testopro ,libido or viagra
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MadeInCanada
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I've never taken testopro, but Im going to assume that it just enhances libido. The only way your going to get a viagara or cialis effect is through a supplement that inhibits PD5 cells. And TestoPro doesn't do that.
andrew732
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That would be something along the lines of ICARRIN, Stoked, Drive, RPM, DTHC are all great products for a viagra effect.
luclyluciano
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MadeInCanada
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I had no idea any Test Boosters would give a viagara effect.
John Smeton
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I used stoked for two months and my libido has been sky high on the stuff. it is my favorite libido supplement by far as far as herbal type stuff. In my opinion from my research it is the 40 % Icariian that is causing the big libido boost.
The only herbal that has come close is maca and this if I remember(it has been almost 4 years now since Ive used maca) gave me bigger loads and an shivering feeling when I came. totally different effect than stoked stoked keeps me rock hard.
*remember this is not when I only have 4 hours sleep this is when i am getting good sleep. Not much helps me when i do not sleep right like I had to do today because of a business meeting in another city. My point is make sure you are refreshed and sleep is good.
Yeah I know it is obvious the basics comes first I think some people over look them.
The only herbal that has come close is maca and this if I remember(it has been almost 4 years now since Ive used maca) gave me bigger loads and an shivering feeling when I came. totally different effect than stoked stoked keeps me rock hard.
*remember this is not when I only have 4 hours sleep this is when i am getting good sleep. Not much helps me when i do not sleep right like I had to do today because of a business meeting in another city. My point is make sure you are refreshed and sleep is good.
Yeah I know it is obvious the basics comes first I think some people over look them.
UNCnate
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Icariin has a PDE-5 inhibiting effect. Great for libido.
John Smeton
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it works in 30-60 minutes. i had terrible headache and snuffy nose afterward for 24 hours or so. i would only use if it your last option if you know what i mean
same with yohimbe products hate that yohimbe feeling
MadeInCanada
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Where can I find ICARRIN? Sounds great. I usually buy my Tadalfil in liquid form because its cheap, but this stuff sounds cool.
warsteiner
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The original Aspire 36 was great but that was due to the fact it contained viagra. It was removed from sale and the new Aspire is pretty weak.
UNCnate
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STOKED has a good dose.
marco wolf
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A testofen/iicarin stack works wonders for me, as far as herbs go. Add some fenugreek at bedtime and you're all set.
Am: testofen/iicarin/mucuna pruriens
Pm: testofen/iicarin
Bedtime: fenugreek/mucuna pruriens
Am: testofen/iicarin/mucuna pruriens
Pm: testofen/iicarin
Bedtime: fenugreek/mucuna pruriens
MacTech
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Lack of libido is NOT erectile dysfunction.
MadeInCanada
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I think some of you have a misunderstanding on what libido is. Or Im way off base here.
Libido is the mental desire.
While erectile dysfunction is the ability to get a solid erection and maintain it.
You can have full libido and all the mental desire, but if you have erectile disfunction, it doesn't matter because your penis is not going up without some trouble.
All these herbs I believe are just to increase your desire for sex. But you need a PD5 inhibitor to help with getting a better, more solid erection (viagara,cialis,levitra).
When I take a libido booster, my desire for sex goes up, but that doesnt solve ED. However when I take a PD5 inhibitor, I get hard from the damn wind just blowing.
Libido boosters increase the desire for sex. PD5 Inhibitors allow your penis to get a full erection without difficulty.
marco wolf
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I'm 50. The stack I mentioned above gives me harder erections, not just the desire. I can't compare it to viagara because I've never used it, but I'd assume that it doesn't work as well. But believe me, the stack I mentioned above is an all-around sexual stack that works for this 50 year old man.
MacTech
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Thanks for the clarification. Hopefully others will read it as all too often people get the two mixed up or assume it's the same thing.
Rodja
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Research has suggested that Icariin is both a PDE5 inhibitor and is a testosterone mimetic.
MadeInCanada
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The only reason I say this is because when I was shutdown on my test production awhile ago from a cycle, I went through like a month of ED (being able to maintain).
I took all the libido products in the world and it helped with the desire, and inconsistently with the hardness of the erection. But when I took a cialis (half dose), I was a walking erection for a solid 36 hours. Now I love the stuff and I use it all the time.
I'm definitely going to try this icarrin stuff and Ill let you know how it compares to a prescription PD5 inhibitor like Viagara or Cialis. So far, nothing has even come close.
I took all the libido products in the world and it helped with the desire, and inconsistently with the hardness of the erection. But when I took a cialis (half dose), I was a walking erection for a solid 36 hours. Now I love the stuff and I use it all the time.
I'm definitely going to try this icarrin stuff and Ill let you know how it compares to a prescription PD5 inhibitor like Viagara or Cialis. So far, nothing has even come close.
MadeInCanada
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... ok nevermind,
I just read that Icarrin IS Horny Goat Weed?
If that's true, then although your stacks may work well.. don't kid yourself.
That doesn't compare to a real PD5 inhibitor.
I just read that Icarrin IS Horny Goat Weed?
If that's true, then although your stacks may work well.. don't kid yourself.
That doesn't compare to a real PD5 inhibitor.
Rodja
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Most PCTs kill the lipids and your estrogen. Most people do not realize how important estrogen is to libido.
Rodja
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Different extracts produce much different results. The **** in a gas station is not even close to the same quality.
On a side note, you really like to play with a lot of drugs. Living close to the border is not helping you.
marco wolf
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Your problems were due to AAS use, and at your age, recovery will usually come in due time.
I doubt anything natural is going to compare to a drug. Here's my concern. You're fairly young and I wouldn't want you to "rely" on a drug like cialis. Nobody is certain of what long term effects of chronic use could be.
Anyway, I asked a rhetorical question above, but after reading it, it seems kind of insensitive, so I deleted it.
marco wolf
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I am well aware of this. However, I am over twice your age and have never needed to use the drugs you've used, either.
MacTech
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Too much estrogen is bad for it too.
Without an AI or some form of estrogen inhibitor, I would rather watch the Lifetime for women channel than have sex.
Rodja
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You missed the point of that post. I'm well aware that either extreme is not optimal, but SERMs (especially Nolva) and AIs kill both your estrogen and lipids. There is an optimal range of both T and E and, at his age, playing with AIs will most likely shut him down too much and, therefore, kill his libido.
Dath
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How would you guys compare the 20% icariin extract vs the 50% icariin extract at Nutraplanet?
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From reading some of the reviews it sounds like the 20% extract might actually be better which leads me to believe that there are more goodies in HGW besides icariin that gives the increase in libido/test.
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From reading some of the reviews it sounds like the 20% extract might actually be better which leads me to believe that there are more goodies in HGW besides icariin that gives the increase in libido/test.
UNCnate
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No, its not?
Not sure what youre getting at.
Icariin is a PDE-5 inhibitor as well as a testosterone mimetic.
It will increase libido, while addressing erectile dysfunction. Its a win/win.
MacTech
Member
Too often I see where people think raising their libido is to cure an ED problem.
Libido is the desire for sex. That's what I am getting at. One can have a high libido but have ED and the other way around.
MadeInCanada
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MacTech
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Yeah, it ain't rocket science.
MadeInCanada
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I agree. I'm sure they both work well. I've just had much more success with a subscription that was given to me by an endocrinologist (cialis).
So no Rodja, I do not enjoy "playing" with drugs. During my shutdown period I was prescribed Tadalfil. I still enjoy using the stuff even though I don't need to rely on it, but it's not an everyday thing if thats what you were getting at.
Rodja
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Please, explain to me how using AAS followed by SERMs and AIs and then PDE5 inhibitors is not playing with many classes of drugs? Prescribed or not, you're playing with a lot and it is not a good idea to be using all of these drugs consecutively. Conversely, it makes no sense to be using these drugs and to make numerous threads about your concern for your heart, gyno, etc.
marco wolf
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Here's the problem, MIC. There are people on here trying to help you get healthy, but you're just looking for the next quick-fix.
thebigt
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you know the old saying 'youth is wasted on the young', lol.
MadeInCanada
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I feel I don't mess with drugs anymore then the next person on this forum. Maybe it seems more exaggerated to you because I continuously use this site for guidance and for asking questions.
Here's my past year of the drug abuse you're accusing me of.
1. PH of an SD clone for half a month in August. (2-3 weeks).
2. Letrozole cycle to kill some gyno in November (4-5 weeks).
... and then you can add maybe 15 sessions of sex I had that I used cialis.
I spent the previous 5 months before that playing pro hockey so I wasn't under anything except for weight gainer to make up for calories I was burning.
Do I look for shortcuts? Yes, with moderation. Just like every other person who has used an AAS.
MadeInCanada
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Ive spent time in the WSHL, and then playing Minor Pro in the Central Hockey League
John Smeton
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minor pro is not pro. my grandfather who died this year (90 years old)played minor pro(and tried out for the Brooklyn Dodgers and Washington senators[a team no more]) but I can not brag and say he actually made it pro. he got close
did you play for a professional hockey team or was it triple a, double a and down leagues?
(I do not know if hockey has triple a and down , I know baseball used to or does)
MadeInCanada
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Baseball is alot different then Hockey.
Yes minor pro is pro. I got paid a salary to play hockey and supported myself through the earnings I made through the team.
I spent my youth playing AAA hockey, then I played Jr A in Colorado, and then I went on to sign a deal with a minor professional team.
I am a canadian citizen but I am living in the United States under a Professional Athlete Visa, meaning I am allowed to earn a salary as an athlete. Which I did.
MadeInCanada
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Yea thats where I played my Jr A career. Colorado is in the Mid-West Conference though and Phoenix is in the Western Conference.
Same league, but we never played each other. I take it your from Arizona?
AZMIDLYF
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Yes I am. My son plays hockey and is being looked at by some USHL teams. We can only hope! This spring will be the combines.
Looks like you need to add some more calories to your diet MIC. With your activity level you really have to shove the groceries down to gain weight. Don't rely on weight gainers for nutrition. Eat big to get big bubba!!
Looks like you need to add some more calories to your diet MIC. With your activity level you really have to shove the groceries down to gain weight. Don't rely on weight gainers for nutrition. Eat big to get big bubba!!
John Smeton
Legend
That is great. why did you quit hockey?
I feel a sense of accomplishment for playing basketball on a school team and skateboarding in high school(even though I was not on a team and might be considered a bit underground i did something positive with it). boxing a little bit and the little sports I played as a kid and now did my first bodybuilding show last year.Sports really do raise self esteem and help with self confidence.
There is a guy name Dusty Hanshaw I think he was a professional hockey player at some point. he played hockey for sure. he bodybuilds now and I would not be surprised if he gets his ifbb card soon.
luclyluciano
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Sorry to bring this up Guys....this is not a sports thread. This is Highjacking and should punished by life in prison:bryce::bryce:....LOL!
UKStrength
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I've yet to try Stoked, but it's on my list of test boosters to try 
I can vouch for Testofen based testosterone boosters being very effective for libido, Invalid Link Removed and testopro are both excellent choices in this regard.
Invalid Link Removed is also excellent for erectile strength, ejaculatory volume, libido and sensitivity. Plenty of guys on here have found it to be excellent in both the topical and new Liqua-Vade forms
I can vouch for Testofen based testosterone boosters being very effective for libido, Invalid Link Removed and testopro are both excellent choices in this regard.
Invalid Link Removed is also excellent for erectile strength, ejaculatory volume, libido and sensitivity. Plenty of guys on here have found it to be excellent in both the topical and new Liqua-Vade forms