Poll: 250 mg test/decca for 10 wks. or 500mg for 5

What's the best use of 2 10ml. 250mg/ml bottles of test/decca?

  • 250/250 for 10 weeks

    Votes: 2 15.4%

  • 500/500 for 5 weeks

    Votes: 3 23.1%

  • Get more numbnuts!

    Votes: 8 61.5%
  • Total voters
    13
Gizmacho

Gizmacho

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Age: 29
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 224
BF: 11%
Year training: off-and-on for 8, seriously for 8 mos.
PH cycles, 1 h-drol, 1 epistane.

I plan to do a couple more PH cycles during this next year, taking all precautions and completing PCTs. But for my own knowledge, for a first cycle is it better to do a 10 week cycle of 250 mg. test/ 250 decca, or 500/500 for 5? It's a situation brought about by two hypothetical bottles, a 10ml 250mg/ml of each.

Or, should one just get more? And, what would be an optimal cycle? Hypothetically, I would wait a year and plan on hitting 235-240 before pinning.

Thanks for chiming in!
 
*bump*

Okay, so I upgraded to two 20ml bottles @ 250mg/ml.

Is it better to do 500mg for 10wks. or 400mg for 13?
Thanks for your sensei-like tutelage oh AM iron masters.
 
400 for 14, IMO...though you didn't say which ester.
 
Gizmacho said:
My fault, Testosterone Enanthate.
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Will you be kickstarting with an oral?

Either way, 10 weeks of E is not long enough. Go for 13.
 
I'll be doing test & deca. By an oral, do you mean Winny or a PH? I have a few bottles of super laying around with a cabinet of other PH's like tren, epi, h-drol...

I guess I went a little ape s hit when everything went on sale for like 75% off right before the ban.
 
Gizmacho said:
I'll be doing test & deca. By an oral, do you mean Winny or a PH? I have a few bottles of super laying around with a cabinet of other PH's like tren, epi, h-drol...

I guess I went a little ape s hit when everything went on sale for like 75% off right before the ban.
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Superdrol, if you are careful, is an excellent kickstart. I wouldn't use Tren as you are using Deca.

Epi would work, too, for a strength boost, and to keep you leaned.
 
I've done tons of research on AAS and PH's individually, but I haven't found much on mixing the two. I see the logic, plainly it's better to start gaining immediately rather than waiting 2 weeks for the AAS to kick in.

Both SD products I have are stacks. One is a SD & Tren stack, and the other is a SD, P-Plex, Halo stack. So Epi would be a better choice based on what I have, 5 bottles or so. I'm on a 3-week cycle right now, and my body's been very receptive to it. Is winstrol a fast-acting AAS that would kick an epi cycle into high gear? I mean, could I stack winny and epi for say, three weeks, to ignite a 14-week test-e/decca cycle? I need to do more research on the use of winny in cycles, that for sure.
 
Winstrol is methylated, so it's not wise to stack it with another methyl. However, it would be a nice closer after you've finished the Epi at week 4, to kick it in about week 10 to start countering the bloat from Test.
 
dsade - good ideas. From my experience, the Epi didn't kick in until the beginning of the 2nd week, so I think I would plan on starting it a week before the first pin and running it until the AAS came on full force, anywhere from 2-3 weeks from my understanding.

Then a solid 14-week test/deca cycle @ 400mg/week each.

Now, when it comes to the finish of the cycle, what would be the benefit of winny over something like clen? Clen is non-methylated but helps cut down on some of the water retention. I guess I'm asking, does the winny have other synergistic chemistry with the AAS and offer additional benefits that we haven't mentioned? I've heard it's a cutting and hardening compound, so does it "harden" gains made on cycle and make them more permanent? And, what's the better form for an end-of-cycle wrap-up? Injectable or oral?
 
Gizmacho said:
Now, when it comes to the finish of the cycle, what would be the benefit of winny over something like clen? Clen is non-methylated but helps cut down on some of the water retention. I guess I'm asking, does the winny have other synergistic chemistry with the AAS and offer additional benefits that we haven't mentioned? I've heard it's a cutting and hardening compound, so does it "harden" gains made on cycle and make them more permanent? And, what's the better form for an end-of-cycle wrap-up? Injectable or oral?
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After just a little research, I admit that was a stupid question.

I'll start with epi and finish with Winny and PCT with Nolva. I'm planning on doing it next winter, when I'll be wearing big concealing clothes for at least 4 months. I have a lot of goals to accomplish before pinning though. I won't pin 'til I bench 305, squat 375, and dead lift 455. That's about a 50 lb. gain on bench and deads and about a 100 lb. gain on squats. According to the weightlifting performance standards, I'll be at or near the advanced performance levels before starting. Thanks for your input guys. I'll let you know when the cycle kicks off.:usa2:
 
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