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wesGA87

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age: 22
height: 5'9''
weight: 183
years training: 6

I have a bottle of mdrol that i plan to run at 20/20/30/20 and have novedex xt and CEL's formestane. Which of the post cycles are best or should i use both?
any feedback is great. thanks
 
wesGA87 said:
stats
age: 22
height: 5'9''
weight: 183
years training: 6

I have a bottle of mdrol that i plan to run at 20/20/30/20 and have novedex xt and CEL's formestane. Which of the post cycles are best or should i use both?
any feedback is great. thanks
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You should use a Serm for that cycle.
 
like clomid or tamox.? i wanted to have an OTC post cycle is what i was going for. would be easier to drop the mdrol dosage to 20/20/20/20 instead of ramping it up to 30?
 
Mikey851 said:
You should use a Serm for that cycle.
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not only that but do a great deal of SEARCHING, as it appears that you do not have near as much knowledge as you should prior to starting any kind of anabolic. M-drol is never recommended as a beginner cycle. do you have any type of cycle support supps? how about a pct?

use the research tool and study up on all of this stuff before you even open the bottle. you may realize that M-drol really isnt even a PH you should be using...
 
i have cycle support from CEL also. wish i would have put all this in the first post. i have your standard stuff too like protein, creatine and pre workout supps. those will be used during post cycle. i have not even received the bottle in the mail. i dont plan on starting for another 3 weeks.
 
wesGA87 said:
i have cycle support from CEL also. wish i would have put all this in the first post. i have your standard stuff too like protein, creatine and pre workout supps. those will be used during post cycle. i have not even received the bottle in the mail. i dont plan on starting for another 3 weeks.
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Well that is good that you have cycle support. If you insist on using Mdrol I would say that a SERM is a must or you will lose all of your gains. It shuts you down quick and hard. Maybe you could try Epi or similar first and then step up to Mdrol; although I would still recommend a SERM with Epi.
 
my room-mate has about 40-45 25mg clomid tabs. so the cycle would look like...
mdol 10/20/20/20
clomid 50/50/25/25
formestane for the first 2 weeks of PCT
along with the rest of my support supps.
 
I would save the mdrol and pick another compound for you first. Especially if you want OTC PCT. Go with Estane or protodrol or even some hdrol. I have ran several cycles and still havent messed with Mdrol. Potent and harsh stuff!!!
 
I would also say save the mdrol for your 2nd or even 3rd cycle. But in all likeliness you will use it 1st. Consider a pulse or low dose protocol. There is a log here of 5mg ED, the guy gained 7 lbs- I think it was over 30 days dosed 1st thing in the morning.

you can pulse it 3 days a week for 2 weeks @ 10-20mg take 2 weeks off with pct and go back on 2 weeks finishing with 4 weeks of pct.

And if you insist on a standard protocol 10/10/10 or 10/10/20 or 10/20/20 should be plenty

thanks Tan
 
johnnyjuice said:
the Clomid dose you have set up looks good but,i would still save the m-drol for a future cycle.
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agreed, the harsh side effects and shutdown m-drol causes are not a cakewalk for someone who is only on their first cycle. like everyone else is recommending, i would start with a far milder PH, and save the M-drol for your next cycle once you have that first experience under your belt.

the clomid dosing looks good though, however do not start dosing your formestane until the third week of pct. the first 2 weeks of pct should be solely for your nolva/clomid and a natty test booster, with the addition of formestane and a cortisol blocker starting in week 3. you also need to remember that when you start the formestane in week 3 the dose should be on the higher end, and to decrease the dose each following week until the end of pct.
 
I have def. looked more into the e-stane and h-drol, im more focused on size gains versus strength. Which would yall prefer? the e-stane looks good and is pretty cheap, could i OTC on this one and have the clomid as a back up. or go ahead and use it...
 
wesGA87 said:
I have def. looked more into the e-stane and h-drol, im more focused on size gains versus strength. Which would yall prefer?
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I have not personally ran either one. I have run Pmag and it is very similar to Hdrol. I gained 15lbs (Kept 10lbs) on a 5 week Pmag cycle dosed exactly like Hdrol. Also look into The One, you will find alot of reviews on it; it is discontinued now but CEL D-Plex is the same compound.
 
ok and i still want some info on the OTC post cycle...thanks ill look into it too. but Hdrol is looking pretty good about now.
 
I would go with Hdrol or epi. Both are fairly mild, produce great strength and can be used for size, cut or recomp depending on your diet and routine. Both could go with an otc. I would keep around 4 weeks for your first. For otc look into reversitol, hypertest and lean extreme. There are similiar compounds that work. Those are what I used for my last Protodrol cycle and worked well so they are fresh on the brain. I would still keep a SERM on hand just in case. Also, there are few products I would go OTC on and these are 2 of them. Good luck and please dont be stupid.
 
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