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Epi, and loving it

17amethyl

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this is my first time using epistane, not hormones/ph...

with a handful of cycles under my belt, i was skeptical about running epi solo as ive heard a mix of users being "satisfied" with it as a mere recomp and others noting not too much, but at the moment was looking for something low in the body-tax department and suited for a mild cut

currently at 30mgs ed nearing the end of week 2, and a few things to note which leave me very impressed with this compound...usually finish with 315 on flat bb bench for my heavy working sets for 3-6 reps, the other day i did 365 for 2 on my last set...i dont think i could have even pulled out 1 rep on that fresh pre cycle

my last leg day: managed to up my last working set on squats which usually pans to be 315 for 6-8 reps, however, was able to hit 355 for 5 reps

i cant comment on deads as im working through a mild back strain at the moment and my therapist and i reached a compromise and i promised to be smart :damnit:

but i really just needed to put out an abridged review for any of those considering the effectiveness of epi...i know i only speak for myself, but it is quickly becoming my favorite ds, yielding nice, dry mass gains, even as i am cutting on the keto diet while adding some incredible strength gains as well

hope this was useful
 
lucky epi throws a magical 10lbs of air onto my body lol, scale says something but mirror and weight room disagree with scale.
 
I like epi because I bridged into it from phera and the lethargy stopped and I feel much more alive now. I don't have to nap all day, sweet!!!
 
agreed, even at a moderate dose i feel no signs of shutdown, the sense of euphoria and increased libido is unexpected but welcomed after running cycles like superdrol/phera
 
Yeah, had zero sex drive while on phera, boys were still there but no drive. About a week into the epi I started to get horny again. Needless to say the fiance and I were both much happier!!!:sgrin:
 
cmc said:
Can someone explain why my recent post was deleted? WTF?
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The one where you said you didn't like epi much and preferred the one? hmm maybe reps had something to do with it.
I'm on day 5 of 20mg and not feeling anything yet...2 more days then I'll up it to 30...I hope I respond well to epi, man I've been waiting forever to run this...
 
nparisi said:
The one where you said you didn't like epi much and preferred the one? hmm maybe reps had something to do with it.
I'm on day 5 of 20mg and not feeling anything yet...2 more days then I'll up it to 30...I hope I respond well to epi, man I've been waiting forever to run this...
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I went right to 40mg for epi and feel good, no sides. You may need a little more with your weight but I don't know your past experience either. I think next time when I run it solo I'll either do a longer cycle of it at 40mg or possibly bump to 50mg but not as long.
 
Hey 17amethyl any new updates, I know you were nearing the end of week two. Just wanted to see how things were looking for you?
 
weird question but if someone can help me out with this it would be appreciated

okay i got an odd question but its kinda relavent to me i was wondering if someone could please help me out with this. I have been weight training for several years it is one of my passions, but one of my other passions is singing I was just wondering will epistane have any effect on my vocal chords or screw up my voice in anyway?
 
captrusticles said:
okay i got an odd question but its kinda relavent to me i was wondering if someone could please help me out with this. I have been weight training for several years it is one of my passions, but one of my other passions is singing I was just wondering will epistane have any effect on my vocal chords or screw up my voice in anyway?
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Is kind of a wierd question!! I don't see how it could but I"m not a doctor so don't take my word for it, stranger things have happend. Sorry I can't provide more info man.
 
cheers mate the only i reason i ask is that i have heard that steroid usage can lead to a change in the pitch level of your voice but this is most likely due to steroid abuse rather than responsible usage i would imagine but yeah anyone has any info on this at all it would be very helpful cheers
 
KeepBuilding said:
I went right to 40mg for epi and feel good, no sides. You may need a little more with your weight but I don't know your past experience either. I think next time when I run it solo I'll either do a longer cycle of it at 40mg or possibly bump to 50mg but not as long.
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I might up it today...It's my first cycle so I thought I would get something from 20mg!
 
nparisi said:
I might up it today...It's my first cycle so I thought I would get something from 20mg!
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Gotcha, you're smart playing it safe! Feel it out and listen to your body. More doesn't always mean better sometimes it can just mean more sides which no one wants!
 
Yea..that post. The fact of the matter is that yes..it was most likely political. I'm in favor of what works and clearly stated my experience as it was..the truth plain and simple. Unfortunately, Epi appears to be a big seller so my negative yet truthful comment about it may have upset someone. Too bad. I had included a pic, which should prove as a reference. I've read a lot of reports all over the web of those who used Epi. While many suggested that they had good results, I have not yet seen them. Aside from that, most of the logs were just a bunch of crap with guys saying "great gains" when the pics clearly showed little or no change..lol. I believe I also stated that is how it worked for me and others had different experiences in addition to The One providing a better experience for me as far as results. Quite frankly, I found the One to be weak as well, even at 4 tabs per day, more than what was suggested for my weight but better than Epi..for me. All blood tests(multiple) produced levels that were fine.

As a professional athlete and product tester for some of the world's best winter sports manufacturers, if a product doesnt perform, Im not one to hesitate on voicing on how it worked for me. For that honest post to be deleted just shows the kind of corruption that goes on(even as small and innocent as it appeared to the deleter). What a f'iing joke.
 

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Oh dude I found that post it was actually in a different epi thread I was subbed to. Unless you posted it in this thread as well, but I knew I remembered reading your post.
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cmc said:
Yea..that post. The fact of the matter is that yes..it was most likely political. I'm in favor of what works and clearly stated my experience as it was..the truth plain and simple. Unfortunately, Epi appears to be a big seller so my negative yet truthful comment about it may have upset someone. Too bad. I had included a pic, which should prove as a reference. I've read a lot of reports all over the web of those who used Epi. While many suggested that they had good results, I have not yet seen them. Aside from that, most of the logs were just a bunch of crap with guys saying "great gains" when the pics clearly showed little or no change..lol. I believe I also stated that is how it worked for me and others had different experiences in addition to The One providing a better experience for me as far as results. Quite frankly, I found the One to be weak as well, even at 4 tabs per day, more than what was suggested for my weight but better than Epi..for me. All blood tests(multiple) produced levels that were fine.

As a professional athlete and product tester for some of the world's best winter sports manufacturers, if a product doesnt perform, Im not one to hesitate on voicing on how it worked for me. For that honest post to be deleted just shows the kind of corruption that goes on(even as small and innocent as it appeared to the deleter). What a f'iing joke.
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Ehhh...either way....if it was deleted because of the reasons I stated, that is a shame. You can count on any post from me to be the truth.
 
continued improvements

sorry to hear your negative experience with epi...it happens, and for more reasons than one we will all respond differently...but unbiased and diverse feedback is the best kind and your input should be heard

anyhow...to speak from my experience, while still on a cut, my strength continues to elevate to the point where i feel like im lying to myself :liar:

reached 405 for 4 reps on my 4th working set on squats...405 would normally be my 1rm on a good day pre-cycle...compare this to what was 355 for i believe 4 reps last week on my last set...im in disbelief that epi is working almost as well for me as og superdrol

in terms of aesthetics & the scale, like i said, my goal for this cycle was oriented around a cut...i started at about 211, then dropped to 206 (im being as truthful and faithful to this keto diet as i can, its tough and im flaking at times, but its helping more than i could imagine dropping bf) and have added clean size to the scale now nearing about 208/209 so far...im on the first day of week 3, so ill keep you guys updated

thanks for checking in

btw, just be easy jumping to 30/40+mgs right away, esp on a first cycle bc you will likely feel an uncomfortable bp spike
 
Yea thanks. I realize that supplements are going to affect each person differently. One's diet is the best overall supplement.

A keto diet will cut you up rather quickly and its good to see that you are still upping the strength while doing so. I just bumped the Epi up to 50 today and will monitor any reactions/differences.

Believe it or not, when I did a cycle of the original 1ad by Ergopharm, I had sick results, both in mass gain and strength...and at that time, my diet wasnt the cleanest.
 
hey cmc if epi isn't working well for you then you're not alone... I ran a bulker 30/30/40/40 and ate so much i gained a little fat, and gained no strength. It made my muscles hard and my veins pop out, gave me better pumps, but no gains. Let me repeat, NO GAINS.

I'm still stumped, but i've just concluded that some of us are nonresponders. Halodrol also didn't work, at least not at 50mg.

Phera worked moderately.

SD worked fantastic, gained strength and weight more rapidly than ever in my life

Trying out "tren" for the first time and so far I am ranking it up with SD, fantastic... i'm dropping bodyfat and adding strength...
 
cmc said:
Unreal, SD is my next cycle down the road. Great physique!
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You too bro.

I think you will love Superdrol. It has a reputation for having such bad sides, but all I got were a few back pumps.... Please, a small price to pay for feeling like a GOD. Makes me feel better than test... Idk I guess i am just a superdrol fanboy.
 
UnrealMachine said:
You too bro.

I think you will love Superdrol. It has a reputation for having such bad sides, but all I got were a few back pumps.... Please, a small price to pay for feeling like a GOD. Makes me feel better than test... Idk I guess i am just a superdrol fanboy.
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Hey Unreal what clones of superdrol have you had the best results with? I may look into it for the future. I have a bonus coming and may build a little stock pile of goodies!:haha:
 
I used SNS Methyl Drol XT that i got back in 2006 and knew was legit. When that ran out, the 2nd one I tried was EST Methyl Vol and that worked exactly the same.

I tried Mdrol for a week going up to 30mg with no results and I insist I had a bad batch!
But i've been reading the forums enough to know that the overwhelming majority of it is good ****.

As for which one to buy, hell, i don't know. There's a lot of Superdrol clones out there, I assume they're legit, bad batches occur, i've read enough bad things about Fast Action S-Drol to avoid that one.
 
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