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Tren/Mass xtreme PCT help NEW to FORUM

Gogreek

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About to start up Tren Xtreme and Mass Xtreme
for post cycle the supp store owner recommended me estro-xtreme and liver support (LiverRx)
Plan on taking
tren/mass two weeks
tren/mass/estro/liver two weeks
estro/liver two weeks
Sould I take a SERM I want to do whatever I can to rebound my bodies natural cycles and maintain gains to best possible ability.
Help deeply appriciated
 
Gogreek said:
About to start up Tren Xtreme and Mass Xtreme
for post cycle the supp store owner recommended me estro-xtreme and liver support (LiverRx)
Plan on taking
tren/mass two weeks
tren/mass/estro/liver two weeks
estro/liver two weeks
Sould I take a SERM I want to do whatever I can to rebound my bodies natural cycles and maintain gains to best possible ability.
Help deeply appriciated
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First thing first if this is your first time using pro-anabolics: this stack is too much. If not choose running one or the other to see how your body reacts to these supplements. Even if you take just one of them, you can still put on 15-20 pounds of muscle.

You def need more for support supplements. livr xtreme is good but you need support for blood pressure and cholestrol profile. Would recommend adding in AI cycle support or CEL cycle assist. Also CEL pct assist or AI post cycle support would be good addition aswell in pct but continue the use of cycle support through the end of pct. Also need fishoil and a good multi vitamin. When i run tren i keep cabergoline on hand incase of progestin gyno, but some people recommend running a low dose of p5p or vitamin b6 with vitex. the Estro x is good to run in the last two weeks of this stack into two weeks of pct like you said. I would personally run it at one pill (50mg) all the way through into two weeks of pct. But, I would personally have Clomid or Toremifene in hand because more than likely this cycle will shut you down and shrink your balls so you may need it to get back to normal. I also like to keep a light water retention for strength after pct which is why i start creatine (Sizeon) during PCT.
 
Gogreek said:
About to start up Tren Xtreme and Mass Xtreme
for post cycle the supp store owner recommended me estro-xtreme and liver support (LiverRx)
Plan on taking
tren/mass two weeks
tren/mass/estro/liver two weeks
estro/liver two weeks
Sould I take a SERM I want to do whatever I can to rebound my bodies natural cycles and maintain gains to best possible ability.
Help deeply appriciated
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whats mass xtreme?

yes use a serm for tren, clomi preferably
 
I have taken tren before and have been clean of supplements for 6-8 months beside protein powder and occasional preworkout. I know guys who have stacked this and are good. Where can I get clomid without prescription. The first time i took tren I just did my estro xtreme and liver support for pct. Also I do take a multi-vitamin and flaxseed oil,zinc,niacin and a chromium picolinate to keep my skin clear which I highly recommend.
Heres what I am looking at now

Tren/Mass/AI Cycle Assist 2 Weeks
Tren/Mass/AI Cycle Assist/Estro Xtreme/Liver support 2weeks
AI Post Cycle support/Estro Xtreme/Liver/Clomid 2 weeks
Post Cycle/Clomid 2 weeks
Possibly after this get on a natural test booster and maybe size-on to maintain strength.


“Tren” in “Tren Xtreme” is also known by the following chemical names: 19-Norandrosta-4,9-diene-3,17-dione and Estra-4,9-diene-3,17-dione.

“Madol” in “Mass Xtreme” is also known by the following synonyms: desoxymethyltestosterone, DMT and 17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol.

What about running first two weeks tren second two weeks tren and mass or two weeks tren/mass then two weeks just mass?
Any other recommendation?
 
Gogreek said:
I have taken tren before and have been clean of supplements for 6-8 months beside protein powder and occasional preworkout. I know guys who have stacked this and are good. Where can I get clomid without prescription. The first time i took tren I just did my estro xtreme and liver support for pct. Also I do take a multi-vitamin and flaxseed oil,zinc,niacin and a chromium picolinate to keep my skin clear which I highly recommend.
Heres what I am looking at now

Tren/Mass/AI Cycle Assist 2 Weeks
Tren/Mass/AI Cycle Assist/Estro Xtreme/Liver support 2weeks
AI Post Cycle support/Estro Xtreme/Liver/Clomid 2 weeks
Post Cycle/Clomid 2 weeks
Possibly after this get on a natural test booster and maybe size-on to maintain strength.


“Tren” in “Tren Xtreme” is also known by the following chemical names: 19-Norandrosta-4,9-diene-3,17-dione and Estra-4,9-diene-3,17-dione.

“Madol” in “Mass Xtreme” is also known by the following synonyms: desoxymethyltestosterone, DMT and 17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol.

What about running first two weeks tren second two weeks tren and mass or two weeks tren/mass then two weeks just mass?
Any other recommendation?
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Dude, Im bout to run this same stack in 5 weeks (ACL tren & CEL P-plex) and this is what im thinkin..

Tren Xtreme 90/90/90/90/120/120 may change dosing
P-PLEX 00/00/10/20/20-30/30 may change dosing
Estro Xtreme 00/00/00/00/50/50 PCT 50/50/00/00
Clomid PCT 75/50/50/50 may change dosing
Cabergoline .5mg 2 x week if needed

I have also ran tren for 6 weeks before and didnt experience those horrible sides that some have gotten which is why im gonna run it at 120mg. When are you going to run this? because im curious to know how things go for you. Also, chromium picolinate? Is that for acne prevention? I was planning on running 4-6 grams of pantothenic acid(B5) for acne through cycle, but now im curious to hear if chromium picolinate works well?
 
I take a flax seed and chromium in the morning with a meal and at night i take a zinc and niacin 250 or 500 b3 full flush. (take two motrin 20mins before to stop a niacin fluch rash)
all of this promotes clearskin, when my skin gets bad I take this and in a week or week and a half if done every day along with drinking plenty of water your skin is amazing.
I would take the B5 as well to help get great skin i will probably add that.
I am about 4 weeks away from running it. Where did you get clomid from prescription?
 
Gogreek said:
I take a flax seed and chromium in the morning with a meal and at night i take a zinc and niacin 250 or 500 b3 full flush. (take two motrin 20mins before to stop a niacin fluch rash)
all of this promotes clearskin, when my skin gets bad I take this and in a week or week and a half if done every day along with drinking plenty of water your skin is amazing.
I would take the B5 as well to help get great skin i will probably add that.
I am about 4 weeks away from running it. Where did you get clomid from prescription?
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Will my risk of Gynecomastia be high if stacking both of these? I am a generally a cut guy and don't have this problem as some to naturally.
 
Gogreek said:
Will my risk of Gynecomastia be high if stacking both of these? I am a generally a cut guy and don't have this problem as some to naturally.
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Im sure it can be for alot of people, but taking the right precautions such as including estro xtreme(4-oha/formestane: Blocks estrogen conversion & decreases the receptor count of estrogen and progesterone) into your cycle, having a SERM on hand and even an anti-prolactin (cabergoline) or running p5p vitamin B6 supplement can support a gyno free progestin cycle. Cycle lengths, dosing, experience, and being aware of the first signs of a gyno also adds to keeping you in control of the situation.

Can somebody please prove to me IF or IF NOT phera plex/p-plex/ mass xtreme is a progestin? I have not found any solid information saying that it is????
 
Jshepherd23 said:
Im sure it can be for alot of people, but taking the right precautions such as including estro xtreme(4-oha/formestane: Blocks estrogen conversion & decreases the receptor count of estrogen and progesterone) into your cycle, having a SERM on hand and even an anti-prolactin (cabergoline) or running p5p vitamin B6 supplement can support a gyno free progestin cycle. Cycle lengths, dosing, experience, and being aware of the first signs of a gyno also adds to keeping you in control of the situation.

Can somebody please prove to me IF or IF NOT phera plex/p-plex/ mass xtreme is a progestin? I have not found any solid information saying that it is????
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Anyone....?
 
I just find that there are better combos out there to achieve the same goals.

if your caber is legit it should do the trick but than you mine as start adding hCG to cycle as well. And if for some reason your get some prolactin problems you'll regeret it :banghead:
 
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