IS IT PROLACTIN?
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jbray
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i have some cycles under my belt, maybe im just more proned to it? any ideas. the
hdrol,sdrol,pplex,tren(low dose 10mgs) and not all at the same time. i took sdrol at 25 mgs with pplex at 25mgs for a period of 4 weeks. for hdrol i was 75 mgs for how ever many the math comes out to amount of pills in a bottle didvide by 3 pills a day. tren was a kick start for hdrol 10mgs @ 4 weeks.
pct was always good, with tamox,stoked,and liver protectors.
hdrol,sdrol,pplex,tren(low dose 10mgs) and not all at the same time. i took sdrol at 25 mgs with pplex at 25mgs for a period of 4 weeks. for hdrol i was 75 mgs for how ever many the math comes out to amount of pills in a bottle didvide by 3 pills a day. tren was a kick start for hdrol 10mgs @ 4 weeks.
pct was always good, with tamox,stoked,and liver protectors.
celc5
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I vote for the superdrol/pheraplex combo as the cause. That wasn't a smart choice, but that's water under the bridge at this point.
My personal opinion is that an AI is probably your only legal route to trying to fix this on your own. The other route is anti-prolactin drugs that you can find as research chemicals (which we cannot discuss on this board) or have them prescribed by your physician.
IMO because of the profound "leaking" that you are experiencing, I would go to the doc. I'd say "I took supplements that I now know I shouldn't have. These are my symptoms." The doc will lecture you (take it like a man and say "yessir"). And then he'll probably give you the prescription that you need to solve your problem.
My personal opinion is that an AI is probably your only legal route to trying to fix this on your own. The other route is anti-prolactin drugs that you can find as research chemicals (which we cannot discuss on this board) or have them prescribed by your physician.
IMO because of the profound "leaking" that you are experiencing, I would go to the doc. I'd say "I took supplements that I now know I shouldn't have. These are my symptoms." The doc will lecture you (take it like a man and say "yessir"). And then he'll probably give you the prescription that you need to solve your problem.
wastedwhiteboy2
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I think vitamin B6 helps to lower prolactin too.
celc5
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There are a lot of B6 theories that suggest it may help with elevated prolactin. None of those theories made B6 have any effect for me :laugh:
As I said before, formestane is what worked for me. The weird thing is that everyone responds differently to different AIs. For example, ATDs have no effect on my symptoms, while 6oxo and 6bromo actually irritate it. At the same time, others prefer the ones that don't work for me... good luck trouble shooting, it can be frustrating :run:
As I said before, formestane is what worked for me. The weird thing is that everyone responds differently to different AIs. For example, ATDs have no effect on my symptoms, while 6oxo and 6bromo actually irritate it. At the same time, others prefer the ones that don't work for me... good luck trouble shooting, it can be frustrating :run:
celc5
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that's weird... nothin in the ingredient profile makes me think it should. But this is the type of thing I was talkin about, you never know what can cause it to flare up now that you have it... wind changes direction, leap year, Saints win the SB, all that can affect it :laugh:
matthias7
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Celc's advice is solid in most of his posts. In this case it looks even more solid than normal, ignore at your peril.
Natural products which MIGHT help .. Ginkgo biloba (you'd need it by the bucket load) Stoked (resveratrol) or formestane. Eric (PP) has a top thread on PCT - you've enough cycles to know all this stuff.
Celc's advice:
Go straight to prescription strength.
Celc's assumption:
That the person knows what they are doing.
My advice:
1. Follow Celc's advice
2. Follow advice 1.
3. Optional, ask for a test and estrogen (E1, E2 that sort thing) screen. If insurance is an issue (US can be) you can get the screen done via salvia cheaply.
4. Don't rely on dopamine (ldopa) and B6, its uncertain at best. Dopamine responses are very variable in estrogen manipulation. You'd need this by bucket loads in any case.
5. Do reread the PCT logs.
Natural products which MIGHT help .. Ginkgo biloba (you'd need it by the bucket load) Stoked (resveratrol) or formestane. Eric (PP) has a top thread on PCT - you've enough cycles to know all this stuff.
Celc's advice:
Go straight to prescription strength.
Celc's assumption:
That the person knows what they are doing.
My advice:
1. Follow Celc's advice
2. Follow advice 1.
3. Optional, ask for a test and estrogen (E1, E2 that sort thing) screen. If insurance is an issue (US can be) you can get the screen done via salvia cheaply.
4. Don't rely on dopamine (ldopa) and B6, its uncertain at best. Dopamine responses are very variable in estrogen manipulation. You'd need this by bucket loads in any case.
5. Do reread the PCT logs.
celc5
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I get ignored all the time :twak: Ha ha
Seriously though, I appreciate your public vote of confidence.
It's much appreciated and humbling :cheers:
celc5
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directly? or indirectly?
andrew732
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Directly, 6bromo is VERY similar to bromocriptone.
jbray
Banned
sorry celc5 if i came off the wrong way as if i were ignoring you.....thats was not how i thought it would be viewed, your advise is the best in no doubt but also im trying to get some other answers and opinions as well all you guys have been very straight forward with me. the l-dopa is a no go for me as seeing that you need a large quantity and the b-6 is already in my multi v so theres no need to add more and the 6-bromo is deffinatly worth a try to run along in my pct with tamox and stoked. i was recently told that choosing a different serm would be wise.
thanks to all will be repped and talked highly about.
thanks to all will be repped and talked highly about.
celc5
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No way brotha, I was completely joking and that most definately was NOT directed at you! I have an aggressive sense of humor and sometimes I forget I'm typing on the internet rather than in person. I never felt ignored whatsoever and I think you're doing a good job of exercising all of your options. There's tons of good info on these boards, most of which is not congruent with my knucklehead opinion :stooges:
jbray
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actually everyone in this thread that has typed somthing for advice for me i noticed takes a good amount of quality time out of there day to help us (half as* researchers) out. thanks to all that has given advice or atleast attempted to. ive been told/given advice by a very helpful member to go with clomid and there are very strong back up fact pointing me to get some clomid. i havent noticed the lactation lately, its use happens if its cold out the me nipples are already kind of hard and aggitated. im actually going to try to get a express shipment of clomid,6-bromo and some other small supps later tonight. ill have to do full research on all of this but right now i have to hit up the gym. thanks to all.
celc5
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Fill us in on how the clomid would help with the prolactin symptoms? It's most popular in the context of helping to restore libido and testicular mass in post cycle therapy :think:
You should know right away whether the bromo helps or not. I'm talking like within 2-3 days. That's how long it takes formestane to start chopping away at my symptoms and that's how long it takes bromo to make my nipples catch fire and aggravate my lump :laugh: Keep in mind, there's quite a few people who have reported good results with bromo, so my response in that realm might not be typical. Just keep it in mind while assessing your response.
You should know right away whether the bromo helps or not. I'm talking like within 2-3 days. That's how long it takes formestane to start chopping away at my symptoms and that's how long it takes bromo to make my nipples catch fire and aggravate my lump :laugh: Keep in mind, there's quite a few people who have reported good results with bromo, so my response in that realm might not be typical. Just keep it in mind while assessing your response.
thumpjr
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Ive got in my left nip. No fluid, just puffy and sore. Im starting on week 2 of P5P and 1-Carboxy. No big noticeable difference yet. It seemed like I had a little relief the other day and then....it got irritated by a ferocious tittie twister from the GF. Damn V-day.
Anywho...i got it from taking an OTC Tren product. I will update this thread if p5p/1-carboxy takes care of the problem.
Anywho...i got it from taking an OTC Tren product. I will update this thread if p5p/1-carboxy takes care of the problem.
celc5
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You can tell who's been around the block trying to deal with these problems. I agree with most of what's in your post.
jbray
Banned
deff keep us updated and good luck
great post, i hope all is good for you. i never realised how difficult it is to maintain this issue.im not sure when i had my first sign of pro-L.repped
not alot of people do, look how i was caught blinsided.
nice, i got some coming in to. i will for sure get p-5-p (where can i buy it from) i had a problem finding it a local vita store
i hope p-5-p helps because i will be buying some when i find it.:thanks:
thumpjr
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I got mine from nutra planet. Im currently running it 200mgs/ED planning to start tapering down. Its not doing a whole lot for me to be honest, but its an OTC approach so it may take longer. I did just add in adex since I had it on hand. I might use a low dose of torem (serm) towards the end of the adex. I will try to keep you posted to see if it helps.
celc5
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I can't vouch for whether that will work or not... but I really do like the theory of transitioning from AI to serm in this realm.
thumpjr
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Im not gonna make a long run on it. maybe just two weeks since my case is not severe. Im gonna taper rather gradually and overlap the two quite a bit.
Will keep you updated.
matthias7
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I learn something new each and everyday...