Epistane and Dianabol

dementor

dementor

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I really have been searching but cannot find any good clean comments on HOW you can take this.

I am thinking of a low dose Dianabol for 6 weeks, and then adding Epistane at 20-30 mg for the last 4 weeks - a total of 10 weeks.

My guess and from what I have read is that this will help me lean out, lower the estrogenic sides like water retention and bloat. Plus it will be a nice end of my long low dose cycle with gains to keep. I know this is no mega mass builder but it will suit me just fine.

Is this just stupid?
Are the reasoning correct?
Anybody done some similar?
PCT - Nolvadex
I also have Proviron I might ad the weeks before Epistane to avoid bloat and keep my libido high, have a new girlfriend;-)

Thanks!
 
that sounds like a good stack man i would try it and se, just dose wat u know works and dicede wich compound u want to end on, like dbol ull lose that big surge of size and strength but epi u might lose less at first, but just my 2 cents
 
I would try a small dose of dbol and epi together although stacking 2 methylated orals Is usually recomended i think if doses are kept reasonable it should be safe
something like this
weeks 1-4 30 mg dbol and 20 my epi then weeks 4-6 drop the dbol and run just the epi at 40 mg
should be.a nice little stack
I think I'm gonna run something like this myself
good luck man keep us posted
 
I would try a small dose of dbol and epi together although stacking 2 methylated orals Is usually not recomended i think if doses are kept reasonable it should be safe
something like this
weeks 1-4 30 mg dbol and 20 my epi then weeks 4-6 drop the dbol and run just the epi at 40 mg
should be.a nice little stack
I think I'm gonna run something like this myself
good luck man keep us posted
 
Dementor - how is the Epi pulse going? I wondered about something like Dbol and Epi as well. Dbol worked well for me when I was much younger, and I don't recall any sides. I am looking to see what I should do next. I had no sides at all from the straight Epi cycle I finished about 5 weeks ago.
 
wellbilt said:
I would try a small dose of dbol and epi together although stacking 2 methylated orals Is usually recomended i think if doses are kept reasonable it should be safe
something like this
weeks 1-4 30 mg dbol and 20 my epi then weeks 4-6 drop the dbol and run just the epi at 40 mg
should be.a nice little stack
I think I'm gonna run something like this myself
good luck man keep us posted
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this is the best idea. 10 weeks of a methylated steroid esp. these two, is a very bad idea. if it was var, or tbol, i'd say okay. but dbol and epi, is not safe.

with that, I would recomend dosing the dbol at 40mg for 4 weeks. 40the first week to test it out, and if it's good, upping it to 50mg the last 2 weeks. then the run the epi @ 30mg e/d starting on week 4, ending on week 6. maybe 7 if you still feel good by end of week 6.

this will help you blow up with the dbol, and solidify the gains made with it with the epi. in a sense.

make sure your pct is solid. you can expect sides with this cycle. but you know what the big cat sais about those sides....----v
 
Thanks for great answers and input!

Been away for a while so no time to be on the board..

I will use it together, but I will start with Dbol - LOW dose for 4-5 weeks before adding the Epi at 20-30 mg last 4 weeks. To log it sounds like a good idea.

There is a quite popular artikel out that talks about using Dbol as a supplement, not a steroid. At 10-15 mg a day 5 days a week, with the weekends of. I wont take weekends of and I will not go for a full 10 week. 10 mg for 60 days is my plan and epi the last 4-5 weeks with 20-30 mg.

Not too much for my liver I am sure, sides - sure. PCT with tamoxifene, one loading day of 160 mg and then just straight 20 mg for 3 weeks. Will be efficient enough. This is a really soft cycle and I do not expect monstrous results. If I wanted that I would inject.
 
MEPSE said:
Dementor - how is the Epi pulse going? I wondered about something like Dbol and Epi as well. Dbol worked well for me when I was much younger, and I don't recall any sides. I am looking to see what I should do next. I had no sides at all from the straight Epi cycle I finished about 5 weeks ago.
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Hi there
Epi pulse is done, pct of formex and activate extreme is soon over. Results? Yes! I have lost weight, gained strength and leand out which was my intention. Next pulse, if there will be one, will be higher dosed earlier in the cycle though. It was at 50 mg it started to happen things for me.

Did you get to keep your gains, how much?
 
funny when i asked this question a long while back, it was bashed and said to not really help with bloat and water if addin epi....... nice to see some positive reviews this time
 
Personally I would avoid running 2 methyls at a time or one after another. 1 is good, and if you need a stack add test
 
metalman said:
Personally I would avoid running 2 methyls at a time or one after another. 1 is good, and if you need a stack add test
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personally, I wouldn't avoid running 3 methyls at a time, stacked with test would be even better. sd/pp/hd for 4 weeks, while running test weeks 1-10. but that is me.:jaw:
 
jbryand101b said:
personally, I wouldn't avoid running 3 methyls at a time, stacked with test would be even better. sd/pp/hd for 4 weeks, while running test weeks 1-10. but that is me.:jaw:
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thats not that far off what i'm doing right now! but with Hdrol, Pplex and Xtren.

that cycle sounds fun with the Dbol and Epi, i wouldn't stack them both, no need. i think adding some test though would make it SO MUCH better, especially if you're on that long. you could always stack EQplex or Xtren or something non-methyl with it too.
keep us posted man! would be interesting to see a log of this.
 
MEPSE said:
We'll be watching. Glad the cycle went well - I have to decide what to do next. My Epi cycle was about the same as yours - looking for more size next time.
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I also look for more size now, therefore the dianabol. Really excited to do this next cycle!
 
id suggest dropping the epi and runnnig dbol at a low dose for an extended period of time. if i where to attempt this from dbol i would run 15mg for 8-10 weeks. There will be no bloat, libido issues shouldnt really be any trouble. And at a low dose cruise like that the gains will be very easy to keep and PCT will be very very easy to bounce back from. It wont be explosive size, u will notice a jump in strength tho. As long as ur diet is very very good u will make quality gains. Further more i will say that if u want to really impress ur gf u should probably go on test as a base, that stuff will allow u to run a much higher mg of dbol and ur libido will be through the roof.
 
slacker86 said:
id suggest dropping the epi and runnnig dbol at a low dose for an extended period of time. if i where to attempt this from dbol i would run 15mg for 8-10 weeks. There will be no bloat, libido issues shouldnt really be any trouble. And at a low dose cruise like that the gains will be very easy to keep and PCT will be very very easy to bounce back from. It wont be explosive size, u will notice a jump in strength tho. As long as ur diet is very very good u will make quality gains. Further more i will say that if u want to really impress ur gf u should probably go on test as a base, that stuff will allow u to run a much higher mg of dbol and ur libido will be through the roof.
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That is my thougt, to run the dbol at 10-15 mg for an extended period. AND ad the epi in the end.

Is not 10 weeks a little long? I am aiming at 6-8 weeks at 10-15 mg. Start at 10 and see how the tabs are, nothing by week 4 I will bump up to 15 mg.
 
at 10-15mg u could push to 10 weeks if u where only going to run it solo, if u really wanna run epi too then id cut down a lot just because running 2 orals back to back is kinda hazardous/toxic to the liver. i can tell u in all confidence u will feel 15mg of dbol. Why dont u run in conjunction with test?
 
dementor said:
Thanks for great answers and input!

Been away for a while so no time to be on the board..

I will use it together, but I will start with Dbol - LOW dose for 4-5 weeks before adding the Epi at 20-30 mg last 4 weeks. To log it sounds like a good idea.

There is a quite popular artikel out that talks about using Dbol as a supplement, not a steroid. At 10-15 mg a day 5 days a week, with the weekends of. I wont take weekends of and I will not go for a full 10 week. 10 mg for 60 days is my plan and epi the last 4-5 weeks with 20-30 mg.

Not too much for my liver I am sure, sides - sure. PCT with tamoxifene, one loading day of 160 mg and then just straight 20 mg for 3 weeks. Will be efficient enough. This is a really soft cycle and I do not expect monstrous results. If I wanted that I would inject.
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got a link for this?
 
thanks ^ lets take a looky
 
its a good article and i personally feel that dbol is best stacked with test however i have run dbol at 15mg before and it was a noticible increase in strength and i also felt very good while on. I think a low dose cruise on dbol will be very beneficial i would still run a PCT but i still think cancelling the epi would be a good idea tho. Ur not going to get any bloat from 15mg, and ur diet should be all clean food just for the fact it is liver toxic and can influence blood pressure.
 
^^ did u notice any size, if i do a cruise all i ever want from AAS is size
 
i noticed when i did do 15mg along with adex and a good and i mean GOOD diet i gained around 8lbs in the first 2 weeks, now i bumped the doseage up after that because it was actually supposed to be more of a kick start to a test cycle, however the test didnt kick in yet so i can say in all confidence that yes u will gain size, but it wont be gigantic nothing compared to running it at 30-50mg, but i do think u will keep most of ur gains off it if u run it for longer duration and lower dose.
 
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