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Primordial Performance presents: Turinabol-LV

Hey guys, I need some serious advice here. I am 21 and a half years old with no cycles under my belt yet. I am 5'10 ~195lbs. I began working out just before I turned 17 and I was like 5'8 130 back then. From ages 17-19 I went from 130-205 naturally before my string of shoulder dislocations and as a result, torn labrums. Currently I have tears in both of my labrums. For the past year, my weight has reached a standstill. I fluctuate between 190-195. I can never bust through this plateau because it seems like whenever I take one step forward in the weight room, I take 2 steps back the next week because my shoulder starts to hurt and what not. I have ordered Superdrone but I am unsure if I will use it right now and have now considered using Turinabol being that this would be my first cylce. I have a solid foundation as I have been lifting for 4-5 years and have gained a ton naturally (I used to be a stick), but I dont know if I should take the leap and use Turinabol. Its like Ive been in a rut in the gym for the past year and nothing I do can get me out of it. I've tried basically everything. I may have reached my genetic natural limit, who knows? One of my questions in addition to whether or not you guys feel I am ready for this is whether it would be safe to use when I have bad shoulders as it is? I dont really want to go through another injury and end up having to have surgery on one of my shoulders. Sorry for my rant guys, but any advice/wisdom would be much appreciated. Also, it is not like i am totally incapable at the gym, its just that i have to take it easy on certain exercises and i sometimes feel shoulder discomfort. Thanks

Max
 
maxxx88 said:
Hey guys, I need some serious advice here. I am 21 and a half years old with no cycles under my belt yet. I am 5'10 ~195lbs. I began working out just before I turned 17 and I was like 5'8 130 back then. From ages 17-19 I went from 130-205 naturally before my string of shoulder dislocations and as a result, torn labrums. Currently I have tears in both of my labrums. For the past year, my weight has reached a standstill. I fluctuate between 190-195. I can never bust through this plateau because it seems like whenever I take one step forward in the weight room, I take 2 steps back the next week because my shoulder starts to hurt and what not. I have ordered Superdrone but I am unsure if I will use it right now and have now considered using Turinabol being that this would be my first cylce. I have a solid foundation as I have been lifting for 4-5 years and have gained a ton naturally (I used to be a stick), but I dont know if I should take the leap and use Turinabol. Its like Ive been in a rut in the gym for the past year and nothing I do can get me out of it. I've tried basically everything. I may have reached my genetic natural limit, who knows? One of my questions in addition to whether or not you guys feel I am ready for this is whether it would be safe to use when I have bad shoulders as it is? I dont really want to go through another injury and end up having to have surgery on one of my shoulders. Sorry for my rant guys, but any advice/wisdom would be much appreciated. Also, it is not like i am totally incapable at the gym, its just that i have to take it easy on certain exercises and i sometimes feel shoulder discomfort. Thanks

Max
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Hey mate,

We wouldn't recommend PH-based supplements to anyone under the age of 21 as this is regarded as a minimum level of physical maturity to run them. You meet this criteria, but have identified other factors that could potentially make the cycle difficult.

You're the best judge mate, the PHs might make your pain threshold reduce slightly so you'll push yourself beyond what your joint is capable of. I've nothing against you running a cycle (as long as it's well planned) but work within your limits :D
 
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Supplement Facts
Serving Size: 1cc (1mL oral syringe)
Servings per container: 125


Amount Per Serving
%DV*

Turinabol
30mg**


(4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1,4-diene-3b, 17b-diol)



*Daily Value



**Daily Value not established




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Other Ingredients:

Liqua-Vade Technology [Distilled water, sorbitan monolaurate, exthoxylated sorbitan trioleate, ethoxylated mono and di-glycerides, medium chain triglycerides, sesame oil, grape spirits, dimethyl isosorbide, phospholipid complex (phosphatidylcholine, lysophosphatidylcholine), ethyl oleate, glyceryl triacetate, tocopheryl acetate, hydroxyproply methylcellulose], juice extract from purple carrot and hibiscus**, malt syrup, natural grape flavor, malic acid, sucralose, trisodium citrate, simethicone, potassium sorbate, sodium benzoate, citric acid†, sucrose†.

** For color
† Used for food grade adhesive on syringe adapter
Contains soy phosphatidylcholine





Recommended Use:

As a dietary supplement take one 1mL - 2mL dose, twice daily, 12 hours between each dose. Shake bottle well before each dose. Take with or without meals.

DO NOT exceed a total of 5mL in a 24 hour period. Do not use this product longer than 6 weeks without 6 weeks off between each cycle. Not following these guidelines may result in liver damage.
WARNING:

Product is not recommended for women, elderly, anyone under the age of 18 or anyone diagnosed with a serious health condition including but not limited to cancer, BPH, epilepsy, depression, diabetes, cardiovascular disease or high blood pressure. Always consult your physician before using this product with any over-the-counter or prescription medication. Discontinue use if any of the following symptoms are noticed; yellowing of the eyes, excessively itchy skin or excessively dark urine.
NOTICE:

No artificial color

This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.



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Bump for a great product at a great price. Anybody looking to log this here on AM?

-John
 
UKStrength said:
Hey mate,

We wouldn't recommend PH-based supplements to anyone under the age of 21 as this is regarded as a minimum level of physical maturity to run them. You meet this criteria, but have identified other factors that could potentially make the cycle difficult.

You're the best judge mate, the PHs might make your pain threshold reduce slightly so you'll push yourself beyond what your joint is capable of. I've nothing against you running a cycle (as long as it's well planned) but work within your limits :D
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thanks man. i have a bottle of superdrone just sitting here and its so tempting to take that instead but i have read from multiple people that it is a bad idea to use SD for your first cycle. i just dont wanna dislocate one of my shoulders again lifting a ridiculous amount of weight. what type of pct would i be looking at for turinabol? i have nolvadex on hand
 
maxxx88 said:
thanks man. i have a bottle of superdrone just sitting here and its so tempting to take that instead but i have read from multiple people that it is a bad idea to use SD for your first cycle. i just dont wanna dislocate one of my shoulders again lifting a ridiculous amount of weight. what type of pct would i be looking at for turinabol? i have nolvadex on hand
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turn is a better 1st cycle. its my fav ph and the 1st one i ever used. PP TRS is a great pct option with 10mg of nolva. or w/o the nolva
 
maxxx88 said:
Hey guys, I need some serious advice here. I am 21 and a half years old with no cycles under my belt yet. I am 5'10 ~195lbs. I began working out just before I turned 17 and I was like 5'8 130 back then. From ages 17-19 I went from 130-205 naturally before my string of shoulder dislocations and as a result, torn labrums. Currently I have tears in both of my labrums. For the past year, my weight has reached a standstill. I fluctuate between 190-195. I can never bust through this plateau because it seems like whenever I take one step forward in the weight room, I take 2 steps back the next week because my shoulder starts to hurt and what not. I have ordered Superdrone but I am unsure if I will use it right now and have now considered using Turinabol being that this would be my first cylce. I have a solid foundation as I have been lifting for 4-5 years and have gained a ton naturally (I used to be a stick), but I dont know if I should take the leap and use Turinabol. Its like Ive been in a rut in the gym for the past year and nothing I do can get me out of it. I've tried basically everything. I may have reached my genetic natural limit, who knows? One of my questions in addition to whether or not you guys feel I am ready for this is whether it would be safe to use when I have bad shoulders as it is? I dont really want to go through another injury and end up having to have surgery on one of my shoulders. Sorry for my rant guys, but any advice/wisdom would be much appreciated. Also, it is not like i am totally incapable at the gym, its just that i have to take it easy on certain exercises and i sometimes feel shoulder discomfort. Thanks

Max
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OK, I've read this three times, and not once have I seen where you CONSULTED A DOCTOR and/or an orthopedic surgeon, which is who you'll be dealing with if you F up your shoulder(s) any further. A torn labrum is nothing to play with. Would you rather miss a month or two and heal, OR tear the labrum completely or severely and either be out indefinitely or possibly have limited use of your extremities? Swallow your pride and listen to what a qualified medical professional tells you...and this is coming from experience. I'm very glad to hear that you waited until 21 to go the PH/DS route, but what do you think is going to happen if you train under the effects of the Turn, which will probably enable you to lift more weight but do nothing to heal your shoulders? :nono: Do the math. Safety first.
 
ex-tightend83 said:
OK, I've read this three times, and not once have I seen where you CONSULTED A DOCTOR and/or an orthopedic surgeon, which is who you'll be dealing with if you F up your shoulder(s) any further. A torn labrum is nothing to play with. Would you rather miss a month or two and heal, OR tear the labrum completely or severely and either be out indefinitely or possibly have limited use of your extremities? Swallow your pride and listen to what a qualified medical professional tells you...and this is coming from experience. I'm very glad to hear that you waited until 21 to go the PH/DS route, but what do you think is going to happen if you train under the effects of the Turn, which will probably enable you to lift more weight but do nothing to heal your shoulders? :nono: Do the math. Safety first.
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Unfortunately labrums do not heal naturally and the only way to have them 100% is to get them surgically repaired. When I first dislocated both of them a year and a half ago, I stopped lifting for 5-6 months. The only real thing you can do is PT and rehab for preventative measures and to strengthen the rotator cuff and shoulder. I have done this for over a year and have had no dislocations in that time. And when you say consult a doctor, do you mean consult a doctor about potential PH use or what? I have been to a renowned orthopedic surgeon who specialty is shoulder injuries several times and have had MRIs done on my shoulder. I actually have another appointment set up in a couple of weeks, maybe I will ask his opinion on the matter.
 
maxxx88 said:
Unfortunately labrums do not heal naturally and the only way to have them 100% is to get them surgically repaired. When I first dislocated both of them a year and a half ago, I stopped lifting for 5-6 months. The only real thing you can do is PT and rehab for preventative measures and to strengthen the rotator cuff and shoulder. I have done this for over a year and have had no dislocations in that time. And when you say consult a doctor, do you mean consult a doctor about potential PH use or what? I have been to a renowned orthopedic surgeon who specialty is shoulder injuries several times and have had MRIs done on my shoulder. I actually have another appointment set up in a couple of weeks, maybe I will ask his opinion on the matter.
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No, actually what I meant was what you just touched on: A doctor/orthopedic surgeon giving you the OK, or at the very least, his opinion on lifitng. Not to sound like I'm on a soapbox, but I don't want to see you injure yourself further. Like you said, labrums don't heal naturally, they have to be surgically repaired. I'm just very concerned. I'd see what happens at your appointment before I went further. Just my $.02.
 
This is a great compound to help add some lean muscle mass and lean you out for summer!! It's never too early to get started. Primordial Performance wants to hear about your success and feedback with our Turinabol!

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Think I would like to experiment with a turinabol, low dose tren stack along with a low cal diet to see if I can lean out... :think:
 
Im goin to run the Turinabol stack soon WITH the Fat Loss Stack from Primordial Performance. Anything else to add im forgetting?
 
Everytime I read this, I get more and more engaged into. I ran CEL Hdrol once before with GREAT success.

I've applied to win one of the three bottles Primordial Performance is giving away, I'm hopeful I win one as I have a nice plan with it.
 
Well, I won it.

It's looking like an interesting product, never tried the LV pathway. Thinking about hitting some Superdrone, but I'll need to sell some of my stash to get the money.
 
fawker said:
Well, I won it.

It's looking like an interesting product, never tried the LV pathway. Thinking about hitting some Superdrone, but I'll need to sell some of my stash to get the money.
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you gunna lot it correct? cant wait to see the results
 
fawker said:
Well, I won it.

It's looking like an interesting product, never tried the LV pathway. Thinking about hitting some Superdrone, but I'll need to sell some of my stash to get the money.
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good sheit money...let us know when you log it to follow along... :)
 
Everybody get in on this, its gonna be a sweet product. Only one bottle
is needed to run a full cycle, unlike hdrol clones from the past. Turinabol also has an extra 5mg of active in it. So basically its more hdrol for less money compared to older hdrol products. Look for some sweet sponsored logs to be popping up soon. Enjoy guys.
 
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-John
 
bulldogz said:
I'd say run dermacrine the whole time as well and/or put the SD at wk3, 4, 5 and 6...I like starting pct right after last dose of SD personally
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from my exp. starting a cycle with SD and either bridging it or running h-drol 2 weeks after solidifies the gains. From my SD/phera bridge i actually am up in strength from when i dropped SD. from many that end with SD, since its so strong, strength declines in pct.

any input on this?
 
We're working on getting this back in stock, everyone. The first run sold VERY well, so more will be on the way soon. I'll post up a tentative date once I know more.

-John
 
qwerty33 said:
from my exp. starting a cycle with SD and either bridging it or running h-drol 2 weeks after solidifies the gains. From my SD/phera bridge i actually am up in strength from when i dropped SD. from many that end with SD, since its so strong, strength declines in pct.

any input on this?
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Everyone is different, but I never lost strength gains from SD while in pct...sometimes people do cuz they decline their calorie intake or just don't train hard as when they were "on"...

PS....Turinabol is back in stock at PP!!!!
 
nice, what dosage of SD have you run / with what other compounds?



bulldogz said:
Everyone is different, but I never lost strength gains from SD while in pct...sometimes people do cuz they decline their calorie intake or just don't train hard as when they were "on"...

PS....Turinabol is back in stock at PP!!!!
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It's back in stock!! Get you some! :fest30:

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qwerty33 said:
nice, what dosage of SD have you run / with what other compounds?
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I like runnin SD with phera for 5wk, bridged at wk3...I've ran SD solo cycles as well...the highest I ever went with SD is 40mg ed for 2wks...piss was and did turn dark brown...never again!

I usually run the SD at 10/20/20...but now getting older, plus I don't recover as quickly as I did a few years ago...I'll run it at 10/10/10...I always put the SD at the last 3wks to start pct right after last dose of SD
 
bulldogz said:
I like runnin SD with phera for 5wk, bridged at wk3...I've ran SD solo cycles as well...the highest I ever went with SD is 40mg ed for 2wks...piss was and did turn dark brown...never again!

I usually run the SD at 10/20/20...but now getting older, plus I don't recover as quickly as I did a few years ago...I'll run it at 10/10/10...I always put the SD at the last 3wks to start pct right after last dose of SD
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wow liver stress for sure. i was on 20 and it made me feel like death. it also did shut me down hard so maby putting it at the end would make sense so that one could bounce back quick from the hard shutdown
 
Just got mine not too long ago. I have a basic question, its simple, but if I dont ask ill regret it. Ive seen logs of folks running it 50/75/75/75 and so on. My question is on how to find the correct dosing conversion. The bottle says: Serving Size 1cc ( 1ml oral syringe ) Servings per container 125. 1ml equals 30mg's. So how do I get the 50 and the 75 whatever and so on? I hope I said this in a way people can understand me.
 
i have another basic question, i just ordered 2 bottles of epistane (cant believe i found it) for the purpose of a cutting cycle. I have never tried Halodrol, as i was too young pre ban, and im not sure what to expect from it. planning a pretty hardcore cut that will start when my epi gets here. good idea or not so good to stack the two? i know the LV is methylated, but is it somehow less stressful on the body? would the two together help or hinder my goal of dropping a shaat load of BF while staying strong as a bull? forgive my ignorance but i just never thought i would run halodrol.
 
qwerty33 said:
wow liver stress for sure. i was on 20 and it made me feel like death. it also did shut me down hard so maby putting it at the end would make sense so that one could bounce back quick from the hard shutdown
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Exactly...for everything you said above that's why I like to start pct right after SD

Def liver stress, but I like to preload 2-3wks before I start this kind of cycle

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Just got mine not too long ago. I have a basic question, its simple, but if I dont ask ill regret it. Ive seen logs of folks running it 50/75/75/75 and so on. My question is on how to find the correct dosing conversion. The bottle says: Serving Size 1cc ( 1ml oral syringe ) Servings per container 125. 1ml equals 30mg's. So how do I get the 50 and the 75 whatever and so on? I hope I said this in a way people can understand me.
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I would guess that .75ml would be 20mg or maybe just dose it 45/60/60/60 and increase if need be... :dunno:

wilsmash4food said:
i have another basic question, i just ordered 2 bottles of epistane (cant believe i found it) for the purpose of a cutting cycle. I have never tried Halodrol, as i was too young pre ban, and im not sure what to expect from it. planning a pretty hardcore cut that will start when my epi gets here. good idea or not so good to stack the two? i know the LV is methylated, but is it somehow less stressful on the body? would the two together help or hinder my goal of dropping a shaat load of BF while staying strong as a bull? forgive my ignorance but i just never thought i would run halodrol.
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I see your logic for the two being good for a hard core cut, but since they are both methylated keep the cycle short and doses low...I would personally run a non-methylated compound with one of the two, something like dermacrine from PP...dermacrine would also help on cutting cycle
 
rulk22 said:
Just got mine not too long ago. I have a basic question, its simple, but if I dont ask ill regret it. Ive seen logs of folks running it 50/75/75/75 and so on. My question is on how to find the correct dosing conversion. The bottle says: Serving Size 1cc ( 1ml oral syringe ) Servings per container 125. 1ml equals 30mg's. So how do I get the 50 and the 75 whatever and so on? I hope I said this in a way people can understand me.
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I recommend you just go 60/90 instead of 50/75
most do 50/75 because their halo is capped in 25mg capsules.
Im running a log on mine at 60/90 right now.
Good luck with it, your gonna love it
 
qwerty33 said:
hey what do you think about

Turinabol wk 3ml wk 1-6
SD 10mg wk 1-4
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I don't advise stacking methyl compounds; especially when superdrol is one of them. Both of these will provide very good results independently. :)

-John
 
Trauma1 said:
It's back in stock!! Get you some! :fest30:

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qwerty33 said:
what does 60/90 mean? i know it mg but
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most people go 50mg for a week then 75mg for the rest, but with turinabol-lv theres enough servings in 1 bottle to go 60mg day 1, then 90mg through the end of week 6. Thats a whole bottle and perfect cycle.
 
Interesting. Ill consider it, but im goin to do my homework.
 
jherman08 said:
most people go 50mg for a week then 75mg for the rest, but with turinabol-lv theres enough servings in 1 bottle to go 60mg day 1, then 90mg through the end of week 6. Thats a whole bottle and perfect cycle.
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exactly. thats how i would dose it and plan on it for summer. btw great job on the log bro
 
qwerty33 said:
exactly. thats how i would dose it and plan on it for summer. btw great job on the log bro
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thanks its gonna look a lot better starting tomorrow. And maybe my early effects on Turinabol are due to running it at 90mgs straight, compared to 50mg for a week or two followed by 75mgs for 4 weeks like most halodrol logs
 
I love this stuff. It is def a potent DS. I dont think anyone will regret running this is their diet and training r in line.
 
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