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First timer needs advice.

airram479

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Hello everyone,I have been checking out CEL product line for awhile now and i must say that the feedback has been favorable. I have wanted to stay away from the hormonal products at first just to see how my body would react to something natty. I have tried Tribuloid,DTH,and Androtest Xtreme while all the above were good they did not produce the results i was after.

I am 5'9,180ish,and BF is somewhere around 14-15. I am looking to cut a little,but not a lot. Basically i am looking to gain and lose at the same time,if that is even possible.

Now my concerns;
The legality of these products:If my boss should make piss in a cup the last thing i want is for it too come back positive.

Shutdown: My Doc already has me on a script for Celexa due to some anxiety issues as of late. I am already struggling with some ED issues due to this.

Cycle Support:Would CEL cycle support supps. be enough to cover a cycle. What i mean by this is that i don't have access to a SERM,and i hate the way some guy's throw that out there all time...Like i can just walk into GNC and get it.

Most of the threads i have read say run Hdrol for your first time,I have also checked Estane due to the fact that i see that particular clone,..cloned alot.

Let me know what y'all think..thanks:feedback:
 
airram479 said:
Hello everyone,I have been checking out CEL product line for awhile now and i must say that the feedback has been favorable. I have wanted to stay away from the hormonal products at first just to see how my body would react to something natty. I have tried Tribuloid,DTH,and Androtest Xtreme while all the above were good they did not produce the results i was after.

I am 5'9,180ish,and BF is somewhere around 14-15. I am looking to cut a little,but not a lot. Basically i am looking to gain and lose at the same time,if that is even possible.

Now my concerns;
The legality of these products:If my boss should make piss in a cup the last thing i want is for it too come back positive.

Shutdown: My Doc already has me on a script for Celexa due to some anxiety issues as of late. I am already struggling with some ED issues due to this.

Cycle Support:Would CEL cycle support supps. be enough to cover a cycle. What i mean by this is that i don't have access to a SERM,and i hate the way some guy's throw that out there all time...Like i can just walk into GNC and get it.

Most of the threads i have read say run Hdrol for your first time,I have also checked Estane due to the fact that i see that particular clone,..cloned alot.

Let me know what y'all think..thanks:feedback:
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I think Hdrol at 50mgs for 4-6 weeks would be ideal for you--However the script does worry me. PH can cause anxiety.etc in users and if you already have this condition it could aggravate it BUT as far as the ED goes , it may help:bigeyes:
PCT Asist w/ Inhibit E or Topical Formestane would be enough PCT ~~serm not needed
 
I agree with mw1. HDrol was my first ph and to be honest it has been my favorite. I gained about 13 lean solid lbs. The only side was increased libido and wood, if you know what I mean. The wifey loved it.
 
airram479 said:
Hello everyone,I have been checking out CEL product line for awhile now and i must say that the feedback has been favorable. I have wanted to stay away from the hormonal products at first just to see how my body would react to something natty. I have tried Tribuloid,DTH,and Androtest Xtreme while all the above were good they did not produce the results i was after.

I am 5'9,180ish,and BF is somewhere around 14-15. I am looking to cut a little,but not a lot. Basically i am looking to gain and lose at the same time,if that is even possible.

Now my concerns;
The legality of these products:If my boss should make piss in a cup the last thing i want is for it too come back positive.

Shutdown: My Doc already has me on a script for Celexa due to some anxiety issues as of late. I am already struggling with some ED issues due to this.

Cycle Support:Would CEL cycle support supps. be enough to cover a cycle. What i mean by this is that i don't have access to a SERM,and i hate the way some guy's throw that out there all time...Like i can just walk into GNC and get it.

Most of the threads i have read say run Hdrol for your first time,I have also checked Estane due to the fact that i see that particular clone,..cloned alot.

Let me know what y'all think..thanks:feedback:
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ok first of all if you are drug tested at work, the tests are usually for the main 5
THC (marijuana), Cocaine (Crack), Methamphetamine (Ecstasy), Amphetamine, Opiates (Morphine)
steroid tests are expensive. Even if your job does an in-depth 12 panel test:
◦Methamphetamine - mAMP, Meth, Ice, Speed, Crank, Ecstasy
◦Ecstasy - MDMA
◦Marijuana - THC, Hash, Pot, Cannabis, Hashish, Weed
◦Benzodiazepines - BZO, Benzos
◦Methadone - MTD
◦Barbiturates - BAR
◦Amphetamine - AMP
◦Opiate - OPI
◦Oxycodone - OXY, Oxycotin, Oxycontin
◦Propoxyphene - PPX
◦Cocaine - COC, Crack, Coke
◦Buprenorphine - BUP, Suboxone, Subutex, Temgesic

would be what they are looking for.

the ED issues are going to come into play. I started to get them in week 5 of my hdrol solo run, and in week 4 of my pplex/estane bridge. At the beginning you might be good, but it might get bad towards the end. Just DO NOT TRY TO ELIMINATE ESTROGEN, estrogen is good for libido and ive always noticed an increase once i lower or drop my AI.


i don't want to speak on how easy it is to possibly get a serm, but cycle assist will definitely help you during the cycle and PCT is almost a must for me because it helps me with the ED problems. I will not recommend a certain pct setup for you, someone else can do that.

as far as which one to choose, i think that hdrol will do what you want, it leaned me up while trying to "dirty" bulk.
 
For a beginner PH i would suggest h-drol. The anxiety and ED are both hormone related and i honestly think maybe you should wait a bit and deal with the anxiety issue first, get that settled and then move on to other things that may impact hormone levels such as Ph's. At least in my opinion you need to have everything set up perfectly before u start any Ph DS or AAS. If you can try and deal with the anxiety first and get that to a minimum before playing with things that can alter hormone levels i think you would be at a much better starting point in both mental and physical aspects. just my opinion but i really think if you can get this settled first you can always take some sort of supplement of PH later in life.
 
hello everyone im 18 and have been taking supplements from gnc for a while. i bought m drol a couple of weeks ago but alot of people told me to save it till i was a least 21. is thur ne good products i should check out that would be good for me to take at amy age???
 
Brewery54 said:
hello everyone im 18 and have been taking supplements from gnc for a while. i bought m drol a couple of weeks ago but alot of people told me to save it till i was a least 21. is thur ne good products i should check out that would be good for me to take at amy age???
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PCT Assist is a good test booster..there were 2 19yo at bb who logged it w/ nice results . I can pm u the links if you like.
 
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