct with Diesel test pro and Diesel test hardcore stacked, lean xtreme and Reversitol. Even with all that my libido still lagged for several weeks. I did manage to keep about 9lbs from the cycle but at the end of the day I think I would have done much better with the TRS from primordal and a serm.

As far as serms go I like Torem, but each to his own. After reading up on all the normal serms I felt like Torem was the best.

Research them for yourself and check into the research chemicals for that mouse lol... I think your body will thank you later.

just my .2

Good luck bro
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hey thanks man, idk about primordal TRS though. I have already run two e-stane cycles and used OTC PCT for both. The first i used inhibit e, pct assist, and suppress c and kept all my gains. The second e-stane cycle I ran I used TRS and I wasn't happy with the results, granted I was doing a cutting diet but I lost a lot of my upper body strength using the TRS as my PCT.
 
onzero said:
any anti-estrogen will work for PCT, whether it's ATD, Novedex XT by Gn, Nolvadex, Clomid, Arimidex, Aromasin, Formestane, Letrozole, 6-oxo, etc etc.

OTC anti-e's tend to have issues with bioavailability and elimination, meaning they don't stay around in the bloodstream very long so you might have more hormone spikes, causing gyno symptoms etc... for some this is an issue for some it isn't.

serms are notoriously rough on libido/mood and IME i wouldn't use one again unless you paid me but they are tried and true PCT methods supported by medical literature.

on-cycle HCG is the most valuable tool for PCT period, whatever anti-e you end up using is irrelevant IMO and has more to do with side effects than efficaciousness. this is supported by medical literature.
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That is false. don't listen to that . and i apologize in advance for sandbagging .

during PCT you want to REGULATE estrogen, not BLOCK. ATD ,formestane,exemestane,letrozole, etc will BLOCK estrogen. you are trying to recover your natural levels. A SERM ( noLVadex, (not noVEdex), clomid,etc) will keep estrogen levels balanced. AIs will not.
 
Use a SERM!!

I ran HDrol 50/75/75/75/75/100 (Best cycle to date) I used Nolva 20/20/10/10 and AI'PCS support. It was a fantastic PCT that gave me zero problems. Look at it like this. The PCT your planning is what $100+? Nolva and AI's PCS is under $50 and you can almost guarantee yourself a Flawless run.

Do you really want to chance a OTC PCT? It works for some but also fails for others. Get the SERM!!
 
Lou villian said:
Use a SERM!!

I ran HDrol 50/75/75/75/75/100 (Best cycle to date) I used Nolva 20/20/10/10 and AI'PCS support. It was a fantastic PCT that gave me zero problems. Look at it like this. The PCT your planning is what $100+? Nolva and AI's PCS is under $50 and you can almost guarantee yourself a Flawless run.

Do you really want to chance a OTC PCT? It works for some but also fails for others. Get the SERM!!
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Ok you talked me into it. I just pick up some nolva and it should be here any day now. so ill run nolva activate xtreme and lean xtreme during my pct
 
oh and my pct will look like this:
1: Nolva 20mg / Activate Xtreme 4 caps / Lean Xtreme 3 caps per day
2: Nolva 20mg / Activate Xtreme 4 caps / Lean Xtreme 3 caps per day
3: Nolva 10mg / Activate Xtreme 4 caps / Lean Xtreme 3 caps per day
4: Nolva 10mg / Activate Xtreme 4 caps / Lean Xtreme 3 caps per day

or should I run Nolva 40/20/20/10?
Overall how does that look?
 
Get some ****ing tamoxifen. AIs are not intended for PCT, they are suppose to combat higher than normal estro...

Clomid/Tamox/Torem don't only prevent gynecomastia, but they also fight vigoursly to return you to homeostasis.

An ai like novadex XT just staves off ever rising estrogen to ward off bitch tits, but does nothing real substantive to return you to a workable state!
 
Swillbill44 said:
oh and my pct will look like this:
1: Nolva 20mg / Activate Xtreme 4 caps / Lean Xtreme 3 caps per day
2: Nolva 20mg / Activate Xtreme 4 caps / Lean Xtreme 3 caps per day
3: Nolva 10mg / Activate Xtreme 4 caps / Lean Xtreme 3 caps per day
4: Nolva 10mg / Activate Xtreme 4 caps / Lean Xtreme 3 caps per day

or should I run Nolva 40/20/20/10?
Overall how does that look?
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Nolva: 20/20/10/10
Since your only doing 4 weeks of H-Drol I would do:
Nolva: 20/20/10 OR 20/10/10
 
deadaim said:
Get some ****ing tamoxifen. AIs are not intended for PCT, they are suppose to combat higher than normal estro...

Clomid/Tamox/Torem don't only prevent gynecomastia, but they also fight vigoursly to return you to homeostasis.

An ai like novadex XT just staves off ever rising estrogen to ward off bitch tits, but does nothing real substantive to return you to a workable state!
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Tamoxifen Citrate is Nolvadex (nolva) that what I just said I was going to do
 
If your getting 2 bottles, might as well go all out.
H-drol: 50/75/75/75/100/100 If you have enough. Gains start coming week 3..
 
Swillbill44 said:
Thanks alot man... How much do you think I'll gain with that dosage as opposed to the 50/50/75/75?
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Welcome bro.
Maybe see 5lbs, maybe less, maybe lil more. Depends on hard training and diet also. Strength gains will go up, shed some body fat and harden up nice.
 
Lou villian said:
Use a SERM!!

I ran HDrol 50/75/75/75/75/100 (Best cycle to date) I used Nolva 20/20/10/10 and AI'PCS support. It was a fantastic PCT that gave me zero problems. Look at it like this. The PCT your planning is what $100+? Nolva and AI's PCS is under $50 and you can almost guarantee yourself a Flawless run.

Do you really want to chance a OTC PCT? It works for some but also fails for others. Get the SERM!!
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What were your gains like on that cycle?
 
I am currently running an H-drol cycle 50/75/75/75/75/75 with p-stanz 200/200/200/200/200/250 and I have Nolva ready for my PCT, but what I was wondering was if I need to supplement the Nolva with anything else. My only concern is keeping the gains I've made and preventing gyno. With that it mind do I need anything else besides Nolva 20/20/10/10?
 
to the OP, not trying to encourage you to do anything you dont want to but from what most experience you should extend the H-drol cycle to 5 weeks, considering it usually takes full effect on the 3rd week.

and yes, Nolva is a must. ALWAYS USE A SERM! they are cheap (relatively), and also give you peace of mind that you did your PCT correctly.
 
laserbluess said:
to the OP, not trying to encourage you to do anything you dont want to but from what most experience you should extend the H-drol cycle to 5 weeks, considering it usually takes full effect on the 3rd week.

and yes, Nolva is a must. ALWAYS USE A SERM! they are cheap (relatively), and also give you peace of mind that you did your PCT correctly.
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Yeah I hear ya man, I have been doing a lot of research on H-drol and this is what I decided to do:

On Cycle:
Multivitamin- 1 cap per day
Fish oil- 3000mg per day
cycle assist- (as recommend on the bottle) I'll run this starting ten days before starting h drol
H drol- 50/75/75/75/75/75

PCT:
1: Nolva 20mg / Activate Xtreme 4 caps / Lean Xtreme 3 caps per day
2: Nolva 20mg / Activate Xtreme 4 caps / Lean Xtreme 3 caps per day
3: Nolva 10mg / Activate Xtreme 4 caps / Lean Xtreme 3 caps per day
4: Nolva 10mg / Activate Xtreme 4 caps / Lean Xtreme 3 caps per day
LiverCare- throughout
Fish oil- 3000mg per day
Multvitamin- 1 caps per day
Body mortar by advanced muscle science- 1 scoop per day during workout
 
LiveWire224 said:
H-Drol: 6am & 4pm
Cycle Assist 11am & 9pm
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Hey thanks alot man I tried to PM you but I can't figure it out haha
but you have been a big help, I really appreciate it.

I'm most likely going to start my cycle in two weeks I'll start a new tread with my logs, I'll let you know how it goes man
 
4 Weeks of Hdrol is Honestly a waste. You said its your first cycle right? You will have your best gains ever on your first run if you Train Hard on Eat good. You wont see much on Hdrol till the end of week 2 maybe first of week 3. 5 weeks of Hdrol is almost a must. 6 is incredible. You have a SERM so 6 weeks would be easy honestly. I would go 50/50/75/75/75 and if you feel good go 75 for a week 6. Once Hdrol kicks in and you start leaning out i guarantee you will do 6 weeks. Its an easy cycle and it seems you have it thought out. I would 1000000% go at least 5 weeks. That will give you 12-16 days of fantastic results.
 
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