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T911

Trying to get my thread rolling on test boosters.

Just to point out that T911 is using a prohormone. So yeah its a test booster it ain't a 'natty test booster' though. Sure T911 would kick using a prohormone and might stack well with very low dose AI.
 
matthias7 said:
Trying to get my thread rolling on test boosters.

Just to point out that T911 is using a prohormone. So yeah its a test booster it ain't a 'natty test booster' though. Sure T911 would kick using a prohormone and might stack well with very low dose AI.
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This doesn't make much sense.

First off, T-911 is hormonal in a sense, but it is not a prohormone, it's a DHT-derivative. Second, T-911 is an AI. Why would you need to stack it with another one?
 
this website has the ingredient profile and is selling t911 for 30 dollars

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does anyone know where to get it cheaper?
 
Irish Cannon said:
This doesn't make much sense.

First off, T-911 is hormonal in a sense, but it is not a prohormone, it's a DHT-derivative. Second, T-911 is an AI. Why would you need to stack it with another one?
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1-Androsterone, Advanced Muscle Science sell as a prohormone Invalid Link Removed

A patent surrounding the molecular name shortened to ADT - which is an AI

Dunno. The rest of the stuff seems to be clean-up.
 
I got a T-911 sample (2 tabs), but have never used a PH/TB before. Any ideas on what to expect? I'm thinking of taking one preworkout (~5PM) and the other in the evening (~10PM).
 
hl80 said:
I got a T-911 sample (2 tabs), but have never used a PH/TB before. Any ideas on what to expect? I'm thinking of taking one preworkout (~5PM) and the other in the evening (~10PM).
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2 tabs are gonna do squat! Like Irish Cannon said, took him a wee to notice anything. I am on day 3 @ 3 lozenges and nothing to report yet, not even Libido. I noticed most hormonals etc require at least a week to notice effects. Not sure how the users claiming to notice effects on first day?:worried:
 
I haven't tried T911 yet but DTH ingredient profile can't be beat the results you get on
DTH are the best I have and many other people I know have gotten are the best of any
herbal testbooster out their. I have also seen a warning about 1 of the ingredients in
T911 that says " This product contains chemicals known to the state of CA. to cause
birth defects or other reproductive harm" I think if it can cause harm in CA. it can cause
harm in any of the other 49 states so I am in no rush to try T911 or any of the other
products that have this warning and their are a bunh of them with this warning. DTH
doesn't have any of these potentially dangerous ingredients and thats why I highly
recommend it.
 
I haven't tried T911 yet but DTH ingredient profile can't be beat the results you get on
DTH are the best I have and many other people I know have gotten are the best of any
herbal testbooster out their. I have also seen a warning about 1 of the ingredients in
T911 that says " This product contains chemicals known to the state of CA. to cause
birth defects or other reproductive harm" I think if it can cause harm in CA. it can cause
harm in any of the other 49 states so I am in no rush to try T911 or any of the other
products that have this warning and their are a bunch of them with this warning. DTH
doesn't have any of these potentially dangerous ingredients and thats why I highly
recommend it.
 
matthias7 said:
1-Androsterone, Advanced Muscle Science sell as a prohormone Invalid Link Removed

A patent surrounding the molecular name shortened to ADT - which is an AI

Dunno. The rest of the stuff seems to be clean-up.
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Dude it's not the same freaking compound. ATD, 1-Andro, T-911, they're all different man. Get your facts straight.
 
Quote "it's a DHT-derivative. "

Irish Cannon said:
Dude it's not the same freaking compound. ATD, 1-Andro, T-911, they're all different man. Get your facts straight.
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Is it this compound Invalid Link Removed ?

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"[0009] DHEA is also metabolized in the body to one of several compounds including, for example, etiocholanolone (5-beta-androstan-3-alpha-ol-17-one), beta etiocholanolone (5-beta-androstan-3-beta-ol-17-one), androsterone (5-alpha-androstan-3-alpha-ol-17-one), epiandrosterone (5-alpha-androstan-3-beta-ol-17-one), 7-keto-DHEA, 7-alpha-hydroxy-DHEA, 7-beta-hydroxy-DHEA, androstenedione, estrone and estradiol. "

In which case its a DHEA derrivative and its name is beta etiocholanolone. DHT is a by-product of test, DHEA is a precursor.

It appears to be stero-isomer of androsterone. So not exactly "not the same freaking compound", quite similar in fact.

Hmmm... you need some primary sources at this point.
 
Irish Cannon said:
T-911 is hormonal in a sense, but it is not a prohormone, it's a DHT-derivative.
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Does it actually raise serum DHT levels?

I'd like to give T-911 a shot but at 53 I don't need higher DHT levels (already high-normal) because of BPH / prostate / hair loss issues.
 
I took my first dose ever yesterday, this is part of my Nolva PCT for an Epi/SD cycle.
I've never taken anything other than support supps and nolva for PCT and was excited to try an actual test booster. The effects were pretty cool- i have never taken Y before so I beleive the slight stim effect I got from t911 was from the Y.. Overall my initial response was an increase in mental focus and I wound up working out 1hour and 20 minutes as apposed to my usual 1 hour.. I am shredded sore right now to.
Hope it continues like this!
 
OldGator said:
Does it actually raise serum DHT levels?

I'd like to give T-911 a shot but at 53 I don't need higher DHT levels (already high-normal) because of BPH / prostate / hair loss issues.
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I'd have to look at bloodwork, but I believe Eric has answered this and said, "No." - The dose is so low it would really have minimal effect if any.
 
munique said:
I read off another forum that LG has changed the formula?
It no longer contains ADT?
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Would this make this product less effective because I am on day 4 and I am not feeling even a tingle. I get more off Maca and Fenugreek than this and in less time.
 
Irish Cannon said:
NO! it is NOT! There is NO ATD in T-911. Why do you guys keep saying ADT? That's either a security company or an abbreviation for Androgen Deprivation Therapy.
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because ADT = Androsterone.
Which is inside T-911.

From the product write-up

The next phase of T-911 is about reducing estrogen and giving you another pathway to both boost testosterone. Androsterone is a natural metabolite in the body that reduces estrogen which increases testosterone and may reduce aromatase (that nasty enzyme that turns your hard earned testosterone into UGLY estrogen). It also is a 5a Reduced androgen, which as a class have suggested to be potent neuro-stimulants. Neuro-stimulants don't get you wired, they make you more alert, aggressive and intense. So, Androsterone suggests that it can reduce aromatase and increase mental intensity.
 
munique said:
I read off another forum that LG has changed the formula?
It no longer contains ADT?
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Formadrol is what was reformulated. - It no longer contains ATD or Trione, but both alpha AND beta androsterone, as well as a SERM complex.

T-911 won't be reformulated for some time. Eric is looking into a new AI.
 
Irish Cannon said:
Formadrol is what was reformulated. - It no longer contains ATD or Trione, but both alpha AND beta androsterone, as well as a SERM complex.

T-911 won't be reformulated for some time. Eric is looking into a new AI.
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I just received my order of LG T-911 from bb.com. The box has a sticker on it saying "Updated Formula" What is 2-phenyl-di-benzyl-benzopyran-4-one? Is this the same thing as Androsterone? I could not find any information on this.

The label on my new box is:

Testosterone Support Complex 150mg
2-phenyl-di-benzyl-benzopyran-4-one
Cyclodextrin
Ellagic Acid
Resveratrol
Yohimbine
Luteolin

The formula listed on bb.com is:

Testosterone Support Complex 150mg *
Androsterone
Cyclodextrin
Ellagic Acid (Proprietary Standardized Extract)
Resveratrol (Porprietary Standardized Extract)
Yohimbine
Luteolin


This is from a thread made yesterday at another forum.
 
munique said:
I just received my order of LG T-911 from bb.com. The box has a sticker on it saying "Updated Formula" What is 2-phenyl-di-benzyl-benzopyran-4-one? Is this the same thing as Androsterone? I could not find any information on this.

The label on my new box is:

Testosterone Support Complex 150mg
2-phenyl-di-benzyl-benzopyran-4-one
Cyclodextrin
Ellagic Acid
Resveratrol
Yohimbine
Luteolin

The formula listed on bb.com is:

Testosterone Support Complex 150mg *
Androsterone
Cyclodextrin
Ellagic Acid (Proprietary Standardized Extract)
Resveratrol (Porprietary Standardized Extract)
Yohimbine
Luteolin


This is from a thread made yesterday at another forum.
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Weird. I was never informed. That must be the new AI Eric was working on. Let us know how it goes.
 
Essay226 said:
I just recieved the one with androsterone great stuff its a mild AI so what, I think it will be fine>:usa1:
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I hear people constantly bicker back and forth about T-911, but you can't argue with the overwhelmingly positive feedback. And as for estrogen control, it may be mild, but I saw some serious drying effects when I was on it.

People can think it's trash all they want, but all that tells me is that they aren't training hard, their diet sucks, or all of the above. It's not as though it's just us reps that love the stuff. I rarely hear a negative review, and when I do, it's never from a well-known board member.
 
On the ADT stuff.... Its a long time since I did organic chemistry (one of my favs. though)..

androsterone = 5-alpha-androstan-3-alpha-ol-17-one
epiandrosterone = 5-alpha-androstan-3-beta-ol-17-one

I think but I'm not sure that T911 was using 5-alpha-androstan-3-beta-ol-17-one.
This isn't ADT but its very close. I can't remember the alpha and beta shift... I don't think its a stereo-isomer I think it is the locatino of the alcohol group on the carbon ring. Even small changes affect enzymic reactions. However it looks to be an AI close to ADT.

"Formadrol = alpha AND beta androsterone" Irish Cannon.

Thanks.

The apparent dramatic shift of T911 is weird. Why fix what is not.. ?
 
just looked at the one I have been dosing. The bottle says Androstan-3-alpha-ol-17-one. This one is doing nothing for me so far.

I have a second bottle which says on the box, Androsterone. I will check the bottle to see the if ingredients are the same tonight when i go home.
 
luclyluciano said:
just looked at the one I have been dosing. The bottle says Androstan-3-alpha-ol-17-one. This one is doing nothing for me so far.

I have a second bottle which says on the box, Androsterone. I will check the bottle to see the if ingredients are the same tonight when i go home.
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I think your one of the first people who say T-911 has done nothing for them.. sorry to hear about that
 
Liftergym33 said:
I think your one of the first people who say T-911 has done nothing for them.. sorry to hear about that
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Both bottles and boxes are the same upon checking, box says androsterone, bottle says what I posted above. Why does the box say one thing and the bottle say another? Are they the same compounds or not?

Day 4, dosed 4 lozenges again and still nothing.
 
luclyluciano said:
Both bottles and boxes are the same upon checking, box says androsterone, bottle says what I posted above. Why does the box say one thing and the bottle say another? Are they the same compounds or not?

Day 4, dosed 4 lozenges again and still nothing.
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your dosing 4 tabs a day and feel no different?
 
Testosterone Support Complex:

Cyclodextrin , Luteolin , Androstan-3-alpha-ol-17-one , Ellagic Acid (Proprietary Standardized Extract), Resveratrol (Proprietary Standardized Extract) , Yohimbine
150mg **



(Nutraplanet)

I'm keen on this product. But it seems to have changed over the course of this thread?

But my family has a hairloss history (my mom's dad and also members on my dad's side).
So i'm thinking I'll also need a DHT blocker.
 
I'll have to check with Eric but as far as I know nothing has changed. Also I have never heard a negative review of this stuff ever. The one in this thread is the first. At 3 per day I felt so damn good it was better than my Epi cycle!
 
Yes it has. I have got it.

Active ingredient .. 2-phenyl-di-denzyl-benzopryan-4-one

You guys as reps now need to tell us what this stuff is. I'm sorry but I'm a bit mithed, this is potent stuff and we should know what it is doing. We don't even know if its an AI.

The products looks good - but can you get your act together please?

Its not simply that the active compound has switched its that you we not really sure what the original compound was. You said DHA derrivative (the acronym could be wrong but its the by-product of test that knocks your hair out), it was in fact a related to DHEA - which is a precursor of test.. which is quite different. In biochemical terms thats a big difference ... opposite ends of the pathway ... (arrgghhh).

Please can we have a definative response on the biochemistry.

Really this company pays good money to sponsor this board... can you get your tech. sales on par with that investment please.... Again we are not just a forum member NOW we are customers - I've just bought it.

Minor stuff
Points 1 and 2 could my not be relevent but just to voice them.

1. My concern with this stuff is that both resveratrol and yohimbine are potent at quantities, yohimbine is very potent. T911 could be relying on this stuff to give its kick. With (at a guess) ellagic acid and cyclodextrin to do the clean up. I don't know what ellagic acid is and can't be bothered to look it up but cyclodextrin is an almost industrial scale anti-oxident. It'll chelate (complex with) all sorts of stuff.

2. My concern with cyclodextrin could potentially knock out cholesterol .. which ain't good for androgen production, viz.
cholesterol -> pregnenolone -> male androgens
. . . . . . . .. . . . |
.............female androgens
 
My bottles say 3-alpha-ol-17-one, yet the box says androsterone. ARe these the same compounds? If the formula has changes as some have suggested then this may be the reason T-911 is doing nothing for me.

Today I will try 2 lozenges preworkout....4 thruout the day. I'm sure nothing will happen since I have felt nothing so far in 4 days. Not even a tingle. Not being negative, I really was wanting this to work for me and was sold on this stuff from all the positive feedback tha's why I bought 2 bottles of T-911 and 2 of Formestane.
 
Weird, they should not have different boxes and bottles. The new ingredient is a stronger anti-estrogen component. It's one of the new anti-estrogens that we have been working on (another new one is going to be launched in the new F-Drol - Black).

I will get to the bottom of it ASAP! Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

Oh and as for the cyclodextrin knocking out cholesterol...are you serious? You think 85mg of cyclodextrin is going to effect cholesterol levels and that could have a cascade effect on your testosterone levels? Seriously, man, this is why pubmed isn't for everyone. Not to be insulting, but that is the most crazy theory I've heard in a long time.
 
For your information I am well represented on PubMed. You read the stuff I write the stuff. So be careful who you are trying to condescend to.

Okay bitching over... it sounds more like a tiff no? Are you sure we haven't met before ;) ;)

I take your point. It might not be a sound hypothesis at all - but we all make mistakes! :) ;)
 
So any idea what the new ingredient is?
When I google it I just get words like "flavanoids", quercetin and phenols..
 
matthias7 said:
For your information I am well represented on PubMed. You read the stuff I write the stuff. So be careful who you are trying to condescend to.

Okay bitching over... it sounds more like a tiff no? Are you sure we haven't met before ;) ;)

I take your point. It might not be a sound hypothesis at all - but we all make mistakes! :) ;)
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No disrespect intended...sorry if it came off like that but you have to admit it was a bit of a stretch...unless someone is a strict vegetarian, it would be pretty tough to think that 85mg of cyclodextrin could lower testosterone levels. We all post things that we haven't thought through completely, I'm certainly guilty of that.
 
LegalGear said:
Weird, they should not have different boxes and bottles. The new ingredient is a stronger anti-estrogen component. It's one of the new anti-estrogens that we have been working on (another new one is going to be launched in the new F-Drol - Black).

F-Drol?? Do you mean formadrol or a new prohormone product??
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