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cassimus

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I was needing some outside info on what would be a good starter to get me about 10 lean/dry lbs whether it be juice or PH. I have taken PH in the past and it really didnt give me the results i was looking for i am 5'10 and about 175 and am trying to keep a slim build but gain muscle. A friend of mine has given me a suggestion of a test/win cycle but what is the educated opinion?

I have a pretty good lean diet along with 5 years of lifting.
 
ive never heard of adex is it otc or black market? with a test/ win cycle would keeping the doses down keep me from looking roided out ?
 
ive never heard of adex is it otc or black market? with a test/ win cycle would keeping the doses down keep me from looking roided out ?

run it like its supposed to be run. if u want to do steroids but not look like u do steroids....then steroids arent for u.

minimizing dosages will basically yield u no gains but still leaves u with a chance of possible side effects.

arimidex (a-dex) is more of a "grey area" substance. while u need a presciption to obtain it, u can still get it for "research purposes only" without a prescription
 
I was needing some outside info on what would be a good starter to get me about 10 lean/dry lbs whether it be juice or PH. I have taken PH in the past and it really didnt give me the results i was looking for i am 5'10 and about 175 and am trying to keep a slim build but gain muscle. A friend of mine has given me a suggestion of a test/win cycle but what is the educated opinion?

I have a pretty good lean diet along with 5 years of lifting.

P-mag
50/50/50/50
cycle assist 2 weeks before, throughout the cycle, and during pct
nolva on hand

Pct
inhibit e
75/50/50/25
pct assist 2 weeks into pct
nolva on hand
 
the reason for not wanting to look roided out is because of my job i want to be cut and buff but i dont wanna blow up like some of my buddies have in the past
 
Like I said, arimidex for controlling water bloat, use a long ester test, like test-e or c and dont kickstart it with an oral. The gains wont come until week 4 and they will be gradual from there... And of course there is the diet, you dont want to gain too much, then keep the cals at maintenance or slightly below...
 
Like I said, arimidex for controlling water bloat, use a long ester test, like test-e or c and dont kickstart it with an oral. The gains wont come until week 4 and they will be gradual from there... And of course there is the diet, you dont want to gain too much, then keep the cals at maintenance or slightly below...

so with a clean high protein low cal diet i should acheive nice gains with out the complete blowing up package......so teste+win+adex or just teste+adex? and for 4,6,8 week cycle......i do have a bottle of the serm nolv that i plan to pct along with some milk thistle
 
Imo for 5-10lbs it is not necessary at all to stack all those compounds. Run a OTC AI to keep water weight down + 6 weeks of testosterone propionate. That should do it. Propionate as you might know does not add as much water as enanthate does.

If you want to stack something test prop and masteron is an awesome stack that provides lean and hard muscles.
 
Don't run over-the-counter **** while on cycle, it's available without a prescription for a reason= it's not real.
Anastrozole is not that hard to find. And cheap
 
I'm not really sure what you mean. Are you saying that there is no OTC AI that actually works? If so I'll have to disagree. Sorry if I got you wrong?
 
Yes, I am saying that there is not a true aromatase inhibitor for sale in America without a prescription.
The only way to get a prescription is if you are a woman with breast cancer or post menopausal high estrogen levels.
When I said anastrozole is not that hard to find, I meant it can be found...research wink wink.
anastrozole is the name of the chemical that is arimadex.
 
Yes, I am saying that there is not a true aromatase inhibitor for sale in America without a prescription.
The only way to get a prescription is if you are a woman with breast cancer or post menopausal high estrogen levels.
When I said anastrozole is not that hard to find, I meant it can be found...research wink wink.
anastrozole is the name of the chemical that is arimadex.

i have the prescription serm not the otc shiot .....wow so lots of mixed opintions on test p or test e and what should be ran with it hmm conclusion maybe
 
run it like its supposed to be run. if u want to do steroids but not look like u do steroids....then steroids arent for u.
minimizing dosages will basically yield u no gains but still leaves u with a chance of possible side effects.

arimidex (a-dex) is more of a "grey area" substance. while u need a presciption to obtain it, u can still get it for "research purposes only" without a prescription


great thing to say. wish i had thought of it.
 
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