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Smoking herb before lifting

If anyone wanted a hypothetical explantion to why thc gives pumps is as follows and possibly an increase in growth hormone;

"The mechanism for appetite stimulation in subjects is believed to result from activity in the gastro-hypothalamic axis. CB1 activity in the hunger centers in the hypothalamus increases the palatability of food when levels of a hunger hormone ghrelin increase as food enters the stomach."

Read that, now the keyword here is ghrelin.

Recently, ghrelin has been shown to activate the endothelial isoform of nitric oxide synthase in a pathway that depends on various kinases including Akt

"Ghrelin is also produced in the hypothalamic arcuate nucleus, where it stimulates the secretion of growth hormone from the anterior pituitary gland."

Additionally,

"Ghrelin is also produced in the hypothalamic arcuate nucleus, where it stimulates the secretion of growth hormone from the anterior pituitary gland."

Additionally, one can think since it can elevate growth hormone, it can further lean body mass gains. Perhaps, even decrease adipose tissue if one does not succomb to "the munchies" in a negative way.

Growth hormone and nitric oxide could be a correlation in this case, as evidence by arginine stimulating nitric oxide when injecting.

Also some of my own observations on additional postive benefits. We know that sleep is vital to muscle regeneration. People who weight train need more sleep than the average person, approximately 8-10. Most Americans live in a sleep deprived state, which we know increase cortisol and glucorticoids. THC could definitely be a positive benefit to sleep, even possibly indirectly being a glutocorticoid antagonist.

There are negative effects for shure, which Ill go into detail at a later time.
 
this is quite disturbing, having been away for awhile taking a break from lifting.. i smoke (sparingly, i know i shouldnt) and smoke the chronic. However, i eat like a horse i have my shake in the morning & at night, but eat sh*t (fast food, chicken, burgers, etc whatever, it didnt faze me.)

Recently, i am getting back into it finally. but these past few weeks, i've been impressed with my results, i expected sub-par but got rather excellent ones, as far as growth about average but some serious tone-age is on the rise and general hardening of the muscles.

it has the power to be utilized as A. a recovery tool (pain, hunger etc.)and B. A cutting tool (believe it or not but marijuana can actually decrease the amount of food consumed, obviously once a slight dependance is formed.)
 
vaporizers only burn the thc which= no smoke, just a vapor its a much cleaner high. where as if youre smoking out of a bong, pipe, or blunt youre inhaling the smoke which is bad for your lungs, and give you that feeling of fatigue after a few reps.
 
landon said:
vaporizers only burn the thc which= no smoke, just a vapor its a much cleaner high. where as if youre smoking out of a bong, pipe, or blunt youre inhaling the smoke which is bad for your lungs, and give you that feeling of fatigue after a few reps.
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Are Volcano's the best? Those things are $$$... like $500+. The digital version looks sweet.

Any other good brands of vaporizers out there? I can't convince myself to spend $500 bucks on it when a pack of ZigZags cost me a buck.
 
ShakesAllDay said:
Are Volcano's the best? Those things are $$$... like $500+. The digital version looks sweet.

Any other good brands of vaporizers out there? I can't convince myself to spend $500 bucks on it when a pack of ZigZags cost me a buck.
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1 hollow bic pen tube
1 bic pen cap (to keep hot tinfoil from burning you)
1 piece of 2-ply aluminum foil 2x4inches
1 lighter
1 sprinkle (yes, a sprinkle. this is an extremely conservative method of thc administration) of fine herbage of your choice (for me, that'd be sour dies. As stated earlier, sativas are the best route to go for an energetic, cerebral experience).


Now...

for almost 0 dollars, you've got a functioning vaporizer which will save both your wallet and lungs.


For those of you under the impression the tinfoil is going to kill you and give you alzheimers.. you are incorrect. I do not have the study on hand, but i have read one that investigated this myth and proved it wrong. aluminum foil does not burn, at least not at the temperature you'd be exposing it to with a lighter. NASA wraps space shuttles and satellites in the stuff to prevent them from burning.

Volcano Digital is the way to go without a question. that is an extremely reliable piece of equipment... but at a very steep price. best advice to anyone looking to purchase a vape... save up for a volcano (doesn't have to be digital btw), or go with something like the vapor bros. (comes with lifetime warranty etc)... anything else, i.e. the Vapir One, etc... COMPLETE SH*T product. basically any vape for under 300 is either going to break, or just not work well. hence my point, when your goods are running low, grab some reynolds wrap and a bic pen.
 
You can make your own for about $40 with a digital heat gun, some plumbing hardware, and an oven bag. Plus you don't have to wreck the heat gun so now you have a sweet digital heat gun!

That said, vapes suck. It's not the same, it's like smoking hash. You can just smoke and smoke and smoke and all you get is THC, you never the the effects from the CBD/CBN/others. However if you are just smoking hash then vapes are the way to go. You can get like 20 bags of a gram.
 
dpfisher said:
You can make your own for about $40 with a digital heat gun, some plumbing hardware, and an oven bag. Plus you don't have to wreck the heat gun so now you have a sweet digital heat gun!

That said, vapes suck. It's not the same, it's like smoking hash. You can just smoke and smoke and smoke and all you get is THC, you never the the effects from the CBD/CBN/others. However if you are just smoking hash then vapes are the way to go. You can get like 20 bags of a gram.
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Gimme a shoe string, a hanger, and a dirty diaper I will make you the most KILLER BONG MAN!
 
DAdams91982 said:
Gimme a shoe string, a hanger, and a dirty diaper I will make you the most KILLER BONG MAN!
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pocket knife, an apple, and my snorkle.. trust me man ive made bongs out of less!

vaporizers are great. I had the one that looked like a water pipe with a big open slide where you put your heat gun in. there are some other good ones for a good price, read reviews. this is a good site to get:
 
I think there are negative effects,

the studies done on effecting testosterone are not conclusive.

They havnet done studies on cannabis smoking bodybuilders for example.

But in truth, in a few studies it has proven to lower testerone and increase testosterone.

Example, has anyone smoked a while, and then stopped, to realize an increased level of aggresivenes?

Example, does anyone only smoke once a day at night, and feel more agrresive during the day?

I think smoking moderately could benefit a bodybuilder but abuse would negatively affect gains, that is, if a person is not taking concurrent testosterone boosters.

In the end, everyone will notice different effects.
 
Psychabinol said:
I think there are negative effects,

the studies done on effecting testosterone are not conclusive.

They havnet done studies on cannabis smoking bodybuilders for example.

But in truth, in a few studies it has proven to lower testerone and increase testosterone.

Example, has anyone smoked a while, and then stopped, to realize an increased level of aggresivenes?

Example, does anyone only smoke once a day at night, and feel more agrresive during the day?

I think smoking moderately could benefit a bodybuilder but abuse would negatively affect gains, that is, if a person is not taking concurrent testosterone boosters.

In the end, everyone will notice different effects.
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the keyword is always moderation. too much of a good thing could give you adverse effects, thats all
 
tnubs said:
wow, last night... i smoked way TOO MUCH. i was spinning and throbbing and then threw up all the food i ate earlier. there was no way i could have lifted feelin like that, but after i puked, i felt great :p but no energy to go workout. but somehow found the strength to do 2 hours of cardio with my gf
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Go kill yourself

DAdams91982 said:
And? I am seemingly missing your point! :D
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Yeah I know... weed has many benefits, like improving sex, movies, taste of food, etc... I wouldn't consider improving your workout one of the benefits at all.

I had a roommate in college that I smoked with consistently. I never liked to smoke and lift and he was the opposite. Loved the feeling and felt really focused. We were tracking our progress of course and after a couple weeks it was obvious that he couldn't push the same weight when he lifted after smoking. We promptly put an end to smoking before working out

EMT803 said:
It's like a heroin addict spitting on a crackhead for being a junkie.
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ROFL

illgixxer said:
why is this? I enjoy blunts the most.
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I used to enjoy blunts too but they are terrible on your lungs. It's like smoking a cigarette with your weed. I think vapes are okay but I liked to be able to just spark something up and kick back and smoke so joints were my fave.
 
what about those cellulose see through papers? any evil carcinogen reports on those? ive always wanted to buy a pack
 
This morning after I got done lifting I almost poured a full shaker cup of water into a brand new jug of protein powder. I got to the point where I had the cup over the jug, tipped so the water was right at the edge of pouring. I don't know what I would have done if I hadn't stopped.
 
dpfisher said:
This morning after I got done lifting I almost poured a full shaker cup of water into a brand new jug of protein powder. I got to the point where I had the cup over the jug, tipped so the water was right at the edge of pouring. I don't know what I would have done if I hadn't stopped.
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hahahaha omg i think ive done this before
 
dpfisher said:
You think? It seems like it would make such a mess of your powder you'd remember it.
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oh i constantly catch myself pouring my multivitamin into my morning green tea, ive mixed one of those little cartons of OJ for eggwhites once and poured it all into the pan with eggs. i think at one point i did pour something into my protein jug. I call it having stoner vision lol
 
See... f*** all that. I like to be on point. Instead of pouring orange juice in my creatine jug, I'd get stoned and rack 3 45's on one side of the bar and 2 on the other side and drop the s*** on my face.
 
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