PH's and oral gear make me EXTREMELY lethargic

Whacked

Whacked

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Hdrol
Epi
Anavar
Furaz

Total zombie. So bad, stims do not mitigate this :( and I end up quitting cycle. WTF. Yes, low doses .

Are there any NON-aromatizing types of gear that do not do this!?!?
 
You may not be eating enough. Brain fog is very common when you do not have enough glucose in your system.
 
Thanks Rodja but trust me, I eat enough for a small army.
 
Whacked said:
Thanks Rodja but trust me, I eat enough for a small army.
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AAS change the game, however, as they sensitize GLUT-4 activity and channel most of the glucose and AA to the muscle cells, which is far from a bad thing. The flip side is that the body has to work that much harder to keep the liver and brain supplied with glucose. The easiest way to counter this is fruit as liver glycogen levels are a major influence over the brain.
 
Will "try it"". Thanks

PS: I know you're the ECD guru. What type/specific brand/product is the BEST these days?
 
Whacked said:
Will "try it"". Thanks

PS: I know you're the ECD guru. What type/specific brand/product is the BEST these days?
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Honestly, the market for any caps/powders has really, really dried up. It's quite frustrating for me.
 
P-plex does it to me bad. Bold clones shouldnt be a problem. I felt good with intense cardio the entire time.
 
Thanks peeps
 
Whacked said:
Hdrol
Epi
Anavar
Furaz

Total zombie. So bad, stims do not mitigate this :( and I end up quitting cycle. WTF. Yes, low doses .

Are there any NON-aromatizing types of gear that do not do this!?!?
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sounds like low estrogen levels to me (i'm not a doctor). I could be wrong but I'd try a 4AD ph stacked with the above if your oppossed to a low dose (150-250mg once a week-test cyp or enan) test injection. The only time I felt like crap on-cycle was without a test base.

I'd go with AMS 4AD or a dhea product like Primordial's Dermacrine LV. Should help balance you out. IMHO test is the best for this. Having a proper amount of Estro on cycle will help with joint lubrication as well as energy levels and seeing how all the AAS mentioned above are DHT based, the most likely culprit for your energy problems is low estro.
 
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