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Help comparing and selecting some supplements

Guido11

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Hello all,
I'll soon be 26 and have been lifting most of 9 years now and have taken creatine, Nitric oxide and multi's. So i'd like to get some recommendations on supplements I started researching in hope of finding a good safe boost. First, I am looking to accomplish 5-10lbs of lean muscle while getting cut (dont want to retain a lot of water either), so over all I dont want to gain much weight since I have ~5 lbs of fat to lose. (I can post all my measurements and bf% soon, if needed) (also not looking to start anything new until the end of April). As I said earlier I want to be on the safe side, nothing too extreme as far as sides go, youll see more of what Im looking for with the supps I have been researching below but would love any opinions.

If anyone can give me some input/rankings/recommendations on the following:
1.) Halodrol, and a PCT (novadex xt or clomid seem best, or maybe formadrol extreme would work.?)
2.) Natadrol, ""
3.) Masterdrol
4.) Testopro
5.) ZMA + Tribulus
6.) Or a natural test boost alone (formadrol ex, Androbolix, Nova..)

Also which (Halodrol, Natadrol, masterdrol, testopro) will pass a drug test and which wont? Curious since I have read some conflicting stories over the web.

I realize these are completely different supps but again I am still early in my research and again I plan on starting the supps after April, so next will be to figure out the best way to take/stack ect. Thanks for any help
 
Welcome new guy ::wavey:

Fist off, make sure you understand your goals. Gaining 5-10 pounds while losing bodyfat is NOT an easy task. That sounds more like a 6 month plan to me personally.

What I suggest is to prioritize. If you want to gain muscle, just focus on doing that without worrying about bodyfat. If you want to get ripped, just focus on losing fat and MAINTAINING your lean body mass in the process.

The only way you're gonna know if either of those things is happening is to use a caliper. They are cheap, easy to use, and easy to plug the numbers into online bodyfat calipers. IMO a caliper is one of the missing links on the forums all over the net.

Before we talk supplements, what would be drug tested for? Work? Athletics? This plays a role in what "they" are looking for.
 
Hey thanks for the reply celc5,

Ya, I agree with focusing on building then getting cut later. I have already started, just know I wont really get where I want to be without the extra help.

The gym I attend has a body fat tester (some electronic sensor thing), not sure how good it is but they also have the calipers.

And the drug testing question was more for my friend, who is in the same situation as me (wanting to try similiar supps) only he gets tested for work and I dont. So for me it doesnt matter but I would still like to know.
Thanks again
 
Guido11 said:
Hello all,
I'll soon be 26 and have been lifting most of 9 years now and have taken creatine, Nitric oxide and multi's. So i'd like to get some recommendations on supplements I started researching in hope of finding a good safe boost. First, I am looking to accomplish 5-10lbs of lean muscle while getting cut (dont want to retain a lot of water either), so over all I dont want to gain much weight since I have ~5 lbs of fat to lose. (I can post all my measurements and bf% soon, if needed) (also not looking to start anything new until the end of April). As I said earlier I want to be on the safe side, nothing too extreme as far as sides go, youll see more of what Im looking for with the supps I have been researching below but would love any opinions.

If anyone can give me some input/rankings/recommendations on the following:
1.) Halodrol, and a PCT (novadex xt or clomid seem best, or maybe formadrol extreme would work.?)
2.) Natadrol, ""
3.) Masterdrol
4.) Testopro
5.) ZMA + Tribulus
6.) Or a natural test boost alone (formadrol ex, Androbolix, Nova..)

Also which (Halodrol, Natadrol, masterdrol, testopro) will pass a drug test and which wont? Curious since I have read some conflicting stories over the web.

I realize these are completely different supps but again I am still early in my research and again I plan on starting the supps after April, so next will be to figure out the best way to take/stack ect. Thanks for any help
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heres a link to ratings and ranking of

well tons of people do love the Turinabol Muscle stack by primordial, im goingto run turinabol LV at 60mg for 6 weeks in july followed by TRS with topical sustain,

skip ZMA unless you need to sleep deeper,

lots of guys like formestane but its all different there is a liquavade formestane by PP and a ton of guys like topical so it all depends
 
anything that influences hormone levels whether it is natural may upset the T/E ratio and could therefore lead to a drug test issue, and also false positives are an issue too
 
ur friends work tests for steroids? unless ur a tested athlete ur not going to get tested for steroids. but it seems that if u do decide to run a PH i HIGHLY suggest reading about what you are doing because no novedex XT is not ok for PCT, and neither is Formadrol. u need a SERM Clomid, NOLVADEX (tamoxifen) , or Torem.
 
celc5 said:
IMO a caliper is one of the missing links on the forums all over the net.
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Couldn't agree more. I'm doing a cut right now and every Sunday morning I weigh myself, but more importantly, whip out my caliper and do a BF measurement and log it.
 
seunim said:
Couldn't agree more. I'm doing a cut right now and every Sunday morning I weigh myself, but more importantly, whip out my caliper and do a BF measurement and log it.
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Right on! It's a hassle the first few times, but it only takes me like 4 or 5 minutes now. I vote BS on all the fellas that gain 10-12 pounds on epithio or even phera in 30 days. IMO that's 6-7 pounds lean mass and the rest is fat. The caliper is the only thing that debunks the broski bs in terms of recomp, which is what the OP was asking about.

JN,
as Sanchez suggested, it's very unlikely that a work drug test would be specific for steroids.

Sanchez,
not all cycles require a serm. There are theories of long term consequence when serms are overused... such as increased susceptibility to gyno when multiple cycles are run.

IMO run Nolva if you have a gyno issues. IMO run clomid if you have testicular atrophy or libido issues.

The only time I'd run a serm without those symptoms would be if a compound had the reputation for strong suppression and I was pretty sure that I just somehow got lucky without symptoms... for example, I'm lucky that I still have any libido at all after running superdrol, I'd still run a serm.
 
JN230 said:
well tons of people do love the Turinabol Muscle stack by primordial, im goingto run turinabol LV at 60mg for 6 weeks in july followed by TRS with topical sustain,

skip ZMA unless you need to sleep deeper,

lots of guys like formestane but its all different there is a liquavade formestane by PP and a ton of guys like topical so it all depends
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Thanks man, this is a lot of help. Is there anything people didnt like about the Turinabol Muscle stack from pp? And do you know where I could find more steriod profiles for testopro, natadrol..? Thanks again bro
 
sanchezgreg18 said:
ur friends work tests for steroids? unless ur a tested athlete ur not going to get tested for steroids. but it seems that if u do decide to run a PH i HIGHLY suggest reading about what you are doing because no novedex XT is not ok for PCT, and neither is Formadrol. u need a SERM Clomid, NOLVADEX (tamoxifen) , or Torem.
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Thanks for the reply man,
We dont know if they would check for steroids or not. I'm guessing not though.

Ya, I am still researching these and want to make sure I take the best pct as I am still learning in this category. I know a lot of people at my gym who dont know as much as I do and they take different stuff, I definitely do not want to risk anything that way. So thanks for the help man
 
Guido11 said:
Thanks man, this is a lot of help. Is there anything people didnt like about the Turinabol Muscle stack from pp? And do you know where I could find more steriod profiles for testopro, natadrol..? Thanks again bro
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Ok, to clarify TestoPro and Natadrol are both NATURAL HERBAL SUPPLEMENTS... saying steroid and those two in the same sentence is not correct. Natadrol has similar effects to some pro-hormones but is not a PH/DS by any means. TestoPro is a natural test booster, all be it a very good one at that, but natural none the less with no suppression of any kind. Also, just an fyi you don't come to the supplement section to ask about PH/DS, there is an anabolics section for that. Keep those question in that section, forum rules!
 
oufinny said:
Ok, to clarify TestoPro and Natadrol are both NATURAL HERBAL SUPPLEMENTS... saying steroid and those two in the same sentence is not correct. Natadrol has similar effects to some pro-hormones but is not a PH/DS by any means. TestoPro is a natural test booster, all be it a very good one at that, but natural none the less with no suppression of any kind. Also, just an fyi you don't come to the supplement section to ask about PH/DS, there is an anabolics section for that. Keep those question in that section, forum rules!
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Ah yes, I did read that they were natural SUPPlements just did not mean to say "steroid" profiles but rather ment to find something that listed their rankings..ect in a similiar manner as the other steroid profiles had. That way I can somewhat compare the strength gains, size, ect and get a better understanding of them rather than just reading off of random websites (which are not always correct). I will have to look more into testopro, couldnt find many reliable sources yet, so any more info you have, let me know. Thanks for the comments,
 
first thing you must do is to consult your doctor before buying and comparing different supplements. .
 
Tomahawk88 said:
I am going to go out on a limb and say MOST doctors have no clue what these "supplements" are.
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Ya, they dont... atleast I know for sure mine doesnt, i'm pretty sure they automatically distrust anything not FDA approved ha. But I do bet there are docters out there that follow.
 
Guido11 said:
Thanks man, this is a lot of help. Is there anything people didnt like about the Turinabol Muscle stack from pp? And do you know where I could find more steriod profiles for testopro, natadrol..? Thanks again bro
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well sides arent very common with turinabol but you gotta rememeber it is a prohormone, and no you wont find steroid profiles on testopro or natadfrol those arent steroids they are herbals
 
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