Best for fat loss dermacrine or 1-t

Gym4Life

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im looking to do a cycle, im 23 been working out for over 4 years, am looking to stock up because of your sale.

Which one would be best to use for lean gains and the best fat loss dermacrine or the 1-t ??

thanks in advance.
 
Gym4Life said:
im looking to do a cycle, im 23 been working out for over 4 years, am looking to stock up because of your sale.

Which one would be best to use for lean gains and the best fat loss dermacrine or the 1-t ??

thanks in advance.
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I would say the Dermacrine because of the lethargy that the 1-T can cause in some users. It may "slow you down" which may kill your desire to do that cardio.

-Eric
 
Is PCT needed with dermacrine? Or is it lax enough. I will be comming off my extreme muscle stack and was planning on the fat burning stack. Would it be possible to throw in the dermacrine with that and if so could I use the same pct as with the extreme muscle stack? Thanks
 
rab71 said:
Is PCT needed with dermacrine? Or is it lax enough. I will be comming off my extreme muscle stack and was planning on the fat burning stack. Would it be possible to throw in the dermacrine with that and if so could I use the same pct as with the extreme muscle stack? Thanks
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Doesn't the fat loss stack from PP include dermatherm target? You're going to run two topicals? I'm pretty sure PCT is recommended for dermacrine. Also 1-t tren is going off the market tomorrow I think so make your decision quickly. I personally just received two 1-t tren liquidvade bottles in the mail today :biglaugh:
 
I'm on tren lv right now. It comes in the extreme muscle stack, and I would be willing to run 2 topicals if it was safe. I would put them on on different areas dermatherm goes on trouble spots and dermacrine goes on back of shoulders which is not of my trouble spots. Lol. You can also put dermacrine on thigh areas if not mistaken?
 
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rab71 said:
I'm on tren lv right now. It comes in the extreme muscle stack, and I would be willing to run 2 topicals if it was safe. I would put them on on different areas dermatherm goes on trouble spots and dermacrine goes on back of shoulders which is not of my trouble spots. Lol. You can also put dermacrine on thigh areas if not mistaken?
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Interesting. If you run two topicals I'd like your opinion on how it goes.
 
Imhoping PP will see this and chime in. I guess I could get off my lazy ars and email them...
 
From the writeups it seems like you should feel the effect of SA LV and Dermacrine LV fairly quickly. I did a 2 week run of SA and honestly it didn't do anything for me. Do you need to load this? Does body weight make a difference? Would the answers (whatever they are) apply to Dermacrine as well?
 
Blutarski said:
From the writeups it seems like you should feel the effect of SA LV and Dermacrine LV fairly quickly. I did a 2 week run of SA and honestly it didn't do anything for me. Do you need to load this? Does body weight make a difference? Would the answers (whatever they are) apply to Dermacrine as well?
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How many pumps of SA did you run mate?

Did you wash and scrub your skin well before application and allow the product to dry in?

These two factors can have a big effect on the SA absorption, most users feel the effects of the products within a few days but for some it can take a little longer.
 
UKStrength said:
How many pumps of SA did you run mate?

Did you wash and scrub your skin well before application and allow the product to dry in?

These two factors can have a big effect on the SA absorption, most users feel the effects of the products within a few days but for some it can take a little longer.
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If you're running the topical SA I'd shave the application area too. I like SA alpha. Looking forward to trying the LV
 
Sorry, I ran the Sustain Alpha Liqua Vade not the topical. Dosage was 5ml twice daily. Diet was pretty clean, actually looking at my calendar I did 15 days and 6 days off as directed. Only thing I can think of was my protein intake was a little low a few of those days, but just didn't get the effects that I expected. 6'1 235 lbs, if that makes any difference. Thanks for the help, I still have another 2 bottles to run so just want to get my ducks in a row.
 
Blutarski said:
Sorry, I ran the Sustain Alpha Liqua Vade not the topical. Dosage was 5ml twice daily. Diet was pretty clean, actually looking at my calendar I did 15 days and 6 days off as directed. Only thing I can think of was my protein intake was a little low a few of those days, but just didn't get the effects that I expected. 6'1 235 lbs, if that makes any difference. Thanks for the help, I still have another 2 bottles to run so just want to get my ducks in a row.
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Sure mate, it happens.

Did you also consider your fat intake? Fat has a huge impact on circulating testosterone levels, too low cholesterol and/or saturated fats in your diet can make them plummet.
 
UKStrength said:
Sure mate, it happens.

Did you also consider your fat intake? Fat has a huge impact on circulating testosterone levels, too low cholesterol and/or saturated fats in your diet can make them plummet.
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Agreed. One of the best natural test boosters is a shot of EVOO 2x daily.
 
rab71 said:
Is PCT needed with dermacrine? Or is it lax enough. I will be comming off my extreme muscle stack and was planning on the fat burning stack. Would it be possible to throw in the dermacrine with that and if so could I use the same pct as with the extreme muscle stack? Thanks
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Yep, we do suggest PCT for Dermacrine although its not as serious as doing PCT after TREN.

Sustain alone would be fine as a PCT for just a 4 week cycle of Dermacrine.

If you want to stack the Dermacrine with the TREN then bump you dose down on both to avoid any side effects.

You could run the Fat Loss Stack with the XHMS if you like.

-Eric
 
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