Second cycle of 1-T Tren,a couple questions

[Colin]

Eh,I posted this on PP's forum with no response,hoping to get some action over here....

I was a tester on 1-T Tren + TRS over on BB.com and I started on a second 1-T Tren cycle,leading into a low dose 4-6 week test e/deca (100mg per week of each) cycle. The 1-T Tren will only be used for 2-3 weeks.I'd also like to know if Vitex would be enough to keep progesterone/prolcatin induced gyno at bay from the deca,given the low dose I would hope that I needn't use bromo.I'll be using Vitex during the 1-T Tren run.

WRT 1-T Tren:

I may switch my training time to before work in the AM and I normally sweat balls whilst training but it was even more pronounced during the previous cycle so I would like to know just how long I need to wait after an AM application of 1-T Tren to train e.g. sweat heavily.

Also,I will be going with a lower dosage this time to keep sides down,I think I would do very well with 2.5 squirts and with that in mind,how many squirts/days of Sustain Alpha would I want to go with during this lower dose 1T-Tren cycle?

 

[Trauma1]

Eh,I posted this on PP's forum with no response,hoping to get some action over here....

I was a tester on 1-T Tren + TRS over on BB.com and I started on a second 1-T Tren cycle,leading into a low dose 4-6 week test e/deca (100mg per week of each) cycle. The 1-T Tren will only be used for 2-3 weeks.I'd also like to know if Vitex would be enough to keep progesterone/prolcatin induced gyno at bay from the deca,given the low dose I would hope that I needn't use bromo.I'll be using Vitex during the 1-T Tren run.

WRT 1-T Tren:

I may switch my training time to before work in the AM and I normally sweat balls whilst training but it was even more pronounced during the previous cycle so I would like to know just how long I need to wait after an AM application of 1-T Tren to train e.g. sweat heavily.

Also,I will be going with a lower dosage this time to keep sides down,I think I would do very well with 2.5 squirts and with that in mind,how many squirts/days of Sustain Alpha would I want to go with during this lower dose 1T-Tren cycle?

That's kind of a strange cycle Colin to be honest. I just don't see any real noteable benefit in using low dose Test E/Deca for only 4-6 weeks (IMO); not to mention that 2-3 weeks in is when the 1-T Tren is just starting to get going anyway. What are your goals overall, bud?

Vitex is definitely a good adjunct to have on-hand. It should help to mitigate some aspects of prolactin-induced proliferative issues. Given the dose of Deca is pretty low, i'm not sure you'll really need anything else. I would always have some bromo on-hand though, but i really don't think it will be needed.

As for the Sustain Alpha, i would stick to our on-cycle protocol: 3 days On/3 days Off (5-7 pumps/day).

 

[Colin]

That's kind of a strange cycle Colin to be honest. I just don't see any real noteable benefit in using low dose Test E/Deca for only 4-6 weeks (IMO); not to mention that 2-3 weeks in is when the 1-T Tren is just starting to get going anyway. What are your goals overall, bud?

Vitex is definitely a good adjunct to have on-hand. It should help to mitigate some aspects of prolactin-induced proliferative issues. Given the dose of Deca is pretty low, i'm not sure you'll really need anything else. I would always have some bromo on-hand though, but i really don't think it will be needed.

As for the Sustain Alpha, i would stick to our on-cycle protocol: 3 days On/3 days Off (5-7 pumps/day).

Thanks for the reply,John.

I made a mental typo,I meant to say that I will run the deca/test for 8-12 weeks and not 4-6.I know it looks like a weird/effed up idea for a cycle but I'll explain below.

Before I start with a long ass post which may be overlooked I just wanted to get an answer on the application question I posted above:


WRT 1-T Tren:

I may switch my training time to before work in the AM and I normally sweat balls whilst training but it was even more pronounced during the previous cycle so I would like to know just how long I need to wait after an AM application of 1-T Tren to train e.g. sweat heavily.



From my own trial with 1-T Tren,it completely kicked in around the 10th day and in around 2-ish weeks I'll have rec'd the deca + test.With my joint issues,I really want to get on deca ASAP so I'll discontinue 1-T Tren then.Using deca+test + 1-T Tren would be an invitation for moobs (2 nor's equals more chance for moobies) so I'll save the remaining 1-T Tren (1/2 half bottle) for another month long cycle.

I also lined up a source for affordable adequan so now it looks like I'll just run the 1-T Tren for a month straight with adequan when it shows up and then jump into deca/test for a good 10+ weeks.Adequan will be dropped when I start on deca/test.
Once I run out of Sustain Alpha,I'll be using HCG up intil the last week of the test/deca cycle.

My goal now is MOAR cutting,primarily why I want to use 1-T Tren,it's about as effective as var IME for fat loss.

My goal with the test + deca is fairly simple;relief of joint pain (my **** is effed) and enhanced nutrient partitioning to help me maintain a lower b/f level.Deca's effects on joints are full blown at only 100mg per week and I'll have a TRT level of test (100mg per week) to stave off deca lethargy and act as well...TRT,basically.So this is more of a 'quality of life' cycle than a BB cycle.

I may do this deca/test indefinitely,with clomid used in PCT (equal time off) along with adeuqan to replace deca.

 

[Steveoph]

If you're going to shower after you AM workout, I would just apply it after the shower Colin. 8-12 wk sounds much more logical

 

[Colin]

If you're going to shower after you AM workout, I would just apply it after the shower Colin. 8-12 wk sounds much more logical

Nah,no showering after my AM workout.I work outside and I would be going right to work after I leave the gym so showering after a w/o would be redundant considering I'd only be sweating balls in the summer heat a half hour later.

 

[wilsmash4food]

ive been on 1-t tren for about 3 weeks now...im seeing some slight changes (gained about 3lbs) but nothin crazy. everythings in check, diet and whatnot. i just keep watching that pump bottle get emptier and im not seeing much at all. starting to frustrate me a bit (1-t tren wasnt exactly cheap ya know?) im applying 4 pumps to shoulders, chest and back...maybe move to a new spot for application? pherhaps inner thighs or inner arms? im just getting frustrated with this..anybody have words of wisdom?

 

[Trauma1]

Thanks for the reply,John.

I made a mental typo,I meant to say that I will run the deca/test for 8-12 weeks and not 4-6.I know it looks like a weird/effed up idea for a cycle but I'll explain below.

Before I start with a long ass post which may be overlooked I just wanted to get an answer on the application question I posted above:


WRT 1-T Tren:

I may switch my training time to before work in the AM and I normally sweat balls whilst training but it was even more pronounced during the previous cycle so I would like to know just how long I need to wait after an AM application of 1-T Tren to train e.g. sweat heavily.



From my own trial with 1-T Tren,it completely kicked in around the 10th day and in around 2-ish weeks I'll have rec'd the deca + test.With my joint issues,I really want to get on deca ASAP so I'll discontinue 1-T Tren then.Using deca+test + 1-T Tren would be an invitation for moobs (2 nor's equals more chance for moobies) so I'll save the remaining 1-T Tren (1/2 half bottle) for another month long cycle.

I also lined up a source for affordable adequan so now it looks like I'll just run the 1-T Tren for a month straight with adequan when it shows up and then jump into deca/test for a good 10+ weeks.Adequan will be dropped when I start on deca/test.
Once I run out of Sustain Alpha,I'll be using HCG up intil the last week of the test/deca cycle.

My goal now is MOAR cutting,primarily why I want to use 1-T Tren,it's about as effective as var IME for fat loss.

My goal with the test + deca is fairly simple;relief of joint pain (my **** is effed) and enhanced nutrient partitioning to help me maintain a lower b/f level.Deca's effects on joints are full blown at only 100mg per week and I'll have a TRT level of test (100mg per week) to stave off deca lethargy and act as well...TRT,basically.So this is more of a 'quality of life' cycle than a BB cycle.

I may do this deca/test indefinitely,with clomid used in PCT (equal time off) along with adeuqan to replace deca.

Well this certainly makes more sense now, Colin.

I would have it applied for a good hour before you start to train. Ther perspiration can actually help to open your pours increasing penetration and absorbtion; just make sure not to wipe it off your skin.

Another option would be an over-night application/dwell period. This would allow for it to be absorbed while you sleep. I would apply after your evening shower if you chose this method....i recommend this as well in your situation.

 

[Trauma1]

ive been on 1-t tren for about 3 weeks now...im seeing some slight changes (gained about 3lbs) but nothin crazy. everythings in check, diet and whatnot. i just keep watching that pump bottle get emptier and im not seeing much at all. starting to frustrate me a bit (1-t tren wasnt exactly cheap ya know?) im applying 4 pumps to shoulders, chest and back...maybe move to a new spot for application? pherhaps inner thighs or inner arms? im just getting frustrated with this..anybody have words of wisdom?

It starts to kick in during week 3, so you're just beginning to see the effects to be honest. Give it time.

Make sure you're applying to your upper back/shoulders, and chest. These areas contain the highest amount of steroidogenic enzymes that are required for target hormone conversion.