AICAR & GW1516 peptides being sold

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I am wondering what the deal with these are. Anyone use them!?!? They sound killer on paper.
 
I'm curious about peptides also. I mean, what's the benefit of them? Why would one use peptides over plain ole AAS? Or, should they be used in conjunction with an AAS cycle? I've glanced over a few peptide logs, but didn't notice the results peopler were getting to be even as good as say, a test/tren cycle. So, why peptides?
 
GW1516 is not a peptide. It is a ppar delta agonist similar but distinct from ppar gamma modulators (like Avandia and Actos used to lower blood glucose) and ppar alpha modulators (like fenofibrate and gemfibrozil used to improve blood lipids).
 
sethroberts said:
GW1516 is not a peptide. It is a ppar delta agonist similar but distinct from ppar gamma modulators (like Avandia and Actos used to lower blood glucose) and ppar alpha modulators (like fenofibrate and gemfibrozil used to improve blood lipids).
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so with that being said, what is it suppose to do
 
I know that AiCAR is supposed to be proven to turn your muscles from fast twitch, to slow twitch.

my question is at what dosage would it take for this to occur, and do we even want it to...

it is mighty expensive.
 
yes it is very high and no reviews. Might give it a try if it was cheaper or if it had some really good reviews
 
i was an inch away from buying a package of 200mg AICAR (peptide) and 2 bottles GW1516... only reason i did not buy it... i do not think it will go anywhere, and waiting will not harm me. instead i opted for a few mg of IGF-1lr3, as i'm currently in pct. yea its expensive sh*t, so only a rare few research co's will provide these (google and you will find 2 maybe 3). I plan on getting enough to make good use of, and really see what it can do, but i'm gona hold off until either the price drops and competition amongst the R.C's increases, or just say f*ck it and buy that same combo in a month or two.

I am no expert, nor have I used the stuff, but i have done my reading... the available information the medical/scientific community has on these things...

in a nutshell...

AICAR demonstrated increases in endurance and strength in mice, without physical exertion = 33% increase = tricks body into thinking it just trained itself

GW1516 demonstrated increases in endurance and strength in mice, but only when combined with training. with training, increases in endurance can go higher than 70%. effects were negligible when used without a training regimen

The two can and should apparently be combined and used in conjunction with one another and exhibit great synergy.

thats about it in the meantime... hopefully more people on this board will try it soon enough and feedback will circulate
 
what do these two compounds mean for building muscle? Fast to slow twitch? would that make me better for high rep rather than low reps on my bench? etc
 
airvine91 said:
what do these two compounds mean for building muscle? Fast to slow twitch? would that make me better for high rep rather than low reps on my bench? etc
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Good question...I mean if these expensive compounds just help me run longer/faster...well....think I can live without them for now.
 
flightposite said:
i dont think a sprinter would want to use it either.
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Let me rephrase that. Skinny ***olas that want to stay skinny and have no fat without working out and care nothing about strength because they are the female bitch in the gay relationship would love it. Otherwise weight lifters and athletes stay away.


JK JK lol I know so little about these compounds. :lol:
 
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