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CEL X-TREN PCT

Johnnayyyy

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I ordered me a bottle of CEL X-TREN
on my first 2 weeks i will be running 90 MG
The 3rd week i will be adding on a pill of m-drol
and my 4th week il be adding on a pill of AXIS - HT along with the m-drol

im new to taking PHs with others and am looking for advice on PCTS
are SERMS the only effective pcts?
oor would stuff like formadrol and Novadex-XT and stuff like that work too
 
You will be shut down on tren, and if your adding m-drol you should extend your entire cycle to 6 week. 6 weeks tren and the last 3 weeks of the 6 m-drol... 2 weeks m-drol will not be as effective as you may think it will... Yes you NEED a serm, and if you dont listen and get a serm, have fun with boobs and trt.... Oh and why the hell are you taking a test booster while your on cycle!? You save that crap for your PCT, which you have none so far...

GL

-Gamer
 
clomi 100/50/50/25
cel pct a
sns reduce xt or cel suppress c
and liver assist xt
 
i was gonna use it the last week so i would have not as much shut down of text production from the xtren. im kinda new to mixing suppliments up so thats why im asking for advict. so you think i should include the axis ht on my post cycle?
 
respond to the last post then i have another question
i found some liquiclom and liquinolva
does that stuff work too?
 
Johnnayyyy said:
i was gonna use it the last week so i would have not as much shut down of text production from the xtren. im kinda new to mixing suppliments up so thats why im asking for advict. so you think i should include the axis ht on my post cycle?
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youd be better off returning axis ht, it doesnt do much of anything except lighten your wallet :(

Johnnayyyy said:
respond to the last post then i have another question
i found some liquiclom and liquinolva
does that stuff work too?
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liquiclom - clomiphene, yes it will work :D
 
Johnnayyyy said:
I ordered me a bottle of CEL X-TREN
on my first 2 weeks i will be running 90 MG
The 3rd week i will be adding on a pill of m-drol
and my 4th week il be adding on a pill of AXIS - HT along with the m-drol

im new to taking PHs with others and am looking for advice on PCTS
are SERMS the only effective pcts?
oor would stuff like formadrol and Novadex-XT and stuff like that work too
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yes you are new.
it would be better to run the tren with the mdrol.
why take a test booster on cycle when your test is rock bottom?
SERMs arent the only "effective", they are one part of the entire picture. you have some more reading to do.
 
so for a pct if i do buy liquichlom what should the recommended dosage be?
and yeah i still gotta do some reading cause serms arent the only effective solution

i heard inhibit-e liver assist xt and pct assist would work
any other opinions besides serms?
im just trying to figure out more than one solution for a pct.
 
so ive decided to drop the m-drol from the cycle
but would just 60 mg give any gains or what
and would i still need a pct
 
yes you will still need a pct!!!! always need a pct!...even with just tren..tren will shut you down...definitly did for me when i took it with hdrol...

start with pct assist, reduce xt if you want on 2 or 3 week of pct...even add in some liver assit. just like geekpop stated above...(sorry i repeated you) and you should def. still use a SERM....IMO
 
no i dont think 60 is adequate. if you're going through the trouble to run a cycle and PCT, make the cycle work. tren with mdrol is a good choice, as is tren/epi.
you can run the tren 60/90/90/120. i've had it several times so i just start at 90 and quickly move to 120.
 
never ran only tren
tren/mdrol and tren/epi
Clomid 100/75/50/25
AI's PCS
Lean FX 2 weeks into PCT
Occasionly throw in some activate xtreme
 
would it be good to take some ZMA with it too?
and another question during the x-tren cycle whileon are there any estrogen like side effects and would there be a need for anti estrogen on the cycle or just start on the pct for that
and i was looking into chlomid and Nolva and it looks like chlomid dosent do anything with gyno and nolva does
so would it be a smarter idea for nolva?
 
Johnnayyyy said:
cause so far i have liver assist and taurine for back pumps
i might go with liqui chlomid and pct assist.
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I would :)

Johnnayyyy said:
would it be good to take some ZMA with it too?
and another question during the x-tren cycle whileon are there any estrogen like side effects and would there be a need for anti estrogen on the cycle or just start on the pct for that
and i was looking into chlomid and Nolva and it looks like chlomid dosent do anything with gyno and nolva does
so would it be a smarter idea for nolva?
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if progerstone sides develope, nolva will aggravate them, thats why I reccomend clomi. Both are serms.

no need for ZMA IMO.

anti estrogen? no, youd want some cabergoline, but IMO thatd be overkill for a tren cycle.
 
Well. I don't think my clomid dosage shoule be that high because I haven't had any shrinkage or decrease in sex drive, but I still will be using pct assist with my clomid.
From what I've heard from all the users of tren products, it does shut your natural test production down like hell but I didn't dose my xtren high like most of them did.
Same thing happened to me with my m-drol/halodrol cycle, I kept my dosages relatively low, I didn't lose any gains and had no negative side effects.
I'm just a little concerned about after the cycle of tren if these side effedts will happen since so many people had negative after cycle stories and ****.
So the safe way I'm going with is clomid 75/75/50/25 and pct assist with extra vitamin c suppliments, acetyl l-carnitine and super cortisol control from now nutrition for cortisol control.
Thanks everyone who gave me advice through this.
 
If i am starting my tren cycle, should i take both a cycle support as well as a PCT, such as CEL's post cycle support? will milk thistle and this PCT be sufficient for a 4 week cycle of 90/90/90/90?

thanks
 
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