I can agree with the above two posts. Although I will say that i bought a bottle of the night-time pills standalone. I was impressed with the sleep on it and used it for that, it did make me hungry when i woke up but i wouldnt say it was noticeable fat-loss, however, i didnt purchase it for that.
Now i am giving Lipotrophin-PM a shot at the same. I have only tried it for 2 nights and i can say that i think i was less groggy on the Lipo-PM, but we shall see what happens, as for fat loss with that, i cannot comment to that either.
So, my short answer: depends on what you are looking for....