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asteriod stack

at1010

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hey i have taken to cycles of the asteriod stack back to back and i have not gotten amazing results...i eat alot and healthy i eat complex carbs for the anabolic pump....i am much more defined but i am not noticing a strength gain...any tips??
 
if your bulking are you eating enough calories? are you pushing yourself to actually test your strength? are you resting/sleeping enough?
 
carpee said:
if your bulking are you eating enough calories? are you pushing yourself to actually test your strength? are you resting/sleeping enough?
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This is key ...you may be surprised what your capable of...
 
trust me guys i have deff gotten stronger and i always push my self for an extra rep or to bump the next weight up....but i just dont know if i have gotten a ton stronger such as other people have said they have gotten from these products...
 
have you tried the 69 protocol with Prime? When I did I got much more out of it...

And do you have the newer 800mg prime capsules?
 
at1010 said:
trust me guys i have deff gotten stronger and i always push my self for an extra rep or to bump the next weight up....but i just dont know if i have gotten a ton stronger such as other people have said they have gotten from these products...
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I just got very steady strength increase, some exercises were up 25-30 in 4 weeks others as much as 60 or 70. The increases were not sudden buy they were steady.
 
Fastone said:
Be realistic, not everyone is going to get super gains. Some folks don't respond at all.
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Yes there is that too... my response was on the higher end of average. Some did respond better, some worse.
 
ok i mean like i said as far as physical look i love it...but strength not as much....i have a buddie who is keeping up with me and i used to be much stronger than him and he only take whey.....also can i take to aps b4 carbs or is that over kill?
 
at1010 said:
ok i mean like i said as far as physical look i love it...but strength not as much....i have a buddie who is keeping up with me and i used to be much stronger than him and he only take whey.....also can i take to aps b4 carbs or is that over kill?
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Sounds to me like your responding very well to the AP and Powerfull but not so well to the Prime.
 
at1010 said:
hey i have taken to cycles of the asteriod stack back to back and i have not gotten amazing results...i eat alot and healthy i eat complex carbs for the anabolic pump....i am much more defined but i am not noticing a strength gain...any tips??
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I would love to see your training program as well as a sample day's diet. This will help us figure out why you are not seeing the results you should be.
 
i am using the a 3 s t training split it was published on bb.com about a week ago...
a sample diet would be wake up have a protein shake and some oatmeal....then in about an hour i go to the gym....then im home from the gym i have a shake and a low fat turkey sandwich on whole wheat bread....i will eat some bars in between then for dinner i will have some type of carbs like grilled chicken and rice or pasta....and b4 i go to bed ill usually have another shake...
 
at1010 said:
i am using the a 3 s t training split it was published on bb.com about a week ago...
a sample diet would be wake up have a protein shake and some oatmeal....then in about an hour i go to the gym....then im home from the gym i have a shake and a low fat turkey sandwich on whole wheat bread....i will eat some bars in between then for dinner i will have some type of carbs like grilled chicken and rice or pasta....and b4 i go to bed ill usually have another shake...
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Training - That really doesn't help me.

Nutrition - Obviously this is my own opinion, but during my bulking/strength phases... I do not use Whey more than once per day... Here you are only getting 1/3 of your intake from whole food. I would strive to eat 4-5 whole meals per day, 1 - 2 shakes IF NEEDED. This is just a start...
 
Clickster said:
This post is basically what I was going to say. Very nice post.
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However, given the information he has provided... I think it is a safe assumption that he can improve upon (at least) his basic nutrition to see greater benefits of his overall program.
 
borobulker said:
However, given the information he has provided... I think it is a safe assumption that he can improve upon (at least) his basic nutrition to see greater benefits of his overall program.
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I agree his diet is his weak point...
 
i agree guys my diet is my weak point but for a kid who is 18 i only have so many options when your constantly running around and doing ****....when im home all day those days my diet is point on i eat a bunch and train hard but for an 18 year old kid on avg dont hate so much...my training split is and shoulders,legs,off,back,shoulders,arms,chest,off,then start over then ill go to a chest twice a week then back twice a week then arms twice a week....
 
at1010 said:
i agree guys my diet is my weak point but for a kid who is 18 i only have so many options when your constantly running around and doing ****....when im home all day those days my diet is point on i eat a bunch and train hard but for an 18 year old kid on avg dont hate so much...my training split is and shoulders,legs,off,back,shoulders,arms,chest,off,then start over then ill go to a chest twice a week then back twice a week then arms twice a week....
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Were not hating .. I understand but you have to realize that your diet has a major impact on your success.
 
If you think you are busy at 18 wait till you have a career, bills, your ac breaking, a wedding to plan and pay for, career certifications to study for, etc. At 18 your "running around" should really be a non issue. It only gets worse, lol.

By the way those are my issues in the last few weeks, lol, yet i still get my food cooked and off to the gym which is a half hour away.
 
at1010 said:
i agree guys my diet is my weak point but for a kid who is 18 i only have so many options when your constantly running around and doing ****....when im home all day those days my diet is point on i eat a bunch and train hard but for an 18 year old kid on avg dont hate so much...my training split is and shoulders,legs,off,back,shoulders,arms,chest,off,then start over then ill go to a chest twice a week then back twice a week then arms twice a week....
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No hate bro... We want to better your program and trust me, there is a phenomenal team on this site that is willing to help, if you are willing to do the work.

Personally, I do not think age has anything to do with it. We need to put 100% into this program and you will see the results you are looking for.

I would start with something simple like = Work up to 1 gallon of 2% Milk per day, additionally eat 3 whole meals containing complex carbs, lean proteins and healthy fats. Snack on trail mix. Whey (if needed) post-workout.
 
borobulker said:
No hate bro... We want to better your program and trust me, there is a phenomenal team on this site that is willing to help, if you are willing to do the work.

Personally, I do not think age has anything to do with it. We need to put 100% into this program and you will see the results you are looking for.

I would start with something simple like = Work up to 1 gallon of 2% Milk per day, additionally eat 3 whole meals containing complex carbs, lean proteins and healthy fats. Snack on trail mix. Whey (if needed) post-workout.
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Good advice... gradual changes ..
 
I work full time and go to school so I can relate to not being able to prepare foods all the time. However, for examplea, I always keep 3-4 cans of tuna in my gym bag and always make a lot of chicken and rice on sunday and put it in a big container so I can take it to work throughout the week. Diet is very key especially when taking AP.
 
thanks guys can i ask y 2percent and not skim? and also when my diet was the best was actually when i was the busiest with school...when i have the same schedule everyday a diet is easy but now that its summer its hard for me not an excuse but just my reasoning i understand its my own fault....
 
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