First cycle, if anyone can offer suggestions

BigLeeDog

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Hey, I'm thinking about starting my first cycle shortly and I think I have done a decent amount of research concerning this but I would still like some feedback from some people who have went through this. To start...

Age 24
Weight 170
Height 5'10"
Training 2 years

I was thinking about taking Testadrol 50 along with Anabolic Formulations 13-ethyl. I was going to pyramid up with one pill testadrol my first two weeks and 2 on my third week. The 13-ethyl I was going to use per the instructions of one in the morning and one pwo. I was also thinking about Milk Thistle for my liver. PCT would Include Milk Thistle, ZMA, Novodex xt, Tribulus terestis. I was going to cycle for 3 weeks and then a month of pct. then a week off and then cycle again with 2 testadrol and the 13-ethyl, again 3 weeks on and a month of pct. Although i would be taking the milk thistle and zma throughout my cycles.

Right now I am taking:

N.O. Xplod (Changing back to Superpump 250 shortly)
Fish oil
Multivitamin
Whey Protein
B12 5000mcg (to increase appetite)
Digestive enzymes (also for appetite)

I would like to continue taking all of the above while on cycle. My blood pressure is almost corpselike so I am not too worried about that. I drink weekly usually. That will stop for the cycle.

Now I know I'm new at this so I'm probably doing a lot wrong. That's why any input I would appreciate. I'm not trying to overdue it or hurt myself. Do you think maybe I should just use testadrol 50? How about my pct? Thanks
 
-Use a singe compound for your first cycle. not both of them. this way you can see how your body responds to these compounds and youll know from any sides which one is giving you the compound.

-dont take NO while on. save that for pct. the ph will give you enough of a pump

-PCT: Nolvadex (tamoxifen Citrate) 20/20/20/20
Creatine
Superpump 250
 
theres no difference between starting at 50mg and tapering down than just starting at 20mg for 4 weeks through. it has been a misconception for years. all it does it use more nolva.
 
TravisG said:
theres no difference between starting at 50mg and tapering down than just starting at 20mg for 4 weeks through. it has been a misconception for years. all it does it use more nolva.
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well it does allow for more to be built up in the beginning and as time goes on if you lower your dosage of nolva (50 1st day then 20 for 2 weeks then 10 for 1 or 2 weeks) it will support more of a tapering effect. the half life of nolva needs to be considered also, it has a long half life. if you wanted to do a true taper, then towards the end of week 2 you s/b taking nolva EOD not ED to allow the half life to be used up in a sense.
 
I do agree with you lennoxchi. but as for results and effectivness. I see no difference between the two methods. If anyone has tried both tapering and 20mgx4 straight for two different cycles and saw better results please inform me and ill pull my foot out of my ass. thats what these forums are all about. and I want the best PCT possible, and the same as well for the OP of this forum. but imo there is no difference between the two methods. they are just as effective except for the volume you get out of your nolva.
 
Thanks everybody for the replies. I'll try that. I'm not sure how I"m gonna get a hold of nolva but I'll see what I can do. I'm going to start the cycle soon so I'll post a log with some pics if anyone is interested.
 
BigLeeDog said:
Hey, I'm thinking about starting my first cycle shortly and I think I have done a decent amount of research concerning this but I would still like some feedback from some people who have went through this. To start...

Age 24
Weight 170
Height 5'10"
Training 2 years

I was thinking about taking Testadrol 50 along with Anabolic Formulations 13-ethyl. I was going to pyramid up with one pill testadrol my first two weeks and 2 on my third week. The 13-ethyl I was going to use per the instructions of one in the morning and one pwo. I was also thinking about Milk Thistle for my liver. PCT would Include Milk Thistle, ZMA, Novodex xt, Tribulus terestis. I was going to cycle for 3 weeks and then a month of pct. then a week off and then cycle again with 2 testadrol and the 13-ethyl, again 3 weeks on and a month of pct. Although i would be taking the milk thistle and zma throughout my cycles.

Right now I am taking:

N.O. Xplod (Changing back to Superpump 250 shortly)
Fish oil
Multivitamin
Whey Protein
B12 5000mcg (to increase appetite)
Digestive enzymes (also for appetite)

I would like to continue taking all of the above while on cycle. My blood pressure is almost corpselike so I am not too worried about that. I drink weekly usually. That will stop for the cycle.


Now I know I'm new at this so I'm probably doing a lot wrong. That's why any input I would appreciate. I'm not trying to overdue it or hurt myself. Do you think maybe I should just use testadrol 50? How about my pct? Thanks
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No no no my man.....keep it SIMPLE at start; your body will respond. I wouldnt get into "research chems" or any of the synthetics or any heavier stuff for some time because you will receive results like your already taking it at first just from test. Until your absolutly knowledgable about what is what....until then you just need to run Testosterone ONLY.

I started with Sustanon250 and I use it now as my base in every cycle. It has the prop (super fast acting) the phyl (fast acting) also cyp amd enth....(all 4 esters different time release) and keeps consistent blood levels. Does much better e3d I have found. Your firstb2-3 cycles you can run that alone and see amazing results.

You seriously will see incredible differences if your diet and eating habits are on point, it DOES MAKE THE DIFFERECE.... Before you jump into more complex substances, get yourself accustomed too test. There's absolutely no reason for anything else. I'm certain many can attest to this from experience.

As far as suppliments while on cycle....I take 12 or 13 different ones for various reasons but the staple points of no exceptions are;

Milk thistle (ed)
B vitamin complex (ed)
Omega3 (ed)
Creatine (ed)
Multi vitamin (I take half at time and skip some days)
Cq-10 (periodic)
Vitamin D3 800iu (ed)
Monolauren (e3d)
Probiotic (periodic)
Fenugreek (eod)
Biotin (most days but skip periodic)

As far as your pct .....if you follow my instruction (and I'm sure others) by just sticking to testosterone until after a few cycles under belt then all you would need is nolvadex....3-4weeks (I use nolvadex and clomid)

Now running from cycle to pct too cycle and back amd forth is going to wear you down amd burn you out i would say (your system will be constantly weighted down). After you complete pct and you have recovered I would say to give yourself 3-4 weeks at that time to allow your system to run normally before starting next cycle.

8-10 weeks testosterone only. Wait 3 weeks and start pct. Pct lasts 3-4weeks tops. Then wait 3weeks and run your next cycle.

I hope any of this info helped, good luck.
 
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