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first time using mdrol

tumtum

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CURRENT stats- 5'9.5 @ 175lbs around 11-12% bf, 23 yrs old, 7 yrs of lifting

i'm preloading my cycle with 2 weeks of CEL cycle support.


weeks 1-3 CEL mdrol 10/20/20 and CEL cycle support
weeks 4-7 Nolva 20/20/10/10 and CEL PCT support

will run lean xtreme the last 2 weeks of pct to battle cortisol

other supplements include flax oil, fish oil, multivitamin

i also have taurine to battle back pumps. i heard that milk thistle has a negative effect on the absorption of mdrol so i'm spacing out my support supplements..

macros will be around 275/350/100 which totals to about 3400 calories, will add more calories when/if i stall.. currently cutting on 1900 so i could start bulking at 2800 calories..

i plan on eating 100% clean with all my calories coming from chicken, steak, eggs, brown rice, sweet potatoes, brocolli, skim milk, caseine and whey. only if i stall will i add any box dinners or garbage like that (may have one pizza a week but we will see.

no less than a gallon of water a day



GOALS:

12-15 pounds with little fat
keep my waist below 33 inches (right now 31-31.5)
increase upper chest size
hit incline db's with 100s x 12

5 day split
monday-chest
tuesday-bis and tris
wednesday-legs
thursday- back
friday-upper chest and shoulders

will do light cardio 3 days a week (1.5 mile jog)

will have before and after pics and measurements,,, anything i'm missing fellas? i'm making this thread so i have plenty of time to get something else if i need it.
 
I am currently in the middle (well, today is day 3) of my 1st super run myself. Only thing you may want to consider running during PCT is an AI weeks 5-9. Like start your AI on day 15 of PCT and taper the dosage down across 4 weeks. On another note, you could do as Irish Canon suggested and run LG's Methyl 1-D (or PP's Dermacrine would work well here too) along side the M-drol so as to combat the side effects of low testosterone. This would be analagous to HCG in a longer injectable cycle and makes the transition between on-cycle and post-cycle a bit easier. Hope everything goes well with your cycle.
 
Nice plan. Dont be afraid to play with dosing. I found that 20mgs gave me extreme back pumps even with taurine. I was not able to get in good squat days or deadlifts, so I backed it down to 15mgs and that was perfect for me.

Also might want to look into cortisol control starting on week 3 of PCT.
 
ktatro1- everything i've read has told me to not stack mdrol with anything my first time using it.. so i'm kinda worried about that

p5sky- i stated and u might just have missed it.. that i'm using lean extreme weeks 3 and 4 of my pct to battle cortisol rebound
 
tumtum said:
ktatro1- everything i've read has told me to not stack mdrol with anything my first time using it.. so i'm kinda worried about that

p5sky- i stated and u might just have missed it.. that i'm using lean extreme weeks 3 and 4 of my pct to battle cortisol rebound
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The M1D is a good product IMO, but it will not add too much to the SD. It is mainly to battle some of the sides related to SD, such as lethargy and low libido. If you have it on hand like I do then try it, but I wouldnt say its a necessary addition.

Sorry, didnt see the cort control. You sound good to me.
 
any opinions on my split? is a 5 day too much?

the main reason i have been using the 5 day is because my chest is lagging badly. i used to do chest and tris with tris at the end of course. so by the time i finally fed my muscles my chest had been done with the workout for 40 minutes. by having a 5 days split i finish my chest and have my whey and dextrose 10 minutes later.
 
tumtum said:
any opinions on my split? is a 5 day too much?

the main reason i have been using the 5 day is because my chest is lagging badly. i used to do chest and tris with tris at the end of course. so by the time i finally fed my muscles my chest had been done with the workout for 40 minutes. by having a 5 days split i finish my chest and have my whey and dextrose 10 minutes later.
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The split is fine. Really you have to know what is gonna work for you and tailor your workout to that. If that fits the goals of your cycle run it that way. As for the stacking, Methyl 1-D is not a methylated compound, nor are you taking a full dose (3-4 caps ED vs. 5-6 ED). The point of the M 1-D is not so much for anabolic purposes, but as p5sky put it, to combat typical "low test" sides. It is slightly suppressive in its own right but it will keep your energy levels up and libido high(er) than it normally would be on cycle. Try not to view the M1-D as a part of a stack, but more like another ancillary to add to your current list of goodies. :439:
 
i ordered some m1,4add by CEL to combat lethargy and low libido... what dosage should i use to "stack" with my mdrol?
 
I am on a M1. 4ADD / P-mag stack and I am seeing some lethargy from it. Just pop some DHEA to fight the lethargy on a mdrol cycle. I have done it a few times now and it has worked fine.
 
I am a noob and just joined the site. I'm 19 and I've never tried any PH before. Just graduated fire academy and one of the guys ( about my size before he started his cycle ) ReAlLy Suggested doing a 4-week cycle of Mdrol, he said it was his first cycle and he loved it. I'm in good shape and am healthy. Just doing some research before I buy anything and would love some insight on exactly what to take pre-cycle and post-cycle. I would Greatly Appreciate some info. I'm 6'2" and weigh 175, would love to pump up a bit more and weigh around 185-190.
 
you have plenty of frame to fill out before you try mdrol.. i know i'm no hauss but i've seen 200lbs and i'm a lot shorter than you...

see if u can get to 200 first and then worry about ph's... and dont start with mdrol
 
after further research i was not supposed to get m1,4add to battle lethargy.. haha.. now i have this bottle.. i'll save it for future use i'm sure it will get banned eventually
 
im on my 2nd week day 2 of my mdrol cycle running it at 10/10/10 not noticable sides for me yet libidos still high no lethargy. only low dose tho herd heaps of good things on 10mg doses but ppl react all differently im just using this cycle as n experiment for the next run where ill bring in test e or something along those lines.
 
sweet man.. yeah i thought about running 10/10/10... but i know me.. it's hard for me to keep the doses low...i cant even make it the entire first week on a low dose... i usually bump my dose up after 6 days and not 7... i just cant wait
 
so i bought some DHEA today to battle the lethargy i may experience but here's another question..

i'd like to take in as many carbs as possible w/o them being total garbage.. so far my sources are only sweet potatoes and brown rice.. would it be alright to add in cereal (crispix) and wheat waffles to really pound in the carbs while actually enjoying them as i do so? for instance 2 cups of cereal is something around 50 grams and 3 waffles is something like 80 grams.. (waffles are great when i figure out my waffle iron settings)
 
WeR911 said:
I am a noob and just joined the site. I'm 19 and I've never tried any PH before. Just graduated fire academy and one of the guys ( about my size before he started his cycle ) ReAlLy Suggested doing a 4-week cycle of Mdrol, he said it was his first cycle and he loved it. I'm in good shape and am healthy. Just doing some research before I buy anything and would love some insight on exactly what to take pre-cycle and post-cycle. I would Greatly Appreciate some info. I'm 6'2" and weigh 175, would love to pump up a bit more and weigh around 185-190.
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:hijacked: You should start your own thread rather than jack his log. But from the sounds of it you have to do a lot more research using the search function before you even do that. You are 19 that's too young for steroids.
 
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