Well this response doesn't really answer your question very well now does it... Lean dry mass go with H-drol. You won't see as big of gains but it's a much more mild PH when it comes to sides. This Tren Liqui stuff is better on your liver but has more powerful sides.. Tren has been known to be a higher risk factor for gyno and libido loss while H-drol seems to be one of the least likely PH/PS to leave you with gyno. Overall if this is your first PH/PS cycle I'd go with H-drol. Its a more simple PH and if it's your first cycle you could still gain some good size from it. Just be sure that with whatever you choose, to follow up with a PCT, and I don't mean saying novadex xt is a pct. Get a serm. Check out the PCT section for any help with that.