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I have an even better idea how about we try to get along and if we disagree we say why and quit the the tone of putting the other down. Its gaining nothing.
dude....you made an incorrect assertion. If you have studied the people associated with the American Revolution, you would know that many of the fathers were deist freemasons.I have an even better idea how about we try to get along and if we disagree we say why and quit the the tone of putting the other down. Its gaining nothing.
Lets see Dsade you are an avowed Atheist how does Deism correlate to Atheism please give me more light on this subject or is Wikipedia ok http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deismdude....you made an incorrect assertion. If you have studied the people associated with the American Revolution, you would know that many of the fathers were deist freemasons.
You are really quite impossible to converse with....and you post irelevant garbage that you know nothing about.
Now...I know you can do this...search for Founding Fathers and Deists and see what comes up. Doesn't sound much like Protestant to me, since they reject prophets, the bible, and other revelations.Lets see Dsade you are an avowed Atheist how does Deism correlate to Atheism please give me more light on this subject or is Wikipedia ok http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism
Deism is a religious and philosophical belief that a supreme god created the universe, and that this and other religious truth can be determined using reason and observation of the natural world alone, without the need for faith. Deists generally reject the notion of divine interventions in human affairs - such as by miracles and revelations. These views contrast with a dependence on revelations, miracles, and faith found in many Judeo-Christian,[1][2] Islamic and other theistic teachings.
How does belief in a SUPREME GOD correlate to Atheism. Furthermore with out going in depth I can tell you Freemasons are not Deist, its only wishful thinking of antireligious zealots.
No, the founding fathers of the United States were by and large Deists. In fact, Thomas Jefferson removed all claims of Jesus' divinity from the bible, truncated the canonical works he felt most relevant, and removed all supernatural goings on. The book was titled, "Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth", IIRC. Jefferson did so as he saw the doctrine, religion, and church structure of his day as a path of oppression, and a means of subjugation. Really, Jefferson and the other founding fathers saw the supernatural tint of of bible as frivolous - and this is especially prevalent in that none of Jesus' miracles, neither his prophecy or resurrection are mentioned in this book. Why, though? Because the moral take-home from the bible is valid as a code of ethic sans sanctification; it is nothing more-or-less than common sense: "be nice, don't lie, don't steal". In reality, these are all things more or less imperative to the proper functioning of any group of pack animals, and are valid as nothing more than that. Aside from dominance displays, you really do not see animals in the same pack thieving food from each other and/or killing each other unnecessarily. These are things necessary to the survival of a pack. Over time, silly books and god-heads have been accredited for their creation.Lets see Dsade you are an avowed Atheist how does Deism correlate to Atheism please give me more light on this subject or is Wikipedia ok http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism
Deism is a religious and philosophical belief that a supreme god created the universe, and that this and other religious truth can be determined using reason and observation of the natural world alone, without the need for faith. Deists generally reject the notion of divine interventions in human affairs - such as by miracles and revelations. These views contrast with a dependence on revelations, miracles, and faith found in many Judeo-Christian,[1][2] Islamic and other theistic teachings.
How does belief in a SUPREME GOD correlate to Atheism. Furthermore with out going in depth I can tell you Freemasons are not Deist, its only wishful thinking of antireligious zealots.
HEATHEN!Deism is better defined as a belief in a supreme "being" that set the universe in motion and has been hands off ever since. That "being" may or may not have any resemblance to the Judeo-Christian "God" as we know it, depending on the view holder. Rather, it simply acknowledges a higher power made the universe and said higher power does not give a rat's ass about either Jesus or Brittany Spears.
Not an expert on Deism, but I can certainly discern one. dsade made the comment many of the founding fathers were deist, and I gave evidence for that claim. Have you given evidence against it?I have to love the supposed experts who some how in there mind make all facts bend to there ideas no matter how far fetched but they have no actual first hand knowledge of what they are talking about. Is even one of you who commented saying Masons are Deist an actual Mason , I already know the answer but I am going to make a point so if you are please chime in.
What else could we possibley say to that other than "touche".Depressingly true.
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