albuterol + epistane questions

JudoJosh

JudoJosh

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So the original plan was to pulse epi and run 2 cycles of clen but I kinda shy'd away from that idea. Then I read an interestng article on albuterol sulfate and it compared it to clen and said it was less harsh then clen and still had great fat loss too. So I became intreseted to see what you guys thought about this?

Think I can pulse a bottle of havoc and run 2 cycles of albuterol and get some good recomp going on?

What would be the suggested dosing of albuterol?

what kind of PCT would I need to put together for this run,
would clomid, PCS, 11-oxo(at 3 a day for cort control) sound good enough?

Thanks
 
for reference here is the cycle I wanted to mimic

Epi pulse MWF

week 1 Epi 20/30/30 mg, Clen 40/40/60/60/80/80/100
week 2 Epi 30/30/40 mg, Clen 100/100/100/120/120/120/120
week 3 Epi 40 mg
week 4 Epi 40 mg
week 5 Epi 40 mg, Clen 40/40/60/60/80/80/100
week 6 Epi 50 mg, Clen 100/100/100/120/120/120/120
week 7 Epi 50 mg
week 8 Epi 60 mg
week 9 nolva as needed, Clen 40/40/60/60/80/80/100
week 10 nolva as needed, Clen 100/100/100/120/120/120/120
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so would I just be able to replace the clen with albuterol at the same doses and get good fat loss results?

thanks again
 
Epistane and clenbuterol are two of my favorite compounds. Using them simultaneously isn't the smartest option. Its understandable in wanting to gain muscle and lean down, but its harsh on your body to do both at once. Run clen before you do Epi if you MUST run Clen. I would advise against running Clen after epi at the risk of losing gains while your body is readjusting its natural test production.
 
BTW im at the end of my Epi cycle, it was freaking awsome. Ran it at 20/30/30/40 and put on 10 Lbs of dry gains after 24 days. Up to 175 and counting
 
No...the dosages are completely different between Clen and Albuterol. Albuterol you want to start at around 4 mg. as a single dose and work up to 4 mg. x 3/day--or depending on how your Albuterol is dosed--3 mg. x 4/day. Albuterol has a very short half-life; as in just several hours.

Crowbar
 
crowbar46 said:
No...the dosages are completely different between Clen and Albuterol. Albuterol you want to start at around 4 mg. as a single dose and work up to 4 mg. x 3/day--or depending on how your Albuterol is dosed--3 mg. x 4/day. Albuterol has a very short half-life; as in just several hours.

Crowbar
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My research is in line with Crowbar. 4mg 2-3x per day seems to be the recommendation. Unlike clen, I have read multiple things that talk about muscle gain while on an abuterol cycle. I have some coming this week and might be adding it to my efx + furaguno cut cycle. The key is to watch your blood pressure and ensure the sides don't cause issues. Take it for 3-4 weeks with 1 week break.
 
so 4mg and start off with once a day and move up to 3 times a day and run max for 4 weeks and take 2 weeks. Can I run it into my PCT? and do I need to ween off it (other words come back down to 4mg once a day)

thanks and reps!!!
 
JudoJosh said:
so 4mg and start off with once a day and move up to 3 times a day and run max for 4 weeks and take 2 weeks. Can I run it into my PCT? and do I need to ween off it (other words come back down to 4mg once a day)

thanks and reps!!!
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The threads I have read have started off with 4mg, but quickly ramped up due to the short half life. I will probably start day1 at 4mg, but bump it up every day until I get to a good level. I am a newbie with this compound so I am just passing on what I have read.
 
i've also looked (briefly) into albu. but what seems to be more difficult is finding a source that sells it in tablet form, as mostly I find it in an inhaler form, and the one source i've found, had the tablets labled as being 40mcg, so im like, either the seller is mistaken, and just put the clen dosage on accident, or it is fake.

so my question is, how common is it to find in tablet form?

cause if this is the dosing in tablet form, that sht will be expensive to run like you guys are saying. lol

btw, i was thinking of a clen/oxyguno stack as a recomp/cut cycle.

but the logs on oxy suck ass. the loggers dont know how to stay focused on the subject.

so it will prolly be sd/clen with sd ran at 10mg e/d.
 
Look for research chemical sites--you should be able to find 6 mg./ml 60 ml bottles of liquid Albuterol pretty cheap.

40 mcg./tab--the only thing I can think is either he was marketing to people that didn't know what they were looking for or it was meant for asthma/broncho-spasm.

Crowbar
 
yea, i totally spaced on the research chem sites as i've never ordered anything from them.

I know of some reputable ones though, so i'll take a look. thanks c.b.
 
I have seen some run it 3-4 weeks then break before running it again. I think you can get a little longer on the cycle if you use benadryl. I was thinking about running 3 on, 1 off, 3 on and evaluating from there.
 
Silver3CSRT8 said:
I have seen some run it 3-4 weeks then break before running it again. I think you can get a little longer on the cycle if you use benadryl. I was thinking about running 3 on, 1 off, 3 on and evaluating from there.
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The adrenergic receptor down-regulation isn't as severe with albuterol as it is with clen, but I'd consider using an antihistamine like Diphenhydramine to aid in receptor clearing if use extends beyond 3 weeks of concurrent use. It really makes a difference. With a two week break in-between three week stints is a fine idea, however I wouldn't do that more than twice. I haven't done that personally, but that seems to be the protocol in virtually everything I read. I believe that can be circumvented by the use of Ketotifen though. This is also available at your friendly local research bodegas.

I did a clen/Epi 6 week cycle in March this year. I lost some muscle by tape measure but strength actually went up and gains in strength and eventually size continued into pct. I think the clen dried me out proper.

Not too sure about running the 11-oxo in pct though Judo. I think that is methylated and as such would only serve to stress an already stressed liver and kidneys, espec. with the use of nolva as it too is liver toxic.

Cheers bros, happy new year.
 
Meathed, do you think you could run Albuterol for 6 weeks straight with the use of benadryl say after the first 2 or 3 weeks?

Crowbar
 
crowbar46 said:
Meathed, do you think you could run Albuterol for 6 weeks straight with the use of benadryl say after the first 2 or 3 weeks?

Crowbar
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Yeah Crowbar, it is possible, but I don't know how effective it would be after three weeks of target dose use. I would judge the effectiveness by how my body was reacting to the albuterol. I know with clen, it's like you wake up one day, dose, and bubkiss. Not a thing. It seems logical the same thing would happen with albuterol. Not dangerous precisely, but the law of diminishing returns is in effect for sure. I would still do a 2 week break and slam some benadryl then blast off again. Clen sides suck and are real, but mg for mg, it is much more well suited for weight loss.
 
meathed said:
Not too sure about running the 11-oxo in pct though Judo. I think that is methylated and as such would only serve to stress an already stressed liver and kidneys, espec. with the use of nolva as it too is liver toxic.
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Correction: 11-oxo is not methylated. My bad.
 
meathed said:
Correction: 11-oxo is not methylated. My bad.
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It is non-methylated, but it is suppressive. I would not run it during PCT from a cycle as it will continue suppressing you during PCT which defeats the purpose. I would either run it high dosage standalone or better stacked with a methylated leaning compound like H-Drol or Epi.
 
Silver3CSRT8 said:
It is non-methylated, but it is suppressive. I would not run it during PCT from a cycle as it will continue suppressing you during PCT which defeats the purpose. I would either run it high dosage standalone or better stacked with a methylated leaning compound like H-Drol or Epi.
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so then go with either reduce xt or lean extreme.

I used that (reduce xt) during my last pct and found it nice. have yet to use 11oxo yet though, maybe next time.
 
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