When to take milk-thistle????

lift or die

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I am on a cycle of Spawn and was told I should be taking milk-thistle to protect my liver, but when should I take it and how often should I???
 
take it whenever, does not matter. i do not know the exact amount you should be taking, a couple hundred is what i take while on, 200 to 300. i also suggest an over-all product like AI's cycle support, it has all kins of good stuff in there for a decent price
 
milk thistle can interfere w/ absorbtion, for my SD cycle I take it at night at least 5-6hours after my last dose of SD. Milk thistle can be active for up to 6 hours as well so you don't want to take it within 6 hours (before or after) taking the spawn.
 
Milk-thistle is considered to be fat-soluble, and needs dietary fat to break down and absorb properly. It's not terribly dangerous to do occasionally, much like vitamin A or E, but you shouldn't make a habit out of it. Long-term improper absorbtion can have negative health effects.
 
TURUGBY said:
milk thistle can interfere w/ absorbtion, for my SD cycle I take it at night at least 5-6hours after my last dose of SD. Milk thistle can be active for up to 6 hours as well so you don't want to take it within 6 hours (before or after) taking the spawn.
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the funny thing about MT is, the human studies are inconclusive on it's claims to be helpful to the body. read up on it guys, the data from many sources say things like "it may help". like a lot of the herbs that are out there....."they may help", it's not a given that the money you are spending on these herbs are doing anything for you other than a placibo. now minerals and vitamins are a different story, there is enough evidence to support their use. if anyone can find a concert study that says MT "hands down" helps your liver, please post it here....i have never seen one. not saying they don't exist, just never seen one
 
lennoxchi said:
the funny thing about MT is, the human studies are inconclusive on it's claims to be helpful to the body. read up on it guys, the data from many sources say things like "it may help". like a lot of the herbs that are out there....."they may help", it's not a given that the money you are spending on these herbs are doing anything for you other than a placibo. now minerals and vitamins are a different story, there is enough evidence to support their use. if anyone can find a concert study that says MT "hands down" helps your liver, please post it here....i have never seen one. not saying they don't exist, just never seen one
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You're right mate, I'm unconvinced about it as a liver protectant so I won't be using it for my next cycle, Liv 52 and SAMe instead.
 
TURUGBY said:
milk thistle can interfere w/ absorbtion, for my SD cycle I take it at night at least 5-6hours after my last dose of SD. Milk thistle can be active for up to 6 hours as well so you don't want to take it within 6 hours (before or after) taking the spawn.
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what happens if you take it within those 6 hours?
 
I' am not such a fan of Milk T, my personal fav. have been: Tylers liver detox, Liv-52 and Essentiale L.
 
lift or die said:
khiladi said:
I' am not such a fan of Milk T, my personal fav. have been: Tylers liver detox, Liv-52 and Essentiale L.[/QUO

Do these clean out the body after a cycle?
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I try to combine/mix them up while On-cycle esp. if i use orals, for post cycle i use them for clomid, nolva etc. The Liv-52 i run solo at a lower dose as a staple and add in Dandelion if going out and intend to drink alcohol. Also, for cleaning out I get some good ol green tea throw in honey, prepare it at night and sip it throughout the next day. As well as, neem from himalaya, a pure herb i use for detox.
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I'm curious as to how Liv. 52 is any more proven than Milk Thistle?

I, personally, have had blood tests administered to ensure a previous cycle went as planned. I cannot say with all certainty that the Milk Thistle was directly responsible for keeping my liver enzymes in check, but I'd rather not find out how the cycle would have gone without any hepatoprotectants....

SAMe is probably the best hepatoprotectant you can buy today, but it's extremely high price turns most people away from it. Which is why milk thistle is a much more popular choice....

If you really want to find out for yourself, run a harsh methyl cycle without any hepatoprotectants and note your gains and increase in liver enzyme activity. Run that same cycle again 8mos-1yr later with milk thistle. You tell me if the potentially minimal differences in gains and significant difference in liver damage warrants the use of a hepatoprotectant such as milk thistle or not....
 
khiladi said:
I try to combine/mix them up while On-cycle esp. if i use orals, for post cycle i use them for clomid, nolva etc. The Liv-52 i run solo at a lower dose as a staple and add in Dandelion if going out and intend to drink alcohol. Also, for cleaning out I get some good ol green tea throw in honey, prepare it at night and sip it throughout the next day. As well as, neem from himalaya, a pure herb i use for detox.
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AWESOME advice by the way! :slap:
 
ShiftyCapone said:
AWESOME advice by the way! :slap:
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Thanks bro! personally i have used Liv-52 with heavy orals M1T, Aboms and SDrol combined with injects and have consumed alcohol(not sane, i know) and have had blood work results came up with slightly higher liver values than normal, which returned to the normal range later. SamE is an excellent product, however, as you stated, cost issues make me shy off for prolonged use, i get the liv-52 DS (double dose) Essentiale-l and other goodies ;) overseas where they are made for a very very low price. Also not to knock off Milk Thistle completely, its one of the ingredients in Tyler Detox Factors. I also think thioctic acid is beneficial.
 
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