50 mmv2 great for cutting imo eq plex is too expensive to be run properly or for the length of time you need it when I run real eq i like it for min 12 weeks. When 1,4ad was avail in bulk i loved it but you need alot. if you want non-methyl I would use cel's xtren along with mmv2 i've used mmv2 and a tren product with great success